Re: The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism
[QUOTE=miller-time]Or social conditioning for perceiving racism exists. I'd hazard a guess and say more people are told the N-word is a bad word than experience having the N-word used against them. Their negative reaction to the word stems from the perception of racism rather than the experience of racism.
How much is in-group conditioning constructing the beliefs and perceptions about out-groups?
I could be wrong on that one though, more of a passing thought.[/QUOTE]
That is probably true of the N-word for many. But racism isn't just about that word being used.
[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]who gives a fck about what people "say" or "dirty looks" ?
I've had blacks mean mug me plenty of times and I never care about it enough to throw out "OMG he hates me because I'm white!"
I've heard blacks talk ill of white people, even my own black friends...never gave a fck really
sticks and stones...
I mean really if you're going to complain about racism then let be about not getting a job or something that actually means something.[/QUOTE]
A perfect example of white privilege. People who are in a position of never being oppressed don't react as strongly because the racism used against them has never done serious harm against them. For example, the word "Cracker." I've heard white people say "I've never cared if others use that word against me. But even the meaning of the word comes from a place of white people being in control ("Cracker" comes from the idea of white people being the ones that "cracked" the whips).
Re: The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism
[QUOTE=Rasheed1]that dude is a troll who rivals my shadow.. ignore him.. he's probably an alt..[/QUOTE]
Which was why I simply posted a emoticon versus a thought out response. There was another post that I simply ignored completely for the same reason of it being blatantly bad.
Re: The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism
[QUOTE=Myth]That is probably true of the N-word for many. But racism isn't just about that word being used. [/quote]
most of the racism I face doesnt deal with something as blatant as the "n" word.
White people are waay too scared to say that word to my face...
Its occurs in situations like I explained.. Where people treat loved ones differently if Im around or my wife not being able to trust her employers because they have said racist things in the past and she doesnt want them to know Im black because it might cost her job
Re: The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism
I like how Myth gets a psych degree and suddenly becomes an authority on everything.
Re: The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism
[QUOTE=Rasheed1]I didnt say the looks are due racism... Im relating it to fact that I dont see it, so it doesnt register in my mind..
Im trying to see where people who pretend racism doesnt exist are coming from.. Because I dont see it.. I might downplay it bit more than she likes..[/QUOTE]
okay gotcha
Re: The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism
[QUOTE=Rasheed1]most of the racism I face doesnt deal with something as blatant as the "n" word.
White people are waay too scared to say that word to my face...
Its occurs in situations like I explained.. Where people treat loved ones differently if Im around or my wife not being able to trust her employers because they have said racist things in the past and she doesnt want them to know Im black because it might cost her job[/QUOTE]
Yeah. As I said, racism today is more covert and about bias. Even when I'm only around white people, nobody drops a hard N.
Re: The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism
[QUOTE=Balla_Status]I like how Myth gets a psych degree and suddenly becomes an authority on everything.[/QUOTE]
:lol
I only claim to be an authority on things I have actually spent much time learning about. Diversity happens to have been one of the strongest focuses in my 10 years of studying psychology (Diversity and relationships were my two strongest focuses). However, even when talking about race and minorities, I don't claim to be an authority. I talk primarily from a position of an intellectual understanding of the experience of minorities. As much as I understand lots of this intellectually, I won't have the experience of fully understanding the experience.
Re: The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism
[QUOTE=Myth]That is probably true of the N-word for many. But racism isn't just about that word being used.[/quote]
Well that was just a specific example. In general it would be lessons about distrust and over analyzing the behavior of white people. Learning that a group of people are inherently racist (as opposed to experiencing racism from them) will probably make you see them that way.
[quote]A perfect example of white privilege. People who are in a position of never being oppressed don't react as strongly because the racism used against them has never done serious harm against them. For example, the word "Cracker." I've heard white people say "I've never cared if others use that word against me. But even the meaning of the word comes from a place of white people being in control ("Cracker" comes from the idea of white people being the ones that "cracked" the whips).[/QUOTE]
Louis CK - [url]http://youtu.be/TG4f9zR5yzY?t=1m58s[/url]
Re: The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism
[QUOTE=Myth]T
A perfect example of white privilege. People who are in a position of never being oppressed don't react as strongly because the racism used against them has never done serious harm against them. For example, the word "Cracker." I've heard white people say "I've never cared if others use that word against me. But even the meaning of the word comes from a place of white people being in control ("Cracker" comes from the idea of white people being the ones that "cracked" the whips).[/QUOTE]
I disagree...I think brushing off bad names and dirty looks is an adult thing, not a race thing
someone looked at your black girlfriend with a mean grin?...who gives a shit, move on
Re: The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism
[QUOTE=-p.tiddy-]someone looked at your black girlfriend with a mean grin?...who gives a shit, move on[/QUOTE]
That is good advice if it happens once or twice, but if it happens a lot then it is going to build up. No matter how adult you are, you can only take so much nonsense from other people.
Re: The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism
I have a bad experiences with racism. I just kind of laugh about 'em now.
Re: The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism
[QUOTE=Jameerthefear]I have a bad experiences with racism. I just kind of laugh about 'em now.[/QUOTE]
You live in Alabama though, that's expected. :oldlol:
Re: The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism
[QUOTE=Rasheed1]most of the racism I face doesnt deal with something as blatant as the "n" word.
[B]White people are waay too scared to say that word to my face...[/B]
Its occurs in situations like I explained.. Where people treat loved ones differently if Im around or my wife not being able to trust her employers because they have said racist things in the past and she doesnt want them to know Im black because it might cost her job[/QUOTE]
Who is the racist now?
Re: The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism
[QUOTE=miller-time]
Louis CK - [url]http://youtu.be/TG4f9zR5yzY?t=1m58s[/url][/QUOTE]
I love Louis. His comedy is so honest and spot on.
As to the other part, I agree that is part of it, but the actual lived experience of it being there can't help.
Re: The Daily Show illustrates the cleft between black and white Americans on racism
[QUOTE=Jameerthefear]I have a bad experiences with racism. I just kind of laugh about 'em now.[/QUOTE]
Good coping skills :applause: