Re: ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]And just think, Ben Wallace measured over 2 inches shorter than Russell w/o shoes and weighed [I]over 100lbs less than Shaq[/I] - stop reaching Deuce, cherry picking pics isn't going to change the fact that Wilt's peak is the Everest of NBA peaks. Your going on ignore list if you keep sidebarring my thread. I don't feel like hearing your bullshit, once people go on my ignore list they never get removed.[/QUOTE]
You think Wilt could just do whatever he wanted and get any post position he wants against this guy?
[IMG]http://www.gq.com/images/slideshows/mens/standalone/gq/feature/1106/athletes/00016f.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://detroitsportsnation.com/pistons24seconds/files/2012/01/Ben-Wallace11.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.oddjack.com/wp-content/ben_wallace2.jpg[/IMG]
Re: ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain
[QUOTE=PHILA]He went toe to toe with Wilt Chamberlain, who had unprecedented physical abilities. :no:
[B]Height:[/B] 7-1
[B]Weight:[/B] Varied from 265 to 320 lbs
[B]Vertical:[/B] 40+ inches
[B]Wingspan:[/B] 7-8
[B]Standing Reach:[/B] 9-6
[B]Hand Length:[/B] 9.5"
[B]Hand Spread:[/B] 11.5"
[B]Bench Press:[/B] 500 lbs
[B]Deadlift:[/B] 625 lbs
[B]Clean & Jerk:[/B] 435 lbs
[B]Shoulder Press:[/B] 400 lbs
[B]40 yard dash:[/B] 4.6 seconds (Barefoot & wearing a suit/tie)
[B]440 yard dash:[/B] 49.0 seconds
[B]880 yard dash:[/B] 1:58.3
[B]High Jump:[/B] 6-6
[B]Broad Jump:[/B] 22 feet
[B]Shot Put:[/B] 53 feet, 4 inches[/QUOTE]
Correction on high jump 6-6.75 and broad jump 22 feet 8 inches
also 46 feet 2.5 inch triple jump
shot put / 880 / 440 is likely not 100% solid figures - (it isn't verifiable as he didn't compete in them in the NCAA)
And Bill Russell had a 6-9.25 high jump and a 23 foot broad jump. :D
Re: ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain
[QUOTE=PHILA]
[B]Vertical:[/B] 40+ inches
[B]Bench Press:[/B] 500 lbs
[B]Deadlift:[/B] 625 lbs
[B]Clean & Jerk:[/B] 435 lbs
[B]Shoulder Press:[/B] 400 lbs
[/QUOTE]
:roll:
Re: ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain
[quote]high jump 6-6.75 and broad jump 22 feet 8 inches
also 46 feet 2.5 inch triple jump
And Bill Russell had a 6-9.25 high jump and a 23 foot broad jump. [/quote]
:applause:
Re: ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain
[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]You think Wilt could just do whatever he wanted and get any post position he wants against this guy?
[IMG]http://www.gq.com/images/slideshows/mens/standalone/gq/feature/1106/athletes/00016f.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://detroitsportsnation.com/pistons24seconds/files/2012/01/Ben-Wallace11.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.oddjack.com/wp-content/ben_wallace2.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Look at a picture of Lakers Wilt. Then add steroids and modern fitness training.
He'd eat Ben Wallace for lunch.
Re: ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain
[quote=Deuce Bigalow]:roll:[/quote]
As a skinny rookie in '59, Chamberlain could clean & jerk 265 lbs & military press 210 lbs. By the mid 60's those numbers increased to 435 lbs & 400 lbs. According to esteemed author Gary M. Pomerantz in Wilt, 1962: The Night of 100 Points And the Dawn of a New Era, Chamberlain could deadlift 625 lbs. Today his playing weight would likely be around 315-320 lbs, which was not as suited for the up & down style of the era. Remember he did report to camp 315.
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[URL="http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=CqxIAAAAIBAJ&sjid=xwANAAAAIBAJ&pg=3715,469887&dq"]Meriden Journal - Sep 6, 1963[/URL]
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[I]Sports Illustrated - October 26, 1959
Consider the following: he has run the quarter mile in 49 seconds flat, bettered 6 feet 7 in the high jump, put the shot 51 feet, can lift 265 pounds in the clean-and-jerk and 210 in the military press. For none of these feats did Chamberlain prepare himself through normal training; they were casual, offhand achievements by an athlete who has always devoted his free time and effort to basketball.[/I]
[I]The Miami News - Nov 7, 1962
'He can clean and jerk a 375-lb. weight, run the quarter mile in 47s, and high-jump over 6-11.'[/I]
[I]November 29, 1965
NEW YORK (NEA)
Re: ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain
This is what a real 40+" vertical looks like
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Re: ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain
[QUOTE]Don't see a difference[/QUOTE]
So your just going to bail on the videos you posted ? Okay.
Re: ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain
[QUOTE=M.Bustly15A5RU8]Look at a picture of Lakers Wilt. Then add steroids and modern fitness training.
He'd eat Ben Wallace for lunch.[/QUOTE]
And keep in mind Wallace - no matter how buff - is 6-7 listed 240 (prob topped out closer to 255, 260)
Wilt is 7'1 w/o shoes and when he lifted with Arnie weighed 327. Sh*t, even as a scrawny rookie Wilt weighed 258.
Re: ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain
Reenactment of Wilt's 100 point game
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFxzqt8Gr6I&feature=related[/url]
Re: ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain
[QUOTE]Wilt is 7'1 w/o shoes and when he lifted with Arnie weighed 327.[/QUOTE]
Wait, he weight trained with Arnold ?
Re: ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Wait, he weight trained with Arnold ?[/QUOTE]
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Re: ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain
[QUOTE=Legends66NBA7]Wait, he weight trained with Arnold ?[/QUOTE]
Not sure if "with" he actually might have just lifted on his own for most of the period he was working with him for a movie (though friends of Wilt's do suggest he lifted in the gym with Arnie at least once) - I just know that he weight trained pretty much his whole life but was particularly active for / during the production of Conan the Destroyer - and at the time he was weighed at a very trim looking 327lbs
[IMG]http://www.thisisnotporn.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Wilt-Chamberlain-Arnold-Schwarzenegger-and-Andre-the-Giant.jpg[/IMG]
Re: ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain
[QUOTE]Wait, he weight trained with Arnold ?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://articles.philly.com/2012-01-10/sports/30612013_1_elevator-sixers-new-appreciation[/url]
[I]January 10, 2012
I will be 55 in a few months, the age he was when I interviewed him. This gives me a whole new appreciation for that interview. It is natural at this age to reflect on one's decisions in life, to contemplate making the most of the good years that remain.
Wilt seemed in far better shape then than I am now, absolutely no gut, sculpted in his tight T-shirt. The world never fully appreciated what an athlete he was. During the filming of Conan the Destroyer, with Arnold Schwarzenegger, [B][SIZE="4"]Wilt said he put five 50-pound weights on his rib cage, elevated his feet on an incline board, and did 30 sit-ups.
"Arnold couldn't believe it," Wilt said. "He wouldn't even try it."
[/SIZE][/B]
When I met him that day in 1991, the Sixers had just retired his number, and he told me that was "the most moving day of my life." So many fans thanking him. "I should have been the one saying 'Thank you,' " he said.
Wilt died in 1999.
He would have loved the video homage to him the Sixers showed Monday night and will again many times this season to reconnect the team with its legacy.
The man was undeniably Philadelphia's greatest homegrown athlete. He was large, and he was larger than life. And thanks, Wilt, for sharing one day with me.[/I]
Re: ISH: Where MJ and Shaq allegedly had a higher peak than Wilt Chamberlain
[QUOTE=LosBulls]You do realize High Jumping records from back then don't come close to what they are now?[/QUOTE]
You do realize the technique changed don't you? (The fosbury flop adds a foot of potential height).