Lebron's time of possession in 2015 Finals was 50% higher than RS leader

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[B]If MJ starts shooting 45 he'll draw more defensive attention.[/B] This will bring his % down. When it goes down enough he will be forced to pass to the open man or pass it out. But Who is he passing to? Who else will score on the Cavs?

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If Lebron shot 45%, the Cavs would've won easily - Jordan would be no different.

But at 39%, it benefited the Warriors every time Lebron shot and made no sense to double-team him.

[I]So obviously, if MJ shoots 45% and starts getting doubled - that's better than what Lebron did.. That's what Lebron was TRYING TO DO - he was trying to shoot 45%, since that would've yielded better results obviously..
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Unfortunately, I have to explain these basics to you, because your bias has made you irrational... "[I]B-b-b-but if MJ shoots 45%, then he'll get doubled and have to pass[/I]"... wtf???... Again, Lebron was TRYING to shoot 45%, but he couldn't - so if MJ shot actually DID shoot 45%, that would be better than what Lebron did.. The Cavs win if MJ shoots 45%, just like they would've won if Lebron had shot 45%.

[QUOTE=3ball]If Lebron shot 45%, the Cavs would've won easily - Jordan would be no different.

But at 39%, it benefited the Warriors every time Lebron shot and made no sense to double-team him.

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Hey imbecile, did you even check Cavs production without LeBron on the floor in those finals ? :facepalm

Are You Telling Me That Lebron Handled The Ball With His Go To Offensive Player Being Mathew Friggin Delledova

Shocking

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Hey imbecile, did you even check Cavs production without LeBron on the floor in those finals ?

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What does your post ^^^^ have to do with the reality that the Cavs would've won easily of Lebron shot better than his abysmal 39%??

Or that Lebron needed 50% more time of possession than anyone got all year to achieve his stats?

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[B]Are You Telling Me[/B] That Lebron Handled The Ball With His Go To Offensive Player Being Mathew Friggin Delledova

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No, I'm telling you the Cavs would've won easily if Lebron shot better than 39% - that's obvious.

And I'm also telling you that Lebron needed 50% more time of possession than anyone got all year to achieve his stats - this is utterly amazing and completely invalidates his stats (although running stat-padding clearouts every possession was never a respectable way to accumulate stats anyway).

Whole thread premise is incredibly stupid. You're arguing what? That time of possession is more critical to stats than actual number of possessions? Cause its definitely possible to score multiple times in a possession if you just hold the ball longer....:rolleyes: So if for whatever reason lebron has the same series but only holds the ball 45% of the time it's somehow more impressive? Clown shoes goin clown shoes.

[QUOTE=3ball]Horseshit - a team should still play like a team when they lose their top guys - they shouldn't just clearout everytime for the best player like it's AAU.. This is what the Cavs did and this is why I can't respect Lebron's stats (although thee 39% already prevented any respect level)

Btw, I'm cherry-picking Lebron's 39%?

[B]Again, do you think the Cavs still lose if Lebron shoots 45%+, or are you saying MJ couldn't have shot 45%[/B]?[/QUOTE]
Do the Cavs still lose if J.R Smith shoots 37% instead of 31%? (3P% 29)
Dellavedova shoots 34% instead of 28%? (3P% 28)
Shumpert 31% instead of 25%? (3P% 32)


What was MJ's shooting % in his 5th consecutive Finals appearance?

[QUOTE=3ball]No, I'm telling you the Cavs would've won easily if Lebron shot better than 39% - that's obvious.

[B]And I'm also telling you that Lebron needed 50% more time of possession than anyone got all year to achieve his stats[/B] - this is utterly amazing and completely invalidates his stats (although running stat-padding clearouts every possession was never a respectable way to accumulate stats anyway).[/QUOTE]
Which players last season faced GS and their number 1 defense (6 straight games) w/o their 2nd and 3rd best players?

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You're arguing what? That time of possession is more critical to stats than actual number of possessions? Cause its definitely possible to score multiple times in a possession if you just hold the ball longer....

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It's easier to score when you have more time to decide what to do and can wait for the right spot.

In Lebron's case, he had 50% more time of possession than anyone had all year - his 12.0 minutes per game was 50% higher than the regular season league-leader, John Wall's 8.2 minutes..

Such a ridiculous time of possession is ****ing amazing, and it invalidates his stats (the stat-padding clearouts on every possession and 39% shooting also invalidated his stats)..

Keep it real bro - 50% higher time of possession is insane and very likely the record, BY A MILE
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo]Which players last season faced GS and their number 1 defense (6 straight games) w/o their 2nd and 3rd best players?[/QUOTE]
Do you realize that Lebron had 50% more time of possession than the regular season leader?... Do you know how RIDICULOUS that is?... Tbh, it should've been a media story, but the media isn't that smart.

MJ took the same number of shots on MANY playoff runs, yet he never held the ball forever or played with a point-guard-level time of possession like Lebron.

MJ was far more skilled, so he didn't need so much time with the ball to score.

But for Lebron - such a ridiculous time of possession is ****ing amazing, and it invalidates his stats (the stat-padding clearouts on every possession and 39% shooting also invalidated his stats)..

3ball is rustlin some jimmies in this thread :roll:

[QUOTE=3ball][B]Do you realize that Lebron had 50% more time of possession than the regular season leader?... Do you know how RIDICULOUS that is?[/B]... Tbh, it should've been a media story, but the media isn't that smart.

MJ took the same number of shots on MANY playoff runs, yet he never held the ball forever or played with a point-guard-level time of possession like Lebron.

MJ was far more skilled, so he didn't need so much time with the ball to score.

But for Lebron - such a ridiculous time of possession is ****ing amazing, and it invalidates his stats (the stat-padding clearouts on every possession and 39% shooting also invalidated his stats)..[/QUOTE]
LOL @ comparing someones RS numbers to another players Finals numbers cause we all know those RS situations are always the same and comparable.

:hammerhead: DUMB

[QUOTE=3ball][B]It's easier to score when you have more time to decide what to do and can wait for the right spot.[/B]

In Lebron's case, he had 50% more time of possession than anyone had all year - his 12.0 minutes per game was 50% higher than the regular season league-leader, John Wall's 8.2 minutes..

Such a ridiculous time of possession is ****ing amazing, and it invalidates his stats (the stat-padding clearouts on every possession and 39% shooting also invalidated his stats)..

Keep it real bro - 50% higher time of possession is insane and very likely the record, BY A MILE
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Then why is the fastbreak so cherished? Are you insinuating that the 80's Lakers teams etc... would have been better off slowing down the pace so they could have more time to decide how to get the best shot?

[QUOTE=Hey Yo]Do the Cavs still lose if J.R Smith shoots 37% instead of 31%? (3P% 29)
Dellavedova shoots 34% instead of 28%? (3P% 28)
Shumpert 31% instead of 25%? (3P% 32)


What was MJ's shooting % in his 5th consecutive Finals appearance?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hey Yo]LOL @ comparing someones RS numbers to another players Finals numbers cause we all know those RS situations are always the same and comparable.

:hammerhead: DUMB[/QUOTE]
Lebron's 12.0 minutes of possession time was 20% higher than the playoff leader (John Wall's 10.1 minutes) and 50% higher than the regular season leader (John Wall's 8.3 minutes).. Again, that's ****ing amazing.

You're aware that teams don't win championships that way right?... Teams don't win rings with 1 player having 12 minutes of possession time, or 50% more time than the league leader.. So Lebron was in complete stat-padding mode with the entire game set up for him to accumulate stats, yet he still only shot 39%.

Such a massive time of possession invalidates his stats... Of course, the stat-padding clearouts on every possession and 39% shooting also invalidated his stats.