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I didn't even bring up lebron's most basic 1 handed dart passes and his across the court/body bullets:biggums:
[b]Thunder vs. Heat: LeBron James highlights - 34 points, 10 assists (4.4.12) - YouTube[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10WQizH3Yoo[/url]
@ 4:26
@ 4:48-: 4:52:eek: Could Bird hit you with darts like that? (again at 5:07)
[b]LeBron James no look pass to Chris Bosh vs Portland (2013.01.10) - YouTube[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf9cNLPiRaw[/url]
too easy:coleman:
C'mon guys, gimme some Bird cross court bullets...? I know those guys in the '80s couldn't shoot threes, but surely he was capable of making so easy pass.
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[b]Thunder vs. Heat: LeBron James highlights - 34 points, 10 assists (4.4.12) - YouTube[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10WQizH3Yoo[/url]
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Those cross court passes are a thing of beauty given how simple he makes them look. If someone who hasn't played basketball in his life watches those, he'd think that he could do it but they are so fu[I]ck[/I]ing hard to do with lebron's accuracy.
[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]Those cross court passes are a thing of beauty given how simple he makes them look. If someone who hasn't played basketball in his life watches those, he'd think that he could do it but they are so fu[I]ck[/I]ing hard to do with lebron's accuracy.[/QUOTE]
Lebron is the best at that pass hands down. Some more
[b]▶ LeBron James Full Highlights 2013.03.25 at Magic - 24 Pts, 11 Assists, 9 Rebs. - YouTube[/b]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eifqij4Jj8s[/url]
@ 4:01 left handed
@ 4:06 right handed
@ :57 underhanded dart:oldlol: :eek:
[B]People still trying to say Lebron's the better passer? :oldlol:
I mean, it's not far by any means but please, only Lebron fanboys, people who haven't seen enough of Bird or people that never played organized basketball/know nothing about the game, are going to say that LBJ is the better passer.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTI-Cmkp87A[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o66NdFDHEQ[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gqDadqF3Ns[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbFNQoY8RFk[/url]
That pretty much tops anything that Lebron has ever done, and he did that on the regular, plus we're talking about a guy that played 30 years ago.
Bird pulled passes on the regular that would be career passes for Lebron and only "happening" like a couple of times with him. Larry had more precision, had a longer variety with speed, put better spin, better IQ, knew where his teammates were going to be as opposed to only where they were, most of the time threw the right pass, could use the left hand much better, his flashy passes where needed as opposed to Lebron who over-does-it a whole lot, Bird did the necessary pass to get teammates easy bucks, passes that were extremely hard to pull, and he didn't need to over-handle the ball or dribble out the clock to put the hot potato on another's guys hands to get his passing numbers or put people out of their game like turning Bosh into a 3pt shooter or something lol.
Lebron's passes that people go crazy over, nowadays... Bird did better stuff regularly, hype wasn't the same as in this generation though lol.
Bird = greatest non-guard passer, top 5 passer ever
Lebron = one of the greatest non-guard passers, top 15/20 passer ever[/B]
If you never saw Larry play (99% of kids here on ISH), LBJ is your GOAT SF.
If you saw Larry play (1% of adults here on ISH), Bird is your GOAT SF.
Simple.
[QUOTE=Trollsmasher]C'mon guys, gimme some Bird cross court bullets...? I know those guys in the '80s couldn't shoot threes, but surely he was capable of making so easy pass.[/QUOTE]
There's footage out there somewhere of Bird making one of those passes left handed for an open three, I think to Danny Ainge. If I have time today I'll try to dig it up.
Bird did that stuff often, but the video footage of that era if obviously less-abundant than what we have today.
Also, offensive sets back then weren't as centered around the three point shot, and court spacing among players wasn't as wide, so there were fewer opportunities in a given game to make that kind of pass.
[QUOTE=jzek]If you never saw Larry play (99% of kids here on ISH), LBJ is your GOAT SF.
If you saw Larry play (1% of adults here on ISH), Bird is your GOAT SF.
Simple.[/QUOTE]
[B]Pretty much.[/B]
[QUOTE=Champ]There's footage out there somewhere of Bird making one of those passes left handed for an open three, I think to Danny Ainge. If I have time today I'll try to dig it up.
Bird did that stuff often, but the video footage of that era if obviously less-abundant than what we have today.
Also, offensive sets back then weren't as centered around the three point shot, and court spacing among players wasn't as wide, so there were fewer opportunities in a given game to make that kind of pass.[/QUOTE]
[B]This pass?[/B] [url]http://youtu.be/AbFNQoY8RFk?t=2m57s[/url]
[B]
Majority of players throughout history trying to make that pass with the non-dominant hand?.. Ball would've ended out of bounds. With Larry, it couldn't be more perfect, right in the shooting's pocket, Danny didn't even have to move an inch of his body or arms/hands. Just crazy that he would do that type of stuff regularly. [/B]
[QUOTE=jzek]If you never saw Larry play (99% of kids here on ISH), LBJ is your GOAT SF.
[b]If you saw Larry play (1% of adults here on ISH), Bird is your GOAT SF.[/b]
Simple.[/QUOTE]
I started watching NBA 2 years ago and even I know this
[QUOTE=HomieWeMajor]I started watching NBA 2 years ago and even I know this[/QUOTE]
[B]There's plenty of younger people who go to youtube and whatnot to watch past-eras games, or extensive games highlights. You can definitely see the greatness of someone like Larry Bird doing that, just to understand how amazing he was, some people don't even know it..[/B]
ShaqisGOAT.... Look, I was just a toddler the last time Bird played but my father was a huge Celtic fan (pbuh) & a basketball coach (how i got into basketball), he VHS taped around 200 games from the 80s Celtics (including much more of other games especially from 80s FIBA, Euro & Yugo cups), i have carefully used that <<REW button on my Hitachi on all those Celtic games and seen many other games thanks to [url]www.pontel.com[/url] DVD's, i became a massive Larry Bird fan... He is up there only with Drazen & Reggie my favorite players of all time, those are the games i emulated & players i idolised growing up.... I think Larry Bird is not only the best SF of all time but arguably/in my opinion the greatest overall actual basketball player i seen in terms of overall skills.... i think all his facets of the game were premiere... if he had better athleticism, oh my....
So please dont give me that Lebron homer / You have not seen Bird excuse (especially you CavaliersFTW) when i tell you that who the better passer was between Lebron / Bird is MUCH more contestable than what you think.... I am extremly nostalgic, but not in a prejudiced way, i love basketball more, i unfortunately have seen just as much as Lebron or others footage.... i can easily tell you he is right up there in terms of passing skills/vision and yes its not absurd to argue he was better just like it is for Bird.... unlike you that is not a statement, but just my opinion based on my awereness from both these players....
I thought Bird was by far the best passing non pg i ever seen, then Lebron came in and i have been just smh ever since until i gave up and said "Ok, fine, this guys passing is right up there".... actually, that is the main reason i like Lebrons game, his offensive mindset kindof reminds of Larry & Magic... without his vision/passing/ballcontrol he is just another Dominique with better defense or something afterall and i would then probably not been as fond of his game as i am right now, not sure lol....
[QUOTE=SHAQisGOAT][B]People still trying to say Lebron's the better passer? :oldlol:
I mean, it's not far by any means but please, only Lebron fanboys, people who haven't seen enough of Bird or people that never played organized basketball/know nothing about the game, are going to say that LBJ is the better passer.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTI-Cmkp87A[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o66NdFDHEQ[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gqDadqF3Ns[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbFNQoY8RFk[/url]
That pretty much tops anything that Lebron has ever done, and he did that on the regular, plus we're talking about a guy that played 30 years ago.
Bird pulled passes on the regular that would be career passes for Lebron and only "happening" like a couple of times with him. Larry had more precision, had a longer variety with speed, put better spin, better IQ, knew where his teammates were going to be as opposed to only where they were, most of the time threw the right pass, could use the left hand much better, his flashy passes where needed as opposed to Lebron who over-does-it a whole lot, Bird did the necessary pass to get teammates easy bucks, passes that were extremely hard to pull, and he didn't need to over-handle the ball or dribble out the clock to put the hot potato on another's guys hands to get his passing numbers or put people out of their game like turning Bosh into a 3pt shooter or something lol.
Lebron's passes that people go crazy over, nowadays... Bird did better stuff regularly, hype wasn't the same as in this generation though lol.
Bird = greatest non-guard passer, top 5 passer ever
Lebron = one of the greatest non-guard passers, top 15/20 passer ever[/B][/QUOTE]
why do you always write in bold? are your parents divorced and you feel like nobody pays attention to you?
[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]why do you always write in bold? are your parents divorced and you feel like nobody pays attention to you?[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
[QUOTE=Rose'sACL]why do you always write in bold? are your parents divorced and you feel like nobody pays attention to you?[/QUOTE]
whoa:roll: :roll: :roll:
LeBron James may be the best skip passer I have ever seen but he is not as good as an overall passer as Larry Bird.