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[QUOTE=Nanners]
is this sentence supposed to make sense? thank you for proving my point about how a college education is important in helping people form rational and coherent arguments. nobody is "forced" to go to college.[/QUOTE]
LOL there's the snobbery again.
Allow me to explain things in simple terms, that you are able to understand :)
A kid takes an English literature course, majors in English literature.
The professor tells the class to read Wuthering Heights.
The kid had no intentions of picking this book up before the professor made him. The kid only read the book because he was afraid of failing the course, not because he actually has a passion for gobbling up English literature. The kid did not engage in any critical thinking whilst reading the book, and instead just listened to his professors interpretation of things, in order to not fail the test that he knew was coming up.
The kid did not enjoy reading Wuthering Heights and did not critically engage with the story whilst reading it, because he was only reading it because someone else told him to read it, and because of his fear of failing the course.
How is that useful for anyone involved? That shit happens with so many kids at uni. If a kid doesn't have passion for learning, why should that kid be in university instead of doing something useful with their time? Oh wait, because the negative social stigma of not going to university. I wonder who benefits from that negative social stigma-oh wait that's right, state sponsored for-profit universities and colleges:banghead:
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It's ridiculous that some people on this board think that the simplistic arguing they do is similar to the thinking you get from an education. People on this board do the following.
1) Decide in advance their position.
2) Do really quick and pointed searching (not research) to find statement which back them up. List them out.
3) Never listen to the totality of anyone else's argument, never entertain the other argument might be right (and drawn from) and instead just pick at individual pieces they don't like. Using the same quick, non scientific searching for facts as in step 2.
"It's the same as college". Not really. In college you're forced to deal with other people's ideas and opinions and explain other people's thoughts, if you agree with them or not. You can't just dismiss them in summation like you do here.
People argue real life events on this board to the level of facebook conversations and act like they are experts on everything. It's pretty funny.
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[QUOTE=Nick Young]forreal dawg.
And if you question anything said in these MANDATORY feminism classes, you get shot down and yelled at by the professor and entire class, even if all you're doing as ASKING a question:lol
Uni ain't shit these days unless you're doing something useful like medicine, engineering or law.[/QUOTE]
makes sense that you are type of smug douchebag that asks smug douchehbag questions in a smug douchebag way during class and then pats himself on the back for teaching bad old teacher whats what while everyone else just shakes their head at what a smug douchebag you are.
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[QUOTE=kentatm]makes sense that you are type of smug douchebag that asks smug douchehbag questions in a smug douchebag way during class and then pats himself on the back for teaching bad old teacher whats what while everyone else just shakes their head at what a smug douchebag you are.[/QUOTE]
No. Actually I'd just politely ask questions when an opinion that was being taught as stone cold fact had several logical holes in it.
Now I am being mocked for asking questions in a university class, and questioning my surroundings-I thought that's what university was all about doe:hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:
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[QUOTE=Nick Young]do you think you learned things in these classes that you couldn't have learned if you had decided to take the initiative and do the research for yourself?:confusedshrug:
Universities back in the day encouraged genuine academic study. Now it's just all about hoop jumping.[/QUOTE]
I'm not convinced I would have taken the initiative myself.
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[QUOTE=Akrazotile]^ This sums it up nicely.
Nobody (in this thread) is discouraging learning. My point is that millions of kids are going into debt bc they buy education in a sellers market when they could achieve the same result going to the library for free. They think they "have to" go to college automatically or there is no hope for them ever making a decent income. Its become this ingrained mindset that nobody even questions anymore. Its a fallacy. The actual value of college tuition has become grossly over-inflated.[/QUOTE]
I definitely think colleges are taking advantage of students now that society expects degrees. They see that the youth feel they must go to college and will go no matter what the cost, so the colleges jack the prices year after year. Loan companies are also taking advantage.
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[QUOTE=Nick Young]Dawg, do female professional tennis players deserve to be payed the same as males, despite playing two sets less per match and drawing in less TV ratings and less money in terms of ticket sales?:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
if you honestly gave a shit i might have cause to answer
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[QUOTE]What's stopping you from talking about things with your friends? Why is talking to random ass kids in university more valuable then talking to normal kids who aren't in university? What's stopping anyone from doing this?[/QUOTE]
this is such a dumb argument
what we're suggesting to you is that school isn't about the resources. it's not a great place to learn new things because it has a bunch of books and computers and smart people hanging around. it promotes a culture of free exchange of persuasive and descriptive ideas that enlighten people with perspectives to which they hadn't already been exposed.
what's stopping you from learning quantum mechanics? all the information is out there, that much is obvious. and learning such a difficult science would clearly be useful for me in my life. but i don't bother to learn it... even though all the information is a button click away. why is that?
it's the same reason the majority of people i meet in this world aren't interested in literature. it's hard. to remove the humanities from advanced education would be suicide for those subjects of inquiry. they require an institutional structure as an incentive for people to discover them.
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[QUOTE=Nanners]if you really think you can achieve the same result by simply reading books at the library as you get taking classes where you have group discussions and receive feedback on your thoughts from an expert in the field.... well, its not hard to see why you had to drop out of OSU[/QUOTE]
I guess it all depends. For me, having a group discussion with a classroom full of people like you everyday would not be worth 5-10k a year, as it would actually reduce my intellect.
But hey man, pay whatever you want for group discussion. Or rather, whatever they want. It's your dime.
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[QUOTE=Akrazotile]I guess it all depends. For me, having a group discussion with a classroom full of people like you everyday would not be worth 5-10k a year, as it would actually reduce my intellect.
But hey man, pay whatever you want for group discussion. Or rather, whatever they want. It's your dime.[/QUOTE]
yeah i can see how you wouldnt like having a group discussion with people like me, you do seem to hate people who actually call you out on the weak ass bullshit arguments you are always throwing around. as you probably learned first hand at OSU before you dropped out, in college you cant respond to another students/teachers argument with your usual rebuttal "you are wrong cuz your just another dumb sheep and puzzy ass liberal".
i wouldnt worry about reducing your intellect though, doubt thats even possible. its like dividing by zero or some shit.
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the snobbish middle class elitism grows strong in this thread:lol
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I learnt a lot at Uni, applied it in practical classes weekly, and got accredited to do the career I thought I wanted when I applied. If that's what I had wanted to do (Biomedical Science), it was perfect.
Honestly, even if I hadn't known what I wanted to do, I'd have gone anyway. People who go to uni earn more on average. I got the job I have now because I have a degree, it set me apart. Could I have got it without? Probably, but based on the people in my job at the same level, it would have taken me until I was about 24. I'm 2 years ahead, and had 3 years to **** about, drink a shitload of booze and learn about something I enjoyed (even if I didn't want a career in it).
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[QUOTE=NumberSix]Feminism is pretty much ugly women hating on pretty women and promoting Marxism/communism.[/QUOTE]
:biggums:
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The leaks are really bringing out the SJW's and feminazi's.
All these people talking about how looking at leaked pictures should qualify as sexual molestation. I wonder how many of them looked at Anthony Weiner's leaked pictures and leaked text messages and criticized him for it, and if they consider themselves sex offenders now?
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[QUOTE=LJJ]The leaks are really bringing out the SJW's and feminazi's.
All these people talking about how looking at leaked pictures should qualify as sexual molestation. I wonder how many of them looked at Anthony Weiner's leaked pictures and leaked text messages and criticized him for it, and if they consider themselves sex offenders now?[/QUOTE]
It's stupid, the reason there aren't more male nude pictures is they couldn't find them. Especially if they were sexually explicit. A LIst male actor trumps C list female idol easily in terms of attention. Me just don't send those type of pictures or keep them on their phone. Plus these are all young girls, they are sending the pictures, men again don't do that.