Team possessions per game (pace) divided by team apg = possesions per assist

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Dude your stat make no sense. Lebrons teams got worse when he left and got better when was on the team your just making yourself look stupid. Jordans team got better at this stat when he left.

[QUOTE=Bankaii]Are you even looking your own stats? Everything you just said is horribly wrong.
The Heat went DOWN .20 the years after Lebron JOINED.
The Cavs went UP .35 when Lebron LEFT.
The Cavs went back DOWN .23 when Lebron JOINED again.

Otoh the Bulls IMPROVED by .11 in 1995 when Jordan was OUT from any other season Jordan played(1995 when he missed the season was the lowest, not 1992.)

In case you're too stupid to realize. Lebron's team were worse when he left.
While Jordan's team got better when he left.

Now admit you're a dumbass and your fake stat backfired and did nothing but prove Jordan is more ball dominant than Bron, dumbass.[/QUOTE]
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Hmm, seems like another correlation could be, better supporting casts fair better at this stat as well.

[QUOTE=TripleA]Dude your stat make no sense. [B]Lebrons teams got worse when he left and got better when was on the team[/B] your just making yourself look stupid. Jordans team got better at this stat when he left.[/QUOTE]
Not true - the 2003 Cavs were at 4.50, which is better than 4.72 for the 2006 Cavs... The 2015 Heat were at 4.59, which is the same as they were in 2011 and 2012 with Lebron.

But this doesn't matter anyway, because the sample size of instances where Lebron left a team is small.

Otoh, we have a massive sample to compare Lebron's teams with MJ's Bulls and other teams, present and former... And clearly, Lebron's teams assist at frequency that is far below-average... MJ's teams assisted way more, so did Magic's, so does Duncan's and Steph Curry - everyone's team assists better than Lebron's teams.. :confusedshrug:

No surprise all those teams were flat out better teams.....

[QUOTE=sdot_thadon]No surprise all those teams were flat out better teams.....[/QUOTE]
We have a massive sample to compare Lebron's teams with MJ's Bulls and other teams, present and former.. And clearly, Lebron's teams assist at frequency that is far below-average.

MJ's teams assisted way more, so did Magic's, so does Duncan's and Steph Curry - it seems like EVERYONE'S team assists better than Lebron's teams.. :confusedshrug:

So don't ever say, or even think, that Lebron's teams are great-passing teams... They're not... In MJ's case, we should EXPECT his teams to pass way better.. After all, what's more optimal for a team - to have a guy that gets 30 in a low-assisted fashion, or a guy that gets 30 in a high-assisted fashion.. :rolleyes:... MJ is so much >>

[QUOTE=3ball]Sorry bud.. :confusedshrug: ... Accept defeat.. The stats are what they are..

For Lebron's entire 11-year career, every single one of his teams assisted FAR less frequently than MJ's teams.. Like, the stats aren't close, and the sample isn't small.. It's every single year of both player's careers.[/QUOTE]
Lol the deflection is real.
The only time Lebron made his team "worse" by your made up stat was his rookie year.
While MJ was hurting his team throughout the entire of his Bulls career and they had their best year when he was out in one of his PRIME years.

Hold the L fgt, I'm done responding. I just took a shit on your fake stat and now you're just going to deflect and make up more bullshit.

[QUOTE=3ball]Nah bud... Team possessions per game/Team apg is a real stat.. And clearly, Lebron's teams assist at frequency that is far below-average.

Magic's teams assisted far more frequently, so did Bird's teams, so did MJ's teams, so does Duncan's and Steph Curry - basically EVERYONE'S team assists better than Lebron's teams.. :confusedshrug:

So don't ever say, [I]or even think[/I], that Lebron's teams are great-passing teams... They're not...

In MJ's case, we should EXPECT his teams to pass way better.. After all, what's more optimal for a team - to have a guy that gets 30 in a low-assisted fashion, or a guy that gets 30 in a high-assisted fashion.. :rolleyes:... MJ is so much >>[/QUOTE]

It's ironic that LeBron gets praise for having assist numbers yet his team is low in assists per possessions. Fans that "get it" know that LeBron's assist numbers don't translate to team basketball and are just boosted because of LeBron's excessive ball domination.

[QUOTE=3ball]Sorry bud.. :confusedshrug: ... Accept defeat.. The stats are what they are..

For Lebron's entire 11-year career, every single one of his teams assisted FAR less frequently than MJ's teams.. Like, the stats aren't close, and the sample isn't small.. It's every single year of both player's careers.[/QUOTE]

I dig your gifs bro, but bankaii just served you up. Take the L, and move forward amigo.

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]I dig your gifs bro, but bankaii just served you up. Take the L, and move forward amigo.[/QUOTE]
Only a someone that can't understand statistics would think he had a point - the sample size of instances where Lebron left a team is small and the change in assist frequency goes both ways.. Same thing for when MJ left his teams.

Otoh, we have a massive sample to compare Lebron's teams to other teams, present and former... And clearly, Lebron's teams assist at frequency that is far below-average... Duncan's teams assisted way more, so did Magic's, MJ's, Bird's, Steph Curry's - [I]everyone's[/I] team assists better than Lebron's teams..

[I]So don't ever say, or even think, that Lebron's teams are great-passing teams... They're not.. Everyone else's team assists FAR more frequently.
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In MJ's case, we should EXPECT his teams to pass way better.. After all, what's more optimal for a team - to have a guy that gets 26 points in a low-assisted fashion, or a guy that gets 32 in a high-assisted fashion.. ... MJ is so much >>

^ 3ball deleted and reposted this every 5 mins for the last hour

no life :lol






oh and 1-9

[QUOTE=Bankaii]

While MJ was hurting his team throughout the entire of his Bulls career and they had their best year when he was out in one of his PRIME years.

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[B]You're lying about the numbers - surely you know that anyone can go check[/B]

MJ's Bulls had a better assist frequency in 1992 and 1993 (3.40 and 3.56 possessions per assist) than they did in 1994 (3.59).

When he returned, their assist frequency went back up to 3.45 in 1997... So you lied - MJ improved the team - but again, these numbers are meaningless without a bigger sample size.

The only thing we have a big sample size about is TEAM COMPARISONS - and when we compare Lebron's teams to anyone else's teams, we see that Lebron's teams assist at a frequency that's FAR below-average and FAR below all of his peers.. Duncan's teams, Magic's teams, Bird's teams, MJ's teams, Steph Curry's teams - [I]everyone's[/I] team assists more frequently than Lebron's.


[QUOTE=Bankaii]

The only time Lebron made his team "worse" by your made up stat was his rookie year.

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That's right - the Cavs assisted MORE frequently before Lebron got there in 2004.

And when Lebron left the Cavs in 2011, it wasn't just him leaving... The Cavs lost Mo Williams, Shaquille O'Neal, Zydrunas Illgauskas, Anderson Varejao and Delonte West - so are you going to give credit to the departure of these guys for reducing assist frequency, or are you going to give all the credit to Lebron?

So again, we don't have a good sample size for the instances when MJ or Lebron were added to a team or removed from a team.

The only thing we have a big sample size about is TEAM COMPARISONS - and when we compare Lebron's teams to anyone else's teams, we see that Lebron's teams assist at a frequency that's FAR below-average and FAR below all of his peers.

[QUOTE=dubeta]^ 3ball deleted and reposted this every 5 mins for the last hour

no life :lol






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You're still salty because oldschool murdered you in the other thread... brush it off brah.. you should be used to it

3ball,

I was under the impression these stats were correct:

[quote]The Heat went DOWN .20 the years after Lebron JOINED.
The Cavs went UP .35 when Lebron LEFT.
The Cavs went back DOWN .23 when Lebron JOINED again.

Otoh the Bulls IMPROVED by .11 in 1995 when Jordan was OUT from any other season Jordan played(1995 when he missed the season was the lowest, not 1992.)[/quote]

If what you said is TRUE, and he intentially posted wrong numbers, then I'll admit I jumped the gun. Otherwise? How does this NOT go against what you claimed in your OP? :confusedshrug:

3ball begging for our attention, keep deleting those posts bud :lol

Maybe someday Jordan will read them



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