Re: Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...
[QUOTE=3ball][B]The [url=https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/paine-datalab-lebron-cast-2.png]538 rankings[/url] show that MJ's casts rank far lower than Lebron's 2012 and 2013 casts,
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False. Jordan s casts are near the top.
[IMG]https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/paine-datalab-lebron-cast-2.png[/IMG]
Re: Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]
I guess I'm in the minority on this board that just doesn't give a **** about Bosh's 20 ppg seasons in Toronto.
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[SIZE="3"]You missed my edit:[/SIZE]
[I]Those stats are about equal, and Bosh's stats were easily better than Grant's [B]when you include the other 90% of their time [U]as 3rd options[/U][/B]..
[I]But more importantly, Bosh was an all-star both years, while Grant wasn't - [COLOR="Navy"]so Bosh was considered a top forward in his conference, and therefore better relative to his competition than Grant [/COLOR][/I]..
Overall Bosh was a 10-time top forward in his conference (all-star), compared to once for Grant.. So try again bud.[/I]
Re: Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...
Re: Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...
[QUOTE=livinglegend]
False, they are near the top.
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[B]The [url=https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/paine-datalab-lebron-cast-2.png]538 rankings[/url] show that MJ's 1991 and 1993 casts rank far lower than Lebron's 2012 and 2013 casts, which means MJ won with less than Lebron won with... MJ was capable of winning with less..
[I][COLOR="DarkRed"]Could MJ have won with Lebron's 2007 or 2015 casts?[/COLOR][/I]... Probably, since he would've scored a lot more and he would've shot much better than 35% and 39%, respectively.[/B]
Re: Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...
Jordan 1-9 without Pippen.
Pippen won 55 games without Jordan.
No other superstar in their prime had a team that won 55 games without him.
Jordan had the most stacked team of all-time...
Re: Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...
[QUOTE=3ball][B]The [url=https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/paine-datalab-lebron-cast-2.png]538 rankings[/url] show that MJ casts rank far lower than Lebron's 2012 and 2013 casts,
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False.
[IMG]https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/paine-datalab-lebron-cast-2.png[/IMG]
Re: Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...
[QUOTE=livinglegend]
No other superstar in their prime had a team that could win 55 games without him.
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No other team had 3-peat chemistry, teamwork and system - if they did, they would win 55 games with marginal talent too..
But the Bulls were exposed in the playoffs - 3-peat chemistry could only get them to the 2nd Round - they simply lacked talent.
Furthermore, the 94' Bulls weren't going to rebound from their 2nd Round defeat and do better the next year - they were a 2nd Round team PERMANENTLY without Jordan, after being a 3-peat dynasty with him.
[COLOR="Navy"][I]Now if we were running an experiment to see if MJ's impact was [U]truly[/U] 3-peat to 2nd Round, we would have him come back and see if he could 3-peat again.... VIOLA!!!!... Done and done.. Confirmed 2nd Round to 3-peat impact.[/I][/COLOR]
[COLOR="White"]this is getting so easy[/COLOR]
Re: Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...
[QUOTE=livinglegend]
False, they are near the top.
[/QUOTE]
[B]The [url=https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/paine-datalab-lebron-cast-2.png]538 rankings[/url] show that MJ's 1991 and 1993 casts rank far lower than Lebron's 2012 and 2013 casts, which means MJ won with less than Lebron won with... MJ was capable of winning with less..
[I][COLOR="DarkRed"]Could MJ have won with Lebron's 2007 or 2015 casts?[/COLOR][/I]... Probably, since he would've scored a lot more and he would've shot much better than 35% and 39%, respectively..[/B]
Re: Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...
[QUOTE=livinglegend]
No other superstar in their prime had a team that could win 55 games without him.
[/QUOTE]
No other team had 3-peat chemistry, teamwork and system - if they did, they would win 55 games with marginal talent too..
But the Bulls were exposed in the playoffs - 3-peat chemistry could only get them to the 2nd Round - they simply lacked talent.
Furthermore, the 94' Bulls weren't going to rebound from their 2nd Round defeat and do better the next year - they were a 2nd Round team PERMANENTLY without Jordan, after being a 3-peat dynasty with him.
[COLOR="Navy"][I]Now if we were running an experiment to see if MJ's impact was [U]truly[/U] 3-peat to 2nd Round, we would have him come back and see if he could 3-peat again.... VIOLA!!!!... Done and done.. Confirmed 2nd Round to 3-peat impact.[/I][/COLOR]
[COLOR="White"]this is getting so easy.[/COLOR]
Re: Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...
[QUOTE=3ball]No other team had 3-peat chemistry, teamwork and system -[B] if they did, they would win 55 games with marginal talent too.. [/B]
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[COLOR="White"]this is getting so easy[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
That s an assumption, i talk only facts.
Jordan 1-9 without Pippen.
Pippen won 55 games without Jordan.
No other superstar in their prime had a team that won 55 games without him.
Jordan had the most stacked team of all-time...
Re: Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...
[QUOTE=livinglegend]
No other superstar in their prime had a team that could win 55 games without him.
[/QUOTE]
No other team had 3-peat chemistry, teamwork and system - if they did, they would win 55 games with marginal talent too..
But the Bulls were exposed in the playoffs - 3-peat chemistry could only get them to the 2nd Round - they simply lacked talent.
Furthermore, the 94' Bulls weren't going to rebound from their 2nd Round defeat and do better the next year - they were a 2nd Round team PERMANENTLY without Jordan, after being a 3-peat dynasty with him.
[COLOR="Navy"][I]Now if we were running an experiment to see if MJ's impact was [U]truly[/U] 3-peat to 2nd Round, we would have him come back and see if he could 3-peat again.... VIOLA!!!!... Done and done.. Confirmed 2nd Round to 3-peat impact.[/I][/COLOR]
Re: Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...
[QUOTE=3ball][B]The [url=https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/paine-datalab-lebron-cast-2.png]538 rankings[/url] show that MJ casts rank far lower than Lebron's 2012 and 2013 casts,
[/B][/QUOTE]
False.
[IMG]https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/paine-datalab-lebron-cast-2.png[/IMG]
[COLOR="White"]this is getting so easy[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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Re: Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...
[QUOTE=3ball]No other team had 3-peat chemistry, teamwork and system - if they did, they would win 55 games with marginal talent too..
[/QUOTE]
That s an assumption, i talk only facts.
Jordan 1-9 without Pippen.
Pippen won 55 games without Jordan.
No other superstar in their prime had a team that won 55 games without him.
Jordan had the most stacked team of all-time...
Re: Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...
[QUOTE=livinglegend]
No other superstar in their prime had a team that could win 55 games without him.
[/QUOTE]
No other team had 3-peat chemistry, teamwork and system - if they did, they would win 55 games with marginal talent too..
But the Bulls were exposed in the playoffs - 3-peat chemistry could only get them to the 2nd Round - they simply lacked talent.
Furthermore, the 94' Bulls weren't going to rebound from their 2nd Round defeat and do better the next year - they were a 2nd Round team PERMANENTLY without Jordan, after being a 3-peat dynasty with him.
[COLOR="Navy"][I]Now if we were running an experiment to see if MJ's impact was [U]truly[/U] 3-peat to 2nd Round, we would have him come back and see if he could 3-peat again.... VIOLA!!!!... Done and done.. Confirmed 2nd Round to 3-peat impact..[/I][/COLOR]
Re: Horace Grant is a worse 3rd option than...
[QUOTE=livinglegend]
False, they are near the top.
[/QUOTE]
[B]The [url=https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/paine-datalab-lebron-cast-2.png]538 rankings[/url] show that MJ's 1991 and 1993 casts rank far lower than Lebron's 2012 and 2013 casts, which means MJ won with less than Lebron won with... MJ was capable of winning with less..
[I][COLOR="DarkRed"]Could MJ have won with Lebron's 2007 or 2015 casts?[/COLOR][/I]... Probably, since he would've scored a lot more and he would've shot much better than 35% and 39%, respectively..[/B].