I cannot take this current era of players seriously because of no hand checking

[QUOTE=Marlo_Stanfield]thats because he actively tries to injure players every game.
if handchecking was allowed a fraud like harden wouldnt even crack 10ppg so u might just shut up:coleman:[/QUOTE]
Nah, Harden is the best I've seen at ripping through a reaching defenders arm. His PPG would skyrocket.

[QUOTE=Quickening]MJ had 3 consecutive seasons in the 80s where he had more free throw attempts per game than Durant this year... :lol :roll:[/QUOTE]

:oldlol:
but still, the man had it so tough from those crooked refs...it's pretty hilarious when you think about it, since Jordan even ended his second three peat career with an uncalled offensive push-off and a title winning basket thanks to it lol

[QUOTE=Rocketswin2013]LeBron went months without fouling last year. It works both ways.[/QUOTE]
Whose alt are you, bro? Pretending to be a Rockets fan. All I've seen you do is hate on the Heat and LeBron.

BTW, LeBron went 6 games without fouling in a span of 10-12 days. Not "months". :facepalm

[QUOTE=aj1987]Whose alt are you, bro? Pretending to be a Rockets fan. All I've seen you do is hate on the Heat and LeBron.

BTW, LeBron went 6 games without fouling in a span of 10-12 days. Not "months". :facepalm[/QUOTE]

Nah. I'm a diehard rockets fan. Trolling LeBron fans is fun though.

[quote]Joe Johnson was asked about the handchecking rule during the summer of 2011: “It benefits me,” said Joe Johnson, one of three players (Mike Bibby and Jamal Crawford are the others) on the Hawks’ roster who have averaged 20 or more points in a season. “It definitely changes the game because it gives every guy that extra step. “If we could hand check now, the game would be totally different,” Johnson said. “If they couldn’t hand check back in the day, there are some guys that would have been even better than they were. It would have been nuts for some of the big-time scorers and perimeter players from the 1980s and 1990s. Can you imagine what [Michael] Jordan would have done in a league where you couldn’t hand check.”[/quote]

Yeah, JJ was just being nostalgic. What does an NBA player TODAY know? :confusedshrug:

imagine durant in the 80s while keeping his ref protection, he'd average 30ppg just from FTs.

Really, we wouldn't be having jerry west as the logo but a statue of durant shooting a free throw.

Kobe averaged 30 7 6 with 2.2 spg for a season in the handcheck era, his stats didn't really improve that much apart from the 2005-06 season. I mean, the rule changes definitely helped perimeter players as the rule changes were made primarily to boost the scoring average, Kobe, Lebron & AI had huge boosts in ppg in 06, though the rules were changed in the 2004-05 season.

But I think in today's league, teams have adapted to the rule changes & it's hardly a factor now.

[quote]Tex Winter said: “Players today can get to the basket individually much easier.”[/quote]

[quote]Asked if he could defend Jordan under today’s interpretation of the rules, Joe Dumars first laughed, “It would have been virtually impossible to defend Michael Jordan based on the way the game’s being called right now.”[/quote]

[quote]Ron Artest claimed that if he defended Jordan in his prime, that Michael Jordan “would drop 50 on me”.

Ron Artest on Jordan in 2001 comeback – “If I didn’t break his ribs, he was going average 30 and win the scoring title”
Bruce Bowen said the toughest player he ever had to defend was Michael Jordan.[/quote]

[quote]Tim Grover, who has trained Kobe, Lebron, and Jordan, was asked who would win a 1-on-1 battle of Jordan vs. either of the other two:

Tim Grover: “Oh, Michael. No question. From a physical and mental standpoint, he’s the best I’ve ever seen. If he were playing now, with the way the refs call everything, and with all the padding these guys wear, he’d average 40 or 50 a night if he wanted.”[/quote]

Yeah. Coaches, GMs, and trainers, TODAY, are just being "nostalgic". My God, I love owning you idiots.

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]Yeah, JJ was just being nostalgic. What does an NBA player TODAY know? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, you if removed hand-checking in a league where zone defense was already illegal, yeah, some players would be even better. Duh. :hammerhead:

If you make zones illegal right now, guys like Durant will average 40PPG.

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]Yeah, JJ was just being nostalgic. What does an NBA player TODAY know? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

Yes but you can play zone now where as you couldn't before. it evens out

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]Yeah. Coaches, GMs, and trainers, TODAY, are just being "nostalgic". My God, I love owning you idiots.[/QUOTE]

Average 50 a night? :lol :roll: :roll:

[QUOTE=RoundMoundOfReb]Yes but you can play zone now where as you couldn't before. it evens out[/QUOTE]

Zone is trash. Not even a full-functioning zone with the 3 second rule.

Not to mention, it's barely run sans the college game.

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]Yeah. Coaches, GMs, and trainers, TODAY, are just being "nostalgic". My God, I love owning you idiots.[/QUOTE]

Jordan was unstoppable in his day too, and could have gotten 50 any game he wanted to.. he didnt because it is basically impossible to average 50 ppg and win anything because there are heavy diminishing returns on your teammates if you use up that many possesions.

gdamn you're being a dumbass.. it was phil who taught Jordan the importance of building team chemistry and balance to win, and you think Jordan is going to toss up a ton of shots every single game to average 50..

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]Yeah, JJ was just being nostalgic. What does an NBA player TODAY know? :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]

they apparently don't understand that zone D's such as mavs 2011 can be much more effective in stopping superstar perimeter scorers than physical man 2 man D.

you can also add the pistons vs kobe in 2004.

really the league had several defensive revolutions since jordan played.

1. introduction of zone, 3s lane calls (O and D)
2. thibodeau's ice/no middle and other small defensive schemas against pnrs/pnps
3. hybrid rushing zones for smallball (what miami is playing when engaged)

no wonder players are more team-oriented today than in 1998 for example.

Probably a coach is better at explaining this but it is obvious that basketball plays very different now than 15 years ago.

Clyde Drexler: For guys who penetrate these days, it’s hunting season. Yes, now you can play (floating)zone(legally), but teams rarely do.”

ISH nerds >>>> basketball legends, amirite?