who thinks Kobe is still the best player on the Lakers?

[QUOTE=NumberSix]You must put a lot of stock in inefficient scoring.[/QUOTE]

Scored 30 ppg in the playoffs with a 44fg%.

RWB 23,5 43%
Carmelo 28 42%
Harden 16 44%

Kevin Love haven't even played a playoff game in what 4 years?

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Yes, but lazy Shaq is still better than hard working Dwight.[/QUOTE]

Didn't say otherwise.

[QUOTE=LamarOdom]Scored 30 ppg in the playoffs with a 44fg%.

[B]RWB 23,5 43%
Carmelo 28 42%
Harden 16 44%[/B]

Kevin Love haven't even played a playoff game in what 4 years?[/QUOTE]
Those player's do other things though.

At this stage in his career, Kobe is basically Melo without the rebounding and less post game.

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Those player's do other things though.

At this stage in his career, Kobe is basically Melo without the rebounding and less post game.[/QUOTE]
Melo isn't as good of a passer/playmaker and only averaged .7 more boards. Try again! Lol at "doing other things" as a reason for Melo being better.

I don't like using the words best or better because people all have their own idea of what that means.

Kobe's a better leader, he has more experience, a more complete arsenal of offensive moves. He'll get you between 25 and 30 points a night, 5 assist, 5 rebounds. Insane heart, desire and work ethic. Warrior, he's durable and will play through almost any injury. He still plays pretty good defense too.

Howard at this stage of his career is more dominant because of his size and athleticism. Huge difference maker on defense. Great rebounder. He'll get you an efficient 20 points per game. Doesn't get a lot of assists. Not a great leader. Pretty durable until recently.

Overall, Kobe is better on the offensive side of the ball and Dwight is better on defense. I'm glad LA has them both so I really don't have to choose one or the other. lol. If they win it all lets see who is finals MVP before declaring Howard better than Kobe.

[QUOTE=chazzy]Melo isn't as good of a passer/playmaker and [B]only averaged .7 more boards[/B]. Try again! Lol at "doing other things" as a reason for Melo being better.[/QUOTE]
Melo averaged 4 more rebounds in the 2011-2012 season, not .7.

Timberwolves are the team I follow the most in the league and Kevin Love is in no way or form near Kobe or any other Superstar.

He's a 15/13/5 guy that plays 0 defense in a functional team that wants to compete for a championship.

They need to start posting Pek more to end this madness.

Also lol at Melo has more of a post game than Kobe and lol at doing other things....what are you smoking?

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Melo averaged 4 more rebounds in the 2011-2012 season, not .7.[/QUOTE]
Melo - 6.3

Kobe - 5.4

.9 actually

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Those player's do other things though.

At this stage in his career, Kobe is basically Melo without the rebounding and less post game.[/QUOTE]

Now you're just reaching, Kobe can still play good D, rebound 5 a night give you 5 assists a night.

With Nash in town he'll finally get to play SG and not a combo guard.

My guess is that this year he'll average 25/5/4 on around 45-6% shooting, but hey, going in to his 17th season and still being arguable for top five just shows how great Kobe is.

While players like AI, VC, TMac, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen who all came in the same year or after him isn't even all stars anymore (except PP) he is still one of the best.

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Melo averaged 4 more rebounds in the 2011-2012 season, not .7.[/QUOTE]

If DWade ain't better than Kobe, then neither is Melo.

1) Bron
2) Durant
3) Dwight
4) Chris Paul
5) Kobe

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Melo averaged 4 more rebounds in the 2011-2012 season, not .7.[/QUOTE]

:facepalm

[QUOTE=chazzy]Melo - 6.3

Kobe - 5.4

.9 actually[/QUOTE]
Melo - 8.2

Kobe - 4.8


Where are you getting your numbers from?

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Melo - 8.2

Kobe - 4.8


Where are you getting your numbers from?[/QUOTE]
You're looking at his 5 game average from the Heat series, I listed the the 2012 season numbers

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]If DWade ain't better than Kobe, then neither is Melo.

1) Bron
2) Durant
3) Dwight
4) Chris Paul
5) Kobe[/QUOTE]

That's my list as well

[QUOTE=NumberSix]Melo - 8.2

Kobe - 4.8


Where are you getting your numbers from?[/QUOTE]

His 8,2 was in the playoffs (5 games) in 41 minutes a game

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]If DWade ain't better than Kobe, then neither is Melo.

1) Bron
2) Durant
3) Dwight
4) Chris Paul
5) Kobe[/QUOTE]

This is the only list that right, although i'd put kobe over cp3, depending on the day,

And NumberSix no one takes you seriously, since you're known as one of the biggest kobe haters on here anyway.