Lol of course the Cavs will **** this up. Would be nice to see them pick Randle or someone to go nicely with the others except Kyrie.
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Lol of course the Cavs will **** this up. Would be nice to see them pick Randle or someone to go nicely with the others except Kyrie.
[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]Lol of course the Cavs will **** this up. Would be nice to see them pick Randle or someone to go nicely with the others except Kyrie.[/QUOTE]
^^^Mad the Cavs' jump cost Motown its pick. :oldlol:
This pick is an utter no-brainer, imo.
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]Does this post suggest you think Kyrie Irving was a poor choice?[/QUOTE]
Never been fond of Irving to be honest, and he hasn't really made their situation any different which is what a #1 pick is supposed to do.
Mad Joe D lost the pick, but happy 50 years of Cleveland ineptitude will continue to ruin any perceived luck.
Lol yeah, if Kyrie was even decent you'd think he could avoid back2back #1 picks after he was drafted.
Dat dere defense doe.
[QUOTE=Le Shaqtus]Never been fond of Irving to be honest, and he hasn't really made their situation any different which is what a #1 pick is supposed to do.[/QUOTE]
This is true, but there was and hasn't been anyone better from that draft. Irving by far has been the best player from that draft. I don't think the Cavs would be in any better of a situation if they had drafted Derrick Williams or someone else.
[QUOTE=Le Shaqtus]Never been fond of Irving to be honest, and he hasn't really made their situation any different which is what a #1 pick is supposed to do.[/QUOTE]
So, you think Derrick Williams would have been the correct pick? Those were the only two guys considered by anyone as a legitimate choice at No. 1. And, the Cavs' record has improved in each of Kyrie's first three years, including +12 in wins this past season.
[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]Lol yeah, if Kyrie was even decent you'd think he could avoid back2back #1 picks after he was drafted.
Dat dere defense doe.[/QUOTE]
There was a 1% chance of the Cavs getting this pick. lol
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]There was a 1% chance of the Cavs getting this pick. lol[/QUOTE]
1.7%, but yea...
[QUOTE=RedBlackAttack]There was a 1% chance of the Cavs getting this pick. lol[/QUOTE]
He's been out of the playoffs and on at least a 10th worst team in a historically bad conference 3 years running.
And as far as Kyries draft goes, I'm not sure it's right but Kemba took his team to the playoffs.
[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]And as far as Kyries draft goes, I'm not sure it's right but [B]Al Jefferson[/B] took his team to the playoffs.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
Ha, Kemba had just as good as or better numbers than Kyrie, he is the leader on that team, and only if he had the high lottery picks to work with that Kyrie has. Not to mention a coach and a center that has been to or won the Finals.
[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]He's been out of the playoffs and on at least a 10th worst team in a historically bad conference 3 years running.[/QUOTE]
Well, everyone seems to be in love with John Wall right now and Kyrie's Cavs have consistently been better than Wall's Wizards over their first three years in the league.
Doesn't happen overnight. Hell, Steph Curry was just a rookie and his team was 26-56 at Kyrie's age. And, he had a pretty nice, veteran roster around him, whereas Kyrie is surrounded by fellow 20 to 22-year-olds trying to find their way in the league.
I think you're being a bit narrow sighted... or trolling me, which is probably the reality. You can't possibly believe that Irving was the wrong pick in 2011. I just don't believe that you believe that, at the time or in retrospect.
[QUOTE=DeuceWallaces]Ha, Kemba had just as good as or better numbers than Kyrie, he is the leader on that team, and only if he had the high lottery picks to work with that Kyrie has. Not to mention a coach and a center that has been to or won the Finals.[/QUOTE]
Al Jefferson is easily the best player on that team and there are also a plethora of valuable veterans in that starting lineup and rotation logging heavy minutes (Gerald Henderson, Josh McRoberts, Jeffery Taylor, Ramon Sessions, Gary Neal, etc).
Completely and totally different situation.