[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]- Jordan stans should stay far away from this thread.....unless you want to get powned..:D :pimp:[/QUOTE]
Shut up baby d1ck
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[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]- Jordan stans should stay far away from this thread.....unless you want to get powned..:D :pimp:[/QUOTE]
Shut up baby d1ck
[QUOTE=ispin69]Love the kobestans trying to turn this into a positive. It would make sense IF Kobe was the all time scoring leader with the most points but no he isn't.
Kareem Abdul-jabbar 38,387 points 20 years
Karl Malone 36,928 points 19 years
Michael Jordan 32,292 points 15 years
Wilt Chamberlain 31,419 points 14 years
*Kobe Bryant 30,016 points 17 years
Shaquille O’Neal 28,596 points 19 years
Kobe has probably two years left in him? Even Jordan only played for 15 years while Kobe will be close to 20 years. It's not just about attempts. It's about HIGH PERCENTAGE SHOTS. That is why these scoring leaders scored more points while missing less.[/QUOTE]
Kobe's 17th season isn't over with, so that number is a little misleading, it will be over 31,000 by the end of the year.
And 3/4 of the guys you listed were big men, of course their going to take better shots and shoot a higher percantage than a guard
If you knew anything about basketball you'd have realized that :facepalm
Kobrick............:applause: :bowdown:
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]Kobe's 17th season isn't over with, so that number is a little misleading, it will be over 31,000 by the end of the year.[/QUOTE]
It will be closer to 32,000. He already has 30,510 with 48 games left. He will pass Wilt soon for 4th all-time.
Wilt- 31419
Kobe- 30510
909 points away.
With a 30 ppg average = 31 games
[QUOTE=ispin69]Love the kobestans trying to turn this into a positive. It would make sense IF Kobe was the all time scoring leader with the most points but no he isn't.
Kareem Abdul-jabbar 38,387 points 20 years
Karl Malone 36,928 points 19 years
Michael Jordan 32,292 points 15 years
Wilt Chamberlain 31,419 points 14 years
*Kobe Bryant 30,016 points 17 years
Shaquille O’Neal 28,596 points 19 years
Kobe might pass Wilt but I doubt he will pass Jordan. Kobe has probably two years left in him? Even Jordan only played for 15 years while Kobe will be close to 20 years. It's not just about attempts. It's about HIGH PERCENTAGE SHOTS. That is why these scoring leaders scored more points while missing less.[/QUOTE]
- actually Kobe will break the alltime scoring record in 3 more seasons...( passing MJ next season)..18 seasons vs 15 seasons???....in context MJ did it in 3 less seasons.....but Kobe also played less minutes his first 2 years
- and "HIGH PERCENTAGE" is a moot point
This is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during MJ's era(1985-1998).
Michael Jordan - 6 times
Chris Mullen - 6 times
Adrian Dantley - 4 times
Kiki Vandewedge - 4 times
Reggie Miller - 3 times
James Worthy - 3 times
Alex English - 3 times
Dale Ellis - 3 times
Magic Johnson - 2 times
Penny Hardaway - 2 times
Kevin Johnson - 2 times
Clyde Drexler - 2 times
Cedric Ceballos - 2 times
Mark Aguirre - 2 times
Gary Payton - once
Byron Scott - once
Rolando Blackman - once
Walter Davis - once
Jeff Hornacek - once
Otis Birdsong - once
Jeff Malone - once
George Gervin - once
Drazen Petrovic - once
Reggie Lewis - once
Derek Smith - once
Scottie Pippen - once
And here is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during the post-Lockout era(2000-2010).
Lebron James - once
Chris Paul - once
Tony Parker - once
Monta Ellis - once
Shawn Marion - once
So in MJ's era it was done 56 times by 26 different players.
from 2000- 2010 it has been done only 5 times by 5 different players....a totally different era ..especially for perimeter players.
[QUOTE=ispin69]Love the kobestans trying to turn this into a positive. It would make sense IF Kobe was the all time scoring leader with the most points but no he isn't.
Kareem Abdul-jabbar 38,387 points 20 years
Karl Malone 36,928 points 19 years
Michael Jordan 32,292 points 15 years
Wilt Chamberlain 31,419 points 14 years
*Kobe Bryant 30,016 points 17 years
Shaquille O
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]Kobe's 17th season isn't over with, so that number is a little misleading, it will be over 31,000 by the end of the year.
And 3/4 of the guys you listed were big men, of course their going to take better shots and shoot a higher percantage than a guard
If you knew anything about basketball you'd have realized that :facepalm[/QUOTE]
Yes tell me why Jordan a GUARD doesn't have the highest missed shots right now. Currently he has scored more than Kobe yet Kobe has the most missed shots. You guys love to compare the two only when it's convenient. :facepalm
That's right you can't deny Jordan took more high percentage shots.
[QUOTE=ispin69]Yes tell me why Jordan a GUARD doesn't have the highest missed shots right now. Currently he has scored more than Kobe yet Kobe has the most missed shots. You guys love to compare the two only when it's convenient. :facepalm
That's right you can't deny Jordan took more high percentage shots.[/QUOTE]
You're only argument is that Kobe couldn't do it as efficiently as the GOAT..?
:biggums:
[QUOTE=ispin69]Yes tell me why Jordan a GUARD doesn't have the highest missed shots right now. Currently he has scored more than Kobe yet Kobe has the most missed shots. You guys love to compare the two only when it's convenient. :facepalm
That's right you can't deny Jordan took more high percentage shots.[/QUOTE]
- 1. I took Jordan only 1072 games to get to 12,354 misses...
- 2. Jordan 1778 3pt attempts........Kobe 4466 3 pt attempts
- 3. again MJ played in much different era.....where plenty of perimeter stars shot well over 50%
- 4. get back in my pocket son.
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]You're only argument is that Kobe couldn't do it as efficiently as the GOAT..?
:biggums:[/QUOTE]
hey didn't you know....Karl Malone and Kareem at 51% and 55% receptively.
Karl and Jabbar>>>>>>> Jordan.
[QUOTE=AlphaWolf24]- actually Kobe will break the alltime scoring record in 3 more seasons...( passing MJ next season)..18 seasons vs 15 seasons???....in context MJ did it in 3 less seasons.....but Kobe also played less minutes his first 2 years
- and "HIGH PERCENTAGE" is a moot point
This is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during MJ's era(1985-1998).
Michael Jordan - 6 times
Chris Mullen - 6 times
Adrian Dantley - 4 times
Kiki Vandewedge - 4 times
Reggie Miller - 3 times
James Worthy - 3 times
Alex English - 3 times
Dale Ellis - 3 times
Magic Johnson - 2 times
Penny Hardaway - 2 times
Kevin Johnson - 2 times
Clyde Drexler - 2 times
Cedric Ceballos - 2 times
Mark Aguirre - 2 times
Gary Payton - once
Byron Scott - once
Rolando Blackman - once
Walter Davis - once
Jeff Hornacek - once
Otis Birdsong - once
Jeff Malone - once
George Gervin - once
Drazen Petrovic - once
Reggie Lewis - once
Derek Smith - once
Scottie Pippen - once
And here is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during the post-Lockout era(2000-2010).
Lebron James - once
Chris Paul - once
Tony Parker - once
Monta Ellis - once
Shawn Marion - once
So in MJ's era it was done 56 times by 26 different players.
from 2000- 2010 it has been done only 5 times by 5 different players....a totally different era ..especially for perimeter players.[/QUOTE]
:facepalm
Jordan era didn't jack up threes nearly as much, which results in higher percentage shots being taken, also your boy Kobe played less minutes shit is another pathetic excuse you keep clinging too..not to mention better quality bigs demanding attention causing defenses to collapse which provided higher percentage shots for perimeter guys in the Jordan era.
Kobe 43,707 min played
Jordan 41,011 min played
Lmao at the 2010 cutoff u came up with to justify u'r garbage. James 4 seasons in a row with 50+%, also Kevin Durant basically has shot 50% the last two seasons, because he is taking high quality shots and not forcing shit up like Kobe has done throughout his career(but leave it to you, about this mythical great defense). Durant is maturing and becoming a more efficient offensive player, whereas ChuckBe has always worried about individual accolades. Chuckbe in his 17th season, still has the playing mindset like 3rd year MJ.
[QUOTE=MAC system]Shut up baby d1ck[/QUOTE]
if you want to debate this subject.......
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King of Chucking!
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]You're only argument is that Kobe couldn't do it as efficiently as the GOAT..?
:biggums:[/QUOTE]
Sad part is he probably could have, had he played more within the realm of the offense and didn't force up so much crap. The biggest difference between the two is their brains
[QUOTE=Calabis]:facepalm
Jordan era didn't jack up threes nearly as much, which results in higher percentage shots being taken, also your boy Kobe played less minutes shit is another pathetic excuse you keep clinging too..not to mention better quality bigs demanding attention causing defenses to collapse which provided higher percentage shots for perimeter guys in the Jordan era.
Kobe 43,707 min played
Jordan 41,011 min played
Lmao at the 2010 cutoff u came up with to justify u'r garbage. James 4 seasons in a row with 50+%, also Kevin Durant basically has shot 50% the last two seasons, because he is taking high quality shots and not forcing shit up like Kobe has done throughout his career(but leave it to you, about this mythical great defense). Durant is maturing and becoming a more efficient offensive player, whereas ChuckBe has always worried about individual accolades. Chuckbe in his 17th season, still has the playing mindset like 3rd year MJ.[/QUOTE]
- [B][SIZE="6"]the defense was also played much different[/SIZE][/B]...and yes perimeter players didn't take as many outside ( 15'+ beyond from the rim) shots...but IMo and everyone who actually watched the games...teh defense has changed alot since the 80's / mid 90's
- John Havlicek shot 43%. Never shot a 3 in his career... or at least not when it was in the NBA.
Hayes shot 45%. Made 5 3pointers in his career at a whopping 14%...you are lacking in the basic fundemental of recognizing game.....
- again , Lebron James is still only 1 player.....the 2010 cutoff was to show the era's.....even still Lebron is still only 1 player ......and Marion didn't do it...so it's still only a very few players vs nearly 30 in the Jordan era...
- get back in my pocket ****....
[COLOR="White"]stay mad MJ stans...[/COLOR]