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[QUOTE=dubeta]When did they gameplan against Jordan?
[B]I don't think any team in the league specifically 'gameplanned' against Jordan pre 1991[/B]
They knew that good teams won, and not individual players
Heck, [I]do you believe the Celtics gameplanned against Jordan when he scored 63? :oldlol: [/I]
They allowed him to statpad and he got swept, multiple times
Jordan couldnt win with scoring over and over, that had already been proven previously
Once Pippen ran the offense, teams gameplanned to stop him, [I]because stopping him meant stopping the entire triangle, as the offense ran through him[/I]. Jordan? they allowed him to score, the "Jordan Rules" was fabricated media nonsense that tried to take attention from the key defensive issues.[/QUOTE]
You cannot be this stupid. You can't.
But you are.
Oh, and MJ got swept twice--both times by one of the greatest teams of all time, while his team was weak as [COLOR="Black"]f[/COLOR]uck. Bron, on the other hand, got swept by the 2007 Spurs, who aren't on many people's list of all time great teams.
And NO team ever game planned to stop Scottie. Stop trying to revise history in which you never even witness, bitch.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Rules[/url]
Wow, this was a plan that was in place pre-1991.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLv2F33snCE[/url]
Oh, shit, look at that planning for MJ!
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GYKrcM1k0U[/url]
Damn, are these ex-Pistons talking about the Jordan Rules?
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[QUOTE=ClipperRevival]You watched the documentary and didn't see the parts I was talking about? You are a worse Pip fan than I thought.[/QUOTE]
He's not a Pippen fan. He's a Jordan hater disguised as a Bulls and Pippen fan. And he's rather pathetic.
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[QUOTE=Mr Feeny]He's not a Pippen fan. He's a Jordan hater disguised as a Bulls and Pippen fan. And he's rather pathetic.[/QUOTE]
What makes me a Jordan hater? Beause i dont feel he won 6 championships by himself?
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[QUOTE=97 bulls]What makes me a Jordan hater? Beause i dont feel he won 6 championships by himself?[/QUOTE]
yes. you hating hater. why arent you sucking off MJ like the rest of us?
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97 bulls is the only rational poster from the 90's here
The rest have gone senile/delusional and cannot resort to any rational discussion about Pippen's Bulls
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[QUOTE=Kobe_6/8]Dennis Rodman biography from 1996
[I][B]We'd target Pippen[/B] and make sure Michael didn't have a lot of help.[/I]
[I]Scottie impressed me when I first got to Chicago. He's better when you're playing with him than against him.[/I]
[I]I pushed Scottie from the back and he landed on his chin in the first row. He has a nasty scar. I don't expect Scottie to forgive me or forget about that.[/I]
[I]Scottie took himself out of the game after that incident. He got freaked out by me. All of the sudden he had a migraine headache. A lot of people think he was faking, but I think it was real. Maybe he had Rodman on the brain.[/I]
[I]I was doing my job, making Scottie think about what he had to do tomorrow to make up for his mistakes today.[/I][/QUOTE]
Idk, mangs. When I read stuff like this it makes me think they did try to stop Pippen as well. Or is Rodman lying, too.
:confusedshrug:
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[SIZE="5"]This was the consensus about Pippen:[/SIZE]
[B]Bill Laimbeer[/B]:
[INDENT]"[I]The Jordan Rules were to just stop him, because no one else could beat you on that ballclub[/I]"
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2v0LOhjsJs&t=1m22s[/url][/INDENT]
[B]Chuck Daly[/B]:
[INDENT][I]"It doesn't entail me playing you necessarily... it's our 5.... playing... you."[/I]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gCMWuCdsGQ&t=27m41s[/url][/INDENT]
[B]Chuck Daly:[/B]
[INDENT]"[I]We knew how dangerous he was and we knew going into the playoffs that we had to do something special.. So we most definitely devised what we called "the Jordan Rules[/I]""
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIY_4vIxGEE&t=22m49s[/url][/INDENT]
[B]Bill Laimbeer[/B]:
[INDENT]"[I]We didn't even think about Scottie Pippen. It was Michael Jordan and the Jordannaires - and you can't win championships like that with only 1 player[/I]."
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqC74bv46Z8&t=1h07m33s[/url][/INDENT]
[B]Shaquille O'Neal:[/B]
[I][INDENT]"You did okay, but MJ did most of the work"
"Remember I WAS BATMAN YOU WAS ROBIN , I was PUFFY YOU WAS MASE"
"See what happens when Michael Jordan ain't protecting you, you lose a 17 pt lead in the fourth quarter." (referring to 2000 WCF Game 7)[/INDENT][/I]
[B]Phil Jackson[/B]:
[INDENT]"[I]Don't leave Michael all alone here. It's not [COLOR="Red"]TIME[/COLOR] yet[/I]."
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgJhzj4W9M&t=30m20s[/url]
This was Phil Jackson during a huddle in the 1991 NBA Finals, showing how the everyday game plan was to leave Michael alone and let him do everything down the stretch of games.[/INDENT]
[B]Dumars and Isiah[/B]:
[INDENT]"[I]Isiah said he sat out by the water for 4-5 hours (thinking about MJ)[/I]".
"[I]Dumars and i were on the phone for hours, talking about 23 in red[/I]."
"[I]Isiah called me at 3 in the morning and said 'I think i finally figured out a way to stop MJ[/I]"
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqC74bv46Z8&t=1h05m33s[/url]
This was Dumars' and Isiah's reaction to the Bulls taking 2-1 series lead in 1989 ECF after MJ hit GW over Rodman.. The last quote is from assistant coach Brendan Malone, who said that Isiah called at 3 am to talk about stopping MJ.[/INDENT]
[B]Reporter Pat O'Brien in 1989[/B], confirming that Chuck Daly's championship defense was about stopping [U]1 guy[/U] via the "Jordan Rules":
[indent][url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2v0LOhjsJs&t=3m27s[/url][/indent]
[b]Horace Grant[/b]:
[INDENT][I]"If it wasn't for MJ, I don't think I'd be sitting here right now. I mean, would've had a decent career, but for a leader like that to lead you to 3 championships..."
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_aYOQVWSCY&t=14m44s[/url][/INDENT][/I]
[B]Scottie Pippen[/B]:
[INDENT]"[I]It was the pressure. As the pressure grew, the pounding grew. I wasn't able to answer the bell[/I]."
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqC74bv46Z8&t=1h22m15s[/url]
This was Pippen in the Bad Boys documentary ADMITTING he the pressure caused him to disappear in 1990 ECF Game 7 - this cost the Bulls a trip to the Finals and the ring - (Bulls would've beaten Blazers - Blazers only took Pistons 6, while Bulls took then 7.[/INDENT]
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[QUOTE=Spurs5Rings2014]
Idk, mangs. When I read stuff like this it makes me think they did try to stop Pippen as well.
[/QUOTE]
Rodman is talking about trash talking Pippen to mentally intimidate him because Pippen was weak mentally.. See the quotes in previous post - that's the consensus on Pippen.
The defensive focus and double-teaming involved in the "[I]Jordan Rules[/I]" had nothing to do with Pippen.. The tactics were never called the "[I]Pippen Rules[/I]"... Pippen was never a factor, so focusing defensive attention on Pippen would be dumb - against the Pistons, Pippen averaged:
[I]1988 ECSF[/I]: 9 ppg on 42%
[I]1989 ECF[/I]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 10 ppg on 40%
Then he had the epic choke in Game 7 of 1990 ECF, which cost the Bulls their first championship - they would've beaten the Blazers in the Finals since the Pistons beat the Blazers in 6, but needed 7 and Pippen choke to beat Bulls.
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Just checked in only to see Jordan fam winning as usual.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/vvLM2Oe.gif[/img]
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Isiah Thomas, one of the GOAT leaders and killers ever. Of course the advanced stat geeks that never picked up a bball will say he's overrated, but guys who actually played and competed at a high level and know that the human element is something that can't be grasped unless if you actually played, will realize his value. The only small, PG ever to win 2 titles as "the man" in the most top heavy era ever for top tier teams.
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This era is weak. Flopping is a joke. Flagrant 1s are a joke. If you grew up when I did, you just KNOW this.