Re: Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final
[QUOTE=Euroleague][B]I hope to God you really are trolling[/B]. Because if you really believe Kentucky could stay within 30-40 points of CSKA or Olympiacos, you are without any doubt the biggest moron of all time in this forum.[/QUOTE]
OK being 100% realistic, Kentucky would obviously get destroyed by any pro EU team.
But an NBA bench would shit on any EU team so hard, they'd be ****ing buried
Re: Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final
He hit some really big shots down the end to take his team to the final. 2013 all over again.
Re: Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final
Let's be real. Kentucky would have completed a perfect season if they played in the Euroleague and won each game by double digits.
:kobe:
Re: Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final
[QUOTE=Euroleague]That's funny, because if they based things in the NBA on that stat, Kobe would have been considered one of the worst players of all time.
STOP TROLLING[/QUOTE]
***** please, kobe is clearly a top 15 player of all time
Re: Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final
[QUOTE=oarabbus]OK being 100% realistic, Kentucky would obviously get destroyed by any pro EU team.
But an NBA bench would shit on any EU team so hard, they'd be ****ing buried[/QUOTE]
The four teams (Real, Oly, CSKA and Fener) are playoff teams in the NBA. Under Euroleague rules, they would have a shot at the conference finals.
Under NBA rules they are still playoff teams.
CSKA beat the Wolves last year I believe.
Granted, NBA teams are better, nobody contests that.
But Euroleague teams are right behind.
Re: Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final
[QUOTE=Optimus Prime]Let's be real. Kentucky would have completed a perfect season if they played in the Euroleague and won each game by double digits.
:kobe:[/QUOTE]
Kentucky would have been lucky to win 2 games in the season, even being put in the worst group of the whole league.
And most likely, they would have went 0-10.
Every single team in the Euroleague, even the very worst team, would have easily went through the NCAA tournament and won it.
Stop being stupid.
Re: Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final
[QUOTE=ISHGoat]***** please, kobe is clearly a top 15 player of all time[/QUOTE]
Kobe is much better than top 15. What is your point?
He was using the Larry Bird plus minus hockey stat they use in the Spanish League all the time.
The only people that actually really care about that stat are idiots. That was my point. I've honestly never heard of a player or coach even think of it during a game.
It's just some kind of trivial stupid stat that some people in Europe are obsessed with. Point being, the way it is configured, players like Kobe would be considered hot trash of all time.
It's a nonsense stat and really only people that know jack about basketball even care about it.
Re: Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final
[QUOTE=fandarko]The four teams (Real, Oly, CSKA and Fener) are playoff teams in the NBA. Under Euroleague rules, they would have a shot at the conference finals.
Under NBA rules they are still playoff teams.
CSKA beat the Wolves last year I believe.
Granted, NBA teams are better, nobody contests that.
But Euroleague teams are right behind.[/QUOTE]
Probably right, it's still a very talented and highly rated professional league.
Re: Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final
[QUOTE=fandarko]The four teams (Real, Oly, CSKA and Fener) are playoff teams in the NBA. Under Euroleague rules, they would have a shot at the conference finals.
Under NBA rules they are still playoff teams.
CSKA beat the Wolves last year I believe.
Granted, NBA teams are better, nobody contests that.
But Euroleague teams are right behind.[/QUOTE]
I know Fener beat the Celtics (when they were still decent) and almost beat the Spurs, but I'm not sold on them making NBA playoffs. I think it would depend on them being in the Eastern conference.
I think in Western conference they would be in same level as teams like Suns, Pelicans, Mavs after they got Rondo, etc. So no sure thing for them if they were in that good conference. They simply are a terrible team on defense. If they were in the East? Sure.
But they are not at the same level at all as a team like Barca, which just did not make the final four because they got matched with Olympiacos in the playoffs. Barca is much more typical Euroleague elite level team like Real, Olympiacos, CSKA than Fener is. And would be more the kind of team that would for sure make NBA playoffs, because they know how to play real defense.
Re: Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final
Okay, so Spanoulis could be intriguing. You just don't lead teams this many times to the EL Finals and win FMVP without being a good player.
So the question is--when is Vspan coming over to the NBA? What is his contract status?
Re: Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final
[QUOTE=fandarko]The four teams (Real, Oly, CSKA and Fener) are playoff teams in the NBA. Under Euroleague rules, they would have a shot at the conference finals.
Under NBA rules they are still playoff teams.
CSKA beat the Wolves last year I believe.
Granted, NBA teams are better, nobody contests that.
But Euroleague teams are right behind.[/QUOTE]
In a league where Goudeluck is a GREAT player:oldlol: :roll:
Wake up Bruh:eek:
Kentucky will mopped those Final Four teams:cheers:
Re: Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final
[QUOTE=Euroleague][B]He's Michael Jordan of Euroleague [I]at minimum[/I].[/B] Same effect Jordan had, only with vastly inferior team, with much harder defense rules, much more strict refs, and against other teams that are much better than his team by comparison.[/QUOTE]
:roll:
You really didn't think this through, did you. If a 3ppg NBA bench warmer is the MJ of Euroleague [I]at minimum[/I], what does that say about the level of competition over there? Your arguments have as many holes as swiss cheese.
Re: Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final
[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]Player Index Rating vs CSKA Moscow:
Printezis = 22
Spanoulos = 3
Carried :coleman:
Not to mention 54% shooting vs 26% :coleman: :coleman:[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
The same Printezis would laugh at this.
Stats never tell the whole story.
Stats do not show that CSKA double/triple teamed Spanoulis the whole game, taking off defensive pressure, and allowing open looks for his teammates.
Stats do not show the confidence boost that Spanoulis gave to teammates and crowd, when he started hitting every single shot he took in the last 4 minutes. When the pressure was at max. When it mattered most.
Stats do not show the terror in the eyes of CSKA players, when Spanoulis started hitting those shots. They knew better than anyone else what was going to happen. Besides, it was the third time in the last 4 years that they lost to the same team, the same player, in the same way.
Watch the game, not the stats.
Re: Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final
[QUOTE=Dr.J4ever]Okay, so Spanoulis could be intriguing. You just don't lead teams this many times to the EL Finals and win FMVP without being a good player.
So the question is--when is Vspan coming over to the NBA? What is his contract status?[/QUOTE]
Nah, he is not coming.
Too old now. And even if he was not, after the terrible experience at Houston (but also for his own faults), he would never try it again.
Re: Spanoulis takes Olimpiakos to Euroleague final
the nba is my favorite league but living in spain i watch plenty of EL.
if youre a basket fan you should try the same, its much funner than trolling, unless youre mostly an internet fan and basketball is just a mean for social interactiob you otherwise lack in day to day.
theres 3-4 teams every year in europe that could make the PO in the NBA, providing they could automatically adapt to the difference in rules there is no question about it, one could even make it as 8th in the west. Every team in the top 16 in EL has a Spurs mentality, thats why Spurs get called european, said system doesnt rely on individual talent but basketball execution. Spurs beat Miami everyone forgot suddenly?
after that there is a quality step. Theres about 10 teams in the nba that would have notable winning records if they played against EL sides, rarelly losing and most definetely dominating the opposition.
EL teams might not have the talent but talent doesnt win championships. And Im not talking about PO teams in the nba, those are the best teams in the world, but theres plenty of EL sides that would make it in this year's east no question.
ncaa and dleague comparisons are out
of the equation. It wasnt long ago Barcelona beat Lakers, albeit in a friendly, but no college kids would accomplish anything remotely close.