Obama sets a food stamp record...AGAIN.

To reply to a neg:[QUOTE]He's not feeding hungry people, tax payers are paying for people who may not work as hard to eat. Make your own money buy your own food. -Bano114[/QUOTE]Taxes pay for a lot of things that an individual tax payer may not like. Trillions of dollars, for example, have gone into Iraq and I know that if I was asked for fifty dollars a week (or whatever my contribution will end up being) to spend on Iraq I wouldn't have given it up. So when I hear Republicans whine about a program that is only 2% of the budget and is actually doing some good? Please. I will never apologize for supporting the feeding of the hungry, many of whom are single mothers, the elderly, and children.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green]To reply to a neg:Taxes pay for a lot of things that an individual tax payer may not like. Trillions of dollars, for example, have gone into Iraq and I know that if I was asked for fifty dollars a week (or whatever my contribution will end up being) to spend on Iraq I wouldn't have given it up. So when I hear Republicans whine about a program that is only 2% of the budget and is actually doing some good? Please. I will never apologize for supporting the feeding of the hungry, many of whom are single mothers, the elderly, and children.[/QUOTE]


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[QUOTE=boozehound]Its well documented that walmart encourages their employees to get on public assistance, right down to corporate memos in the break room.

Also, I was on food stamps once. As a graduate student with a wife and small child, it was of invaluable help at that time of my life. Honestly, how old are you? You seem to have a very sheltered worldview and limited life experience.[/QUOTE]

Great life choice dude. Not being able to support a kid and having one anyways. You put yourself in that hole.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green]To reply to a neg:Taxes pay for a lot of things that an individual tax payer may not like. Trillions of dollars, for example, have gone into Iraq and I know that if I was asked for fifty dollars a week (or whatever my contribution will end up being) to spend on Iraq I wouldn't have given it up. So when I hear Republicans whine about a program that is only 2% of the budget and is actually doing some good? Please. I will never apologize for supporting the feeding of the hungry, many of whom are single mothers, the elderly, and children.[/QUOTE]

I get what you're saying but it doesn't mean people have to agree with rewarding people's mistakes. No matter how big or little.

[QUOTE=Balla_Status]Great life choice dude. Not being able to support a kid and having one anyways. You put yourself in that hole.[/QUOTE]
Yep, and I was teaching idiots like you at your fabulous alma matter. But the lowballing of teachers and college instructors is another matter. I have never encountered such a poorly educated and oblivious student body. Have fun picking up chicks in Farmington. Not everyone is born with a silver spoon in your life, as you obviously were in your shitty Dallas suburbs. No wonder you have such a pathetic and money dominated view of life (IK IK you lived in PNG for a year!). Having to ask for help takes a lot of courage, but guess what? everyone needs a little help at some point in their life.

[QUOTE=boozehound]Yep, and I was teaching idiots like you at your fabulous alma matter. But the lowballing of teachers and college instructors is another matter. I have never encountered such a poorly educated and oblivious student body. Have fun picking up chicks in Farmington. Not everyone is born with a silver spoon in your life, as you obviously were in your shitty Dallas suburbs. No wonder you have such a pathetic and money dominated view of life (IK IK you lived in PNG for a year!). Having to ask for help takes a lot of courage, but guess what? everyone needs a little help at some point in their life.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Balla_Status]I get what you're saying but it doesn't mean people have to agree with rewarding people's mistakes. No matter how big or little.[/QUOTE]
If you don't care about the less fortunate there's nothing to tell you because that's just your values. But the way I see things if we're going to have a government that collects money from the general population and spends it on projects that are supposed to be for the greater good then we should be feeding the hungry. To people like me, letting children go hungry is wrong, letting the elderly go hungry is wrong, and if yes, a few able-bodied adults get fed in the process of getting food to their kids that's an acceptable side-effect. Especially seeing as if you look at the budget programs like food stamps are not what's driving the debt.

[QUOTE=boozehound]Yep, and I was teaching idiots like you at your fabulous alma matter. But the lowballing of teachers and college instructors is another matter. I have never encountered such a poorly educated and oblivious student body. Have fun picking up chicks in Farmington. Not everyone is born with a silver spoon in your life, as you obviously were in your shitty Dallas suburbs. No wonder you have such a pathetic and money dominated view of life (IK IK you lived in PNG for a year!). Having to ask for help takes a lot of courage, but guess what? everyone needs a little help at some point in their life.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=boozehound]Yep, and I was teaching idiots like you at your fabulous alma matter. But the lowballing of teachers and college instructors is another matter. I have never encountered such a poorly educated and oblivious student body. Have fun picking up chicks in Farmington. Not everyone is born with a silver spoon in your life, as you obviously were in your shitty Dallas suburbs. No wonder you have such a pathetic and money dominated view of life (IK IK you lived in PNG for a year!). Having to ask for help takes a lot of courage, but guess what? everyone needs a little help at some point in their life.[/QUOTE]

No idea what any of that has to do with having the responsibility to govern oneself.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green]If you don't care about the less fortunate there's nothing to tell you because that's just your values. But the way I see things if we're going to have a government that collects money from the general population and spends it on projects that are supposed to be for the greater good then we should be feeding the hungry. To people like me, letting children go hungry is wrong, letting the elderly go hungry is wrong, and if yes, a few able-bodied adults get fed in the process of getting food to their kids that's an acceptable side-effect. Especially seeing as if you look at the budget programs like food stamps are not what's driving the debt.[/QUOTE]

That's not what I said. I just believe that's the majority of people's issues with these systems are people taking advantage of it. And being forced to pay for it. And are people making decisions that are putting themselves in these positions?

Obama didn't dig this hole.

[QUOTE=Balla_Status]That's not what I said. I just believe that's the majority of people's issues with these systems are people taking advantage of it. And being forced to pay for it. And are people making decisions that are putting themselves in these positions?[/QUOTE]

im being forced to pay for the tax breaks that boost the profits for your companies like your employer. im being forced to pay for the war that secures resources that will boost the profits for your industry.

i would bet if you broke down the numbers, YOU receive more $$ in govt handouts than the average poor/lazy person. also, i would much rather pay for food for poor people, instead of continuing to have my tax money funneled into the pockets of shitheads like you.

if we are going to talk about wasteful spending, lets focus on the right areas

[QUOTE=Balla_Status]No idea what any of that has to do with having the responsibility to govern oneself.[/QUOTE]
yet another failure of your sub-par, less than well-rounded education. Otherwise you have read important social theorists, who are the fathers of modern democracy, and realize the social contract is the only thing that truly makes us human. Hell, even dumb animals like chimps care for the weaker members of their troupe. Meanwhile, we have the largest income disparity in the modern age (significantly higher than any other industrialized country) and an incredibly large portion of our society deals with daily food insecurity despite these social safety nets. [URL="http://www.nokidhungry.org/problem/overview"]http://www.nokidhungry.org/problem/overview[/URL]

[QUOTE=Balla_Status]That's not what I said. I just believe that's the majority of people's issues with these systems are people taking advantage of it. And being forced to pay for it. And are people making decisions that are putting themselves in these positions?[/QUOTE]
Welfare fraud is probably going to be a reality no matter what you do. A father whose kids are AFDC can still put up an ad on craigslist and get moving gigs, paid to paint under the table, etc. I believe in the highest possible standards of financial screening to limit this kind of abuse but you don't kill these programs just because some of the people on them are cheating.

Yes, people make life decisions that lead them to hard times. That doesn't mean their children should suffer for their mistakes, and depending on the decision that led them to tough times a lot of them don't deserve to suffer either.

[QUOTE=Nanners]im being forced to pay for the tax breaks that boost the profits for your companies like your employer. im being forced to pay for the war that secures resources that will boost the profits for your industry.

i would bet if you broke down the numbers, YOU receive more $$ in govt handouts than the average poor/lazy person. also, i would much rather pay for food for poor people, instead of continuing to have my tax money funneled into the pockets of shitheads like you.

if we are going to talk about wasteful spending, lets focus on the right areas[/QUOTE]

Explain to me how you "pay" for a companies REDUCTION in the amount of taxes they pay to the government. You're not paying [COLOR="Black"]sh[/COLOR]it. Tax break =/= subsidy.