Lebron James's ability to play with Stars

[QUOTE=DatAsh]Of course, but that's not what Lebron is. Lebron does have a chance at being the best ever one day though.


I disagree.[/QUOTE]

Ok compare Magic and LBJ for me?

[QUOTE=Joey3000]
Would a faster, stronger, more athletic Magic Johnson have a chance of being the G.O.A.T? Well thats what LBJ is.[/QUOTE]

No, he definately is not. Magic would feed players on their sweetspots, know exactly were everyone would have the best chance to score. That's why it wouldn't matter if he scored 15 or 25 ppg he'd still get his 10-13 assists and the team would score equally. If Lebron decides to drop his scoring for 5 more apg the team wouldn't benefit as much, because James creates space for his teammates by his scoring.

Bron is a good passer but he isn't half as good as Magic was. Most of his passes come from kick outs, and he depends on solid 3 pt shooters for that. Magic had an unbelievable court vision and could pass from the post, in transition and could kick out the ball ass well.

[QUOTE=Overdrive]No, he definately is not. Magic would feed players on their sweetspots, know exactly were everyone would have the best chance to score. That's why it wouldn't matter if he scored 15 or 25 ppg he'd still get his 10-13 assists and the team would score equally. If Lebron decides to drop his scoring for 5 more apg the team wouldn't benefit as much, because James creates space for his teammates by his scoring.[/QUOTE]


So the concept of LBJ being compared to Magic is new here? He is only compared to Magic when it

[QUOTE=Haymaker]Bron is a good passer but he isn't half as good as Magic was. Most of his passes come from kick outs, and he depends on solid 3 pt shooters for that. Magic had an unbelievable court vision and could pass from the post, in transition and could kick out the ball ass well.[/QUOTE]


LBJ is an amazing passer. Great court vision, and never have I seen so many full court passes/Ally's in 1 season. All his pass are on the mark and to try and take his passing ability away to make ur arguement is silly.

Was Magic a better passer? ofcourse an arguement can be made for that. But is Magic ranks a 10 at passing, LBJ is an 8.5.

What? Wade and Bosh are the ones that have completely changed their games to fit with Lebron not the way other way around. The only players that thrive playing with Lebron are shooters or limited role players. This is actually what i feel Lebrons biggest flaw is he can only play one way (lebron ball). His teammates/coaching staff have completely changed the system to revolve around Lebrons game.

[QUOTE=Joey3000]So the concept of LBJ being compared to Magic is new here? He is only compared to Magic when it

[QUOTE=Overdrive]It's not to disregard Lebron, but he's no PG like Magic. Some people make him out to be that, but I just don't agree. He's neither a scorer/shooter like MJ. He's kind off in between. Basically his Magic traits live by his MJ traits, but none are as developed as the original. That doesn't mean he cannot overtake Magic in the GOAT rankings. I just don't see him overtake MJ. His '11 Finals just showed that he's not as good mentally and that he cannot play with other superstars from the get-go. Especially not in a Magic Johnson way, because that's basically what he was trying to do, in a very passive way, in said finals series.[/QUOTE]


He cant play with other superstars from the get-go? They went to the finals while still trying to figure out his team it is. Once they all agreed its LBJ's team they won it all.

I dont see how going to the finals ur first year together is a blemish on his carear.

[QUOTE=Overdrive]It's not to disregard Lebron, but he's no PG like Magic. Some people make him out to be that, but I just don't agree. He's neither a scorer/shooter like MJ. He's kind off in between. Basically his Magic traits live by his MJ traits, but none are as developed as the original. That doesn't mean he cannot overtake Magic in the GOAT rankings. I just don't see him overtake MJ. His '11 Finals just showed that he's not as good mentally and that he cannot play with other superstars from the get-go. Especially not in a Magic Johnson way, because that's basically what he was trying to do, in a very passive way, in said finals series.[/QUOTE]
Lebron is a pg he's a scoring pg a bigger Rose/Westbrook

[QUOTE=Joey3000]So the concept of LBJ being compared to Magic is new here? He is only compared to Magic when it

[QUOTE=Ikill]What? Wade and Bosh are the ones that have completely changed their games to fit with Lebron not the way other way around. The only players that thrive playing with Lebron are shooters or limited role players. This is actually what i feel Lebrons biggest flaw is he can only play one way (lebron ball). His teammates/coaching staff have completely changed the system to revolve around Lebrons game.[/QUOTE]


OK fine. Now would Wade be as willing to take a step back for a guy like Kobe? Not in your wildest dreams. He got Wade to buy into what you just refered to as "Lebron James Ball". How do u get a guy who many concidered to be batman over your robin to switch roles?

Again.. If LBJ ends up G.O.A.T it will be due to his ability to play along side other superstars.

[QUOTE=Joey3000]
Was Magic a better passer? ofcourse an arguement can be made for that. [/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Joey3000]OK lets look at it this way. U have this team:

Shaq
Garnett
Kobe
Chris Paul.

Who do u add, MJ or Lebron?
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Actually you know what. It's more beneficial to that team to add someone like Battier. Who doesn't need the ball on offense, can shoot the three, and can help defend the other team's star. This also allows the other 4 stars of the team to shine more, their usage goes up.

If lebron plays, he'll hold the ball in his hands most of the time. The other guys won't play up to their potential.. it'll be a disaster.

So yeah.. fail..

What ability?

He killed the Heat stone cold dead in 2011, and the team only started winning when everyone else subordinated to him, and accepted him as the alpha dog of the team.

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[QUOTE=Joey3000]OK fine. Now would Wade be as willing to take a step back for a guy like Kobe? Not in your wildest dreams. He got Wade to buy into what you just refered to as "Lebron James Ball". How do u get a guy who many concidered to be batman over your robin to switch roles?

Again.. If LBJ ends up G.O.A.T it will be due to his ability to play along side other superstars.[/QUOTE]
He wouldn't need to step back if he played with Kobe their games would fit better