How come in the Jordan era they had better TV ratings then now?

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Nah son.

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Why hasn't more channels, the internet, global warming, or whatever random excuse people come up with affected the Superbowl's ratings (which sets new highs every year) like it affected the NBA finals ratings after Jordan's retirement(s)?[/QUOTE]

Exactly. :oldlol: @ people trying to downplay just how huge Jordan was. The phenomenon was like nothing seen before or since, and not Shaq, Kobe whoever could come close to duplicating it. Jordan was that much of an icon.

And Rodman and Kukoc? They weren't even on the first 3-peat team. Rodman got his shine because he played with Jordan. If he did those same antics on the Raptors, no one would've cared anywhere near as much.

^In 1993 NBA Finals for the first time beat the world series with a 17.9 average rating . That was chicago-phoenix, granted charles barkley and phoenix suns in those days had a big following too, but everytime chicago reached the finals in those days, tv execs were jumping up and down because chicago bulls were just a national team.

I feel the bulls team with jordan-pippen-grant-paxon-cartwright and phil jackson was bigger and more popular than any team ever.

Also NBC sports did a greater job of producing the nba finals than abc for sure.

[QUOTE=StarJordan]^In 1993 NBA Finals for the first time beat the world series with a 17.9 average rating . That was chicago-phoenix, granted charles barkley and phoenix suns in those days had a big following too, but everytime chicago reached the finals in those days, tv execs were jumping up and down because chicago bulls were just a national team.

I feel the bulls team with jordan-pippen-grant-paxon-cartwright and phil jackson was bigger and more popular than any team ever.

Also NBC sports did a greater job of producing the nba finals than abc for sure.[/QUOTE]

NBC was awesome. The Intro song was epic.

[QUOTE=DonDadda59]Nah son.

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Why hasn't more channels, the internet, global warming, or whatever random excuse people come up with affected the Superbowl's ratings (which sets new highs every year) like it affected the NBA finals ratings after Jordan's retirement(s)?[/QUOTE]
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So true. In my office, I was one of the few people that gave two sh!ts about the NBA this year. Me and one other guy that I work with were huge NBA fans. Outside of that, more people were into what was happening in baseball.

In prime Jordan's era? Seemingly everyone was watching. It was a foregone conclusion.

Kids just don't understand.

About watching the games online, why would anyone do that when it's on national TV?

Even so, the way TV rating are collected, it would still count whether someone saw it online or on ABC. And that will be the case until they start building TVs that send information about what a person is watching.

Bottom line, the rating were great this year and the NBA is popular. The reason why they were higher during Jordan's time is simply Jordan. The years he retired the rating for the NBA finals went down, and when he came back they went up again. So there's the obvious answer, Jordan was very popular.

Edit: Also are there really more cable channels now than there were back in the 90s? I don't find that to be the case. It's like the same old channels, perhaps some new channels like the Oprah channel that I think used to be the Oxygen channel, so not a really new channel. And other new channels like the Fast Food Network, channels that won't affect the NBA ratings one bit.

[QUOTE=jstern]About watching the games online, why would anyone do that when it's on national TV?

Even so, the way TV rating are collected, it would still count whether someone saw it online or on ABC. And that will be the case until they start building TVs that send information about what a person is watching.

Bottom line, the rating were great this year and the NBA is popular. The reason why they were higher during Jordan's time is simply Jordan. The years he retired the rating for the NBA finals went down, and when he came back they went up again. So there's the obvious answer, Jordan was very popular.[/QUOTE]
People loved watching Jordan play. Hell, he made it his personal mission to destroy my franchise and I still couldn't help but to enjoy watching him play the game. It was beautiful.

No one since has approached it.

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]:oldlol:

So true. In my office, I was one of the few people that gave two sh!ts about the NBA this year. Me and one other guy that I work with were huge NBA fans. Outside of that, more people were into what was happening in baseball.

In prime Jordan's era? Seemingly everyone was watching. It was a foregone conclusion.

Kids just don't understand.[/QUOTE]


Why aren't most people interested in the NBA now?

Also, in general why isn't the NBA as popular as the NFL? Would you say the reason is racial?

The rise of Michael Jordan in the 80s to the top of the mountain in 91 and everyone trying to take turns to knock the king of the basketball world after that was ratings bonanza.

[QUOTE=Heilige]Why aren't most people interested in the NBA now?

Also, in general why isn't the NBA as popular as the NFL? [B]Would you say the reason is racial?[/B][/QUOTE]

There's still a lot of Black NFL Players, so a big fat "nope" to this question. The NBA shot themselves in the foot by taking players straight out of High school, and basically letting the players dictate what the League would be, and not the other way around like it always was.

The early 2000's "Thug-Weed Head" image, with players doing what the f@ck they wanna do, simply rubbed people the wrong way, both Black [I]and[/I] White. Don't nobody wanna see no mumblin' ass, ignorant ass, can't even pronounce words right N!gga after a game giving a press conference, especially when his whole vibe is negative.

Stern realized his f@ck up of letting things go too far, which culminated in the "Palace Brawl" of 05, and made SURE to not let that sh!t happen again. Now ratings are slowly making their return to somewhat decent levels, thanks to players who, for the most part, got their heads on straight.

[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]People loved watching Jordan play. Hell, he made it his personal mission to destroy my franchise and I still couldn't help but to enjoy watching him play the game. It was beautiful.

No one since has approached it.[/QUOTE]

Jordan was an artist on the floor and people loved to see him go to work. If he played in his prime now, everyone would put down what they were doing and watch.

The two guys I think are above all others in terms of artistry were Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson**. On any given night, you may see the greatest play you've ever seen in your life. You HAD to watch or you felt like you would miss something.

**The ratings for the Showtime Lakers would have been much greater had they played 10 years later.

[QUOTE=Nevaeh]The early 2000's "Thug-Weed Head" image, with players doing what the f@ck they wanna do, simply rubbed people the wrong way, both Black [I]and[/I] White.[/QUOTE]


Sounds not too different from the "One-On-One Streetballer/Coke-Head" image that was prevalent in the late 1970s-early '80s NBA.

[QUOTE=Heilige]Why aren't most people interested in the NBA now?

Also, in general why isn't the NBA as popular as the NFL? Would you say the reason is racial?[/QUOTE]

Why do people do this with basketball but not with baseball? Baseball ratings are way down from when McGwire/Sosa/Bonds were playing.

No league can compare to the NFL right now. Basketball is in pretty good shape as the #2 sport. I can remember the days when playoff games were delayed until midnight.

It's like people always try to find the negatives when it involves the NBA instead of talking about the fact that its actually in as good a shape as its been since Jordan left.

[QUOTE=Da_Realist]Jordan was an artist on the floor and people loved to see him go to work. If he played in his prime now, everyone would put down what they were doing and watch.

The two guys I think are above all others in terms of artistry were Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson**. On any given night, you may see the greatest play you've ever seen in your life. You HAD to watch or you felt like you would miss something.

**The ratings for the Showtime Lakers would have been much greater had they played 10 years later.[/QUOTE]

Another thing about MJ... He was like a fine cigar whose taste changes over the course of the smoke. He started off as an exciting slasher then morphed into having one of the great mid-range games then changed into one of the great perimeter post players all while doing everything else at elite or near elite levels. In terms of artistry, he kept our attention throughout his run in Chicago.

People are so idiotic, completely giving Jordan credit for the NBA's popularity like he wasn't following up on the NBA's explosion created by Magic and Larry.:facepalm

1. Jordan himself
2. The basketball was better--better overall fundamentals (at least during the first half of the '90s), a lot more physicality, the league didn't have ESPN-guided panic attacks every time a fight broke out, more and fiercer rivalries, a bumper-crop of talented, skilled, promotable stars on just about every team as opposed to a few superstar conglomerations in Miami, New York, Boston, Oklahoma City, and both Los Angeles teams and not much for the casual fan to take notice of elsewhere.