Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
[QUOTE=TheMarkMadsen]10-15 people you would take offensively over Curry??
No way.[/QUOTE]
In NBA history yes well maybe 10 not 15.
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
[QUOTE=konex]The vast majority of his shots are also wide open due to his teammates. To be fair, a lot are deep 3s but still.[/QUOTE]
I agree this team is super loaded still what Curry can do is very impressive his handles along with his shooting ability is rare.
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
[QUOTE=sportjames23]MJ never lost a Finals like Duncan did doe. :rockon:[/QUOTE]
We can also cherry pick stats. He never won a series without Pippen.
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
[QUOTE=Cold soul]I agree this team is super loaded still what Curry can do is very impressive his handles along with his shooting ability is rare.[/QUOTE]
Bulls were even more loaded. They were contenders when they replaced Jordan with a D-League type of talent.
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
[QUOTE=nba_55]We can also cherry pick stats. He never won a series without Pippen.[/QUOTE]
And Duncan never repeated. We can go on and on with every player's flaws.
When looking at careers in totality, MJ's career surpasses everyone from both an individual and team perspective.
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
[QUOTE=100grandman]Half of you probably never saw MJ play. That has got to be the reason i'm seeing so many dumb ass posts.[/QUOTE]
They're trolling, this is ish...
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]And Duncan never repeated. We can go on and on with every player's flaws.
When looking at careers in totality, MJ's career surpasses everyone from both an individual and team perspective.[/QUOTE]
No he doesn't. Russell surpasses from team perspective. Wilt surpasses him from individual perspective.
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
[QUOTE=sekachu]it's been 16 years since MJ retired in 1998. Some people might forget how good MJ's offensively since they are watching curry at this moment[/QUOTE]
Well, lets keep bumping the Legend of the Greatest thread to remind them....
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
[QUOTE=nba_55]No he doesn't. Russell surpasses from team perspective. Wilt surpasses him from individual perspective.[/QUOTE]
How the f*ck does Ilt surpass MJ in the individual department?
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
[QUOTE=ClipperRevival]How the f*ck does Ilt surpass MJ in the individual department?[/QUOTE]
Better stats. Jordan is never touching 50 ppg and 25 rbs.
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
[QUOTE=nba_55]No he doesn't. Russell surpasses from team perspective. Wilt surpasses him from individual perspective.[/QUOTE]
Key word: [B]TOTALITY[/B]
MJ has the better personal stats than Russell, and better team achievements than Wilt.
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
[QUOTE=Sarcastic]Key word: [B]TOTALITY[/B]
MJ has the better personal stats than Russell, and better team achievements than Wilt.[/QUOTE]
Well, goat list is subjective. Not everyone that has the same criterias as you. Some advantages winning a lot ( in that case Russell would be goat). Others emphasize the individual productions ( in that case it would be wilt).
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
[QUOTE=ClipperRevival]How the f*ck does Ilt surpass MJ in the individual department?[/QUOTE]
He doesn't.
If games were only played in the regular-season, Wilt would be the unanimous GOAT. Unfortunately for him the NBA has a postseason and finals, where MJ simply played on another level.
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
[QUOTE=nba_55]Better stats. Jordan is never touching 50 ppg and 25 rbs.[/QUOTE]
In terms of sheer peak numbers [U]without considering context[/U], Ilt is probably the GOAT. But peak numbers isn't the be all, end all.
MJ is the all time leader in PPG and PER for both regular season and playoffs.
MJ won 5 regular seasons mvp while Ilt won 4.
MJ has 6 fmvp while Ilt has 1.
MJ's career playoff scoring average is 33.4 while Ilt's is 22.5
MJ's career playoff PER is 28.6 while Ilt's is 22.7.
MJ won 10 scoring titles while Ilt won 7.
I can go on and on.
Re: After waiting all these years for someone to be 1/10th the player MJ was....
The simple fact is that no player was as CONSISTENTLY DOMINANT like MJ. Some might've peaked a tad higher or some had better longevity but no one maintained a level like MJ for as long. The proof is in the numbers.
