If Oscar was as good as his stats would imply especially in the more modern era then he may actually beat anything on this earth :P
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If Oscar was as good as his stats would imply especially in the more modern era then he may actually beat anything on this earth :P
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[QUOTE=Doranku]Too bad he never figured out how to win. :roll:[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=OhNoTimNoSho]This just in: Grumpy old man says things were better back in his day.
More at 11.[/QUOTE]
Normally that could be the case, but he complimented Lebron.
Through my observation of top level professional athletes the one thing I've noticed is that they are obsessively competitive, in a not normal way, so you can expect them to be confident. Some how people here want a player that was considered the GOAT at one time to be submissive to Kobe.
[QUOTE=jstern]Normally that could be the case, but he complimented Lebron.
Through my observation of top level professional athletes the one thing I've noticed is that they are obsessively competitive, in a not normal way, so you can expect them to be confident. [B]Some how people here want a player that was considered the GOAT at one time to be submissive to Kobe[/B].[/QUOTE]
Around the same time George Mikan was considered the GOAT, so pretty irrelevant. :oldlol:
[quote=rule1223]who cares what scrubs think[/quote]
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Big O is like Chris Paul with Penny Hardaway's post up game and Jordan's strength (though not as explosive). Also Big O is a lot smoother than CP without all the herky jerky deceptive moves and he didn't flop around. He is the pick & roll master in a league today that heavily favors P&R PG play and with all the spot up 3 point shooters to spread the floor out. Never mind that he is 6'6, 220 lbs and you can't touch him on the outside without a foul.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9Gbb9_XAtU&t=16m52s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9Gbb9_XAtU&t=16m52s[/URL]
In the video example below, look how he bumps off powerful forward Chet Walker with great ease and grace. In the following play, Wali Jones (the top defensive guard in the NBA) is completely helpless on the baseline against Oscar, who makes him look almost like a high school kid. Seeing as Wilt had to watch Dierking (who could shoot from the outside), once Oscar had him all by himself, it was over.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aECiYcdvIE&t=3m16s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aECiYcdvIE&t=3m16s[/URL]
In keeping track of Bill Russell and [URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=302158"]Boston's defense[/URL] in the available game footage, the Royals with Oscar shot 7/8 (87.5%) in pick & roll plays where Russell was involved in the play. The other opponents shot 2/11 (18%) in the same situation.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6kIu34Qsc&t=22m45s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6kIu34Qsc&t=22m45s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6kIu34Qsc&t=12m55s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6kIu34Qsc&t=12m55s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6kIu34Qsc&t=11m10s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6kIu34Qsc&t=11m10s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6kIu34Qsc&t=14m07s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6kIu34Qsc&t=14m07s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6kIu34Qsc&t=24m47s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6kIu34Qsc&t=24m47s[/URL] *How many players today can make this shot from this close a distance and angle?
He had a very quick release on his shot as well.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTs918TZ-qo&t=9m58s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTs918TZ-qo&t=9m58s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buIzpvJDMis&t=18m15s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buIzpvJDMis&t=18m15s[/URL]
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6kIu34Qsc&t=12m55s"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6kIu34Qsc&t=12m55s[/URL]
[I]Sports Illustrated - October 24, 1966
[B]CINCINNATI[/B]
The pick-and-roll is a simple play, even used by the kids at the YMCA in half-court games. With somewhat better personnel, the Royals dare you to stop it. Oscar Robertson gets the pick, and Jerry Lucas takes the roll (right). Lucas, guarded by a big forward, picks Oscar's man, or slows him down, to make the forward commit himself. If the big man switches to Robertson, Lucas has a smaller defender and rolls for the basket and a pass from Oscar. If there is no switch. Robertson zips past with at least a half-step advantage and a one-on-one situation with a guard down near the baseline. "If I can get him to that spot," says Coach Jack McMahon, "he's unstoppable."[/I]
[B]The Big O: My Life, My Times, My Game[/B] - Oscar Robertson
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/HTDvDgD.png[/IMG]
I remember Elie being an idiot, but he still carries on this way ? Give it up, man.
[QUOTE=Doranku]Too bad he never figured out how to win.[/QUOTE]
And what the hell does this mean ?
Along with "I know basketball", bunch clueless shit being said.
[QUOTE=rhythmic †hesis]Around the same time George Mikan was considered the GOAT[/QUOTE]
Bill Russell was the GOAT by the time Oscar retired. He was considered the most dominant guard, even GOAT by a few of his peers.
[QUOTE=jstern]How does a Kobe stan in the level of the Alphawolf, 9erempiree, and Kengriffin get a press pass?[/QUOTE]
They are all the same person. They all claim that Kobe is #2 all time. Its actually quite sad that they believe that. Blinded by Lebrons success.:bowdown:
Both Lebron and Kobe would crush Oscar one on one.
Remember when the 'Big O' claimed that [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I52nezhkyA"]LeBron is a MUCH better player than Jordan[/URL]?
With all due respect, I would take his opinion w/ a grain of salt.
[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]Remember when the 'Big O' claimed that [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I52nezhkyA"]LeBron is a MUCH better player than Jordan[/URL]?
With all due respect, I would take his opinion w/ a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]
Where exactly does Oscar say "Lebron is a MUCH better player than Jordan"?
All I heard was "Lebron is in a class by himself" which can be taken a lot of different ways, Oscar could just be saying Lebron is cut from a totally different cloth. Which is true... Because Lebron and Jordan don't play a similar game.
[QUOTE=CavaliersFTW]Where exactly does Oscar say "Lebron is a MUCH better player than Jordan"?
All I heard was "Lebron is in a class by himself" which can be taken a lot of different ways, Oscar could just be saying Lebron is cut from a totally different cloth. Which is true... Because Lebron and Jordan don't play a similar game.[/QUOTE]
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Semantics. [I]A class by himself[/I] is what it is.
Are we going to even act like players don't side with who they see THEMSELVES in the most?
Take this with a grain of salt.
MJ reps Kobe
Bird reps Kobe
Oscar reps LeBron
Pippen reps LeBron
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Are we going to even act like players don't side with who they see THEMSELVES in the most?
Take this with a grain of salt.
MJ reps Kobe
Bird reps Kobe
Oscar reps LeBron
Pippen reps LeBron[/QUOTE]
This right here but they all stay politically correct so that's why you see them give every player praise.
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Are we going to even act like players don't side with who they see THEMSELVES in the most?
Take this with a grain of salt.
MJ reps Kobe
Bird reps Kobe
Oscar reps LeBron
Pippen reps LeBron[/QUOTE]
And the deciding vote goes to Magic ...