[QUOTE=NumberSix]Please tell me you're joking[/QUOTE]
You even think, maybe they don't might Blake shooting jumpers?
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[QUOTE=NumberSix]Please tell me you're joking[/QUOTE]
You even think, maybe they don't might Blake shooting jumpers?
MVP is a regular season award, and Dirk was unreal in the regular season.
[QUOTE=toooo]You even think, maybe they don't might Blake shooting jumpers?[/QUOTE]
Lol. You're right. :roll: :roll:
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Reg. Season + Playoffs tell you who the real MVP was:
Kobe - 2010
Duncan - 2007
Wade - 2006
Duncan - 2005
MJ - 1997
Hakeem - 1995
MJ - 1993
MJ - 1990
MJ - 1989
2011 is a complete toss up for both reg and post season play to me. People made decent cases at different times. Why is Rose MVP so undervalued?[/QUOTE]
2011 is absolutely not a toss up factoring in regular season and playoffs. Dirk would be the clear cut MVP. Dirk's regular season is so under-rated. His team went 55-18 with him on the floor and put up 23/7/3 on 61% TS. Rose put up 25/8/4 on 55% TS in the regular season. Those stat lines are about as close as you can get. Dirk's team success was right in line with Rose's when healthy as well.
Then you get the clear cut best player in the playoffs putting up 28/8/3 on 61% TS and winning the title.
And you call that a toss up? GTFO...
according to ish, if you are under 6'3" you will never deserve an mvp award.
[QUOTE=nathanjizzle]according to ish, if you are under 6'3" you will never deserve an mvp award.[/QUOTE]
Fuq is dis fake Asian niqqa talkin bout?
[QUOTE=nathanjizzle]according to ish, if you are under 6'3" you will never deserve an mvp award.[/QUOTE]
or maybe tall people just tend to be better at basketball.
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Seriously ...
Agenda exposed much?
I thought record determined how good a team was? At least that's his argument for why the Bulls are just so talented.
The very next series that team got smacked by the Jazz.[/QUOTE]
I've never said record determines how good a team is. This is a big flaw with how many people evaluate teams. They use a flawed regular season record as a means to either prop up or diminish certain things. Those 07 Mavs could have easily won 55 games (12 less than they actually did)...and nobody would have thought twice about it.
But Dirk played unreal throughout and they over-achieved hugely in the regular season...and then his great play is used against him claiming he had a 67 win team by his side.
I've never said that about Rose. I've never referenced his 62 wins and used it against him like that.
The same thing happened with Lebron in 09 and 10...his team had great regular season success and it skewed how good those teams actually were.
[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]or maybe tall people just tend to be better at basketball.[/QUOTE]
It's good to see people that get it.
[QUOTE=DMAVS41]It's good to see people that get it.[/QUOTE]
If were gonna keep grading on a curve to excuse shorter people for not being as good as taller people, I'm gonna start penalizing fast people for being faster than slower people.
[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Take a look;
Howard/Terry/Stackhouse/Harris/Damp/Diop/George/Croshere
Davis/Jackson/Richardson/Barnes/Ellis/Harrington/Pietrus/Biedrins
We gonna sit here and act like that is some scrub team?[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, but that's not some juggernaut team. There's a reason we never heard from them again. Certainly a team the MVP should be able to handle.
[QUOTE=NumberSix]If were gonna keep grading on a curve to excuse shorter people for not being as good as taller people, I'm gonna start penalizing fast people for being faster than slower people.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. I used to debate game winning shot stuff with Kobe fans all the time. Finally when the numbers came out...they conceded Dirk was better, but said it wasn't a fair comparison because Dirk is taller and can get better shots.
I literally pissed my pants...
This shit never ceases to amaze me.
[QUOTE=DMAVS41]Exactly. I used to debate game winning shot stuff with Kobe fans all the time. Finally when the numbers came out...they conceded Dirk was better, but said it wasn't a fair comparison because Dirk is taller and can get better shots.
I literally pissed my pants...
This shit never ceases to amaze me.[/QUOTE]
Stop lying....No one ever conceded shit. And Dirk being a 7 foot PF should definitely take consideration in FG% stats. Most big men have high fg%.
[QUOTE=Heavincent]I'm sorry, but that's not some juggernaut team. There's a reason we never heard from them again. Certainly a team the MVP should be able to handle.[/QUOTE]
Did I say they were great? No. I said they weren't some run of the mill 8 seed. Hell, half their team was injured all year and they still won 42 games.
I've never said anything other than the Mavs weren't as good as their record and the Warriors were clearly better.
Baron/Richardson/Jackson/Harrington all went significant time not on the court
For example...the team went 36-27 with Baron on the court...
It's just a one off series. A team that was much better than their 42-40 record vs a team worse than their 67-15 record...with the Warriors happening to play a style that was a nightmare for the Mavs. Avery panicked and went small to try and match the Warriors and it killed us. We could talk forever about that series, but like I said before...You know you're an all time great when a 20/11/2 series is thought of like this.
That is how you really know greatness. When you play like ass....you get killed. You know how I know Parker isn't really an elite top 5 player like people claimed, besides just watching...nobody gave a **** that he was terrible in the finals.
[QUOTE=branslowski]Stop lying....No one ever conceded shit. And Dirk being a 7 foot PF should definitely take consideration in FG% stats. Most big men have high fg%.[/QUOTE]
No one conceded? Dirk is objectively better at game winning shots than Kobe...especially in the playoffs.
It's a fact. There is no debate.
Do we have to go over simple math again?