Lebron not even top 10 according to those who watched more ball

[QUOTE=Mr Feeny]Sorry mate. All of them are better than Shaq and his 40% finals scoring role player sidekick.

Now about the thread topic. Lebron and the top 10.[/QUOTE]

Yup, a post with no actual explanation on his stance and quickly trying to change the subject.

Checkmate.

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]Hakeem's peak is honestly up there with anyone elses, and was better than Magic's imo[/QUOTE]

Yeah I agree. But 5 titles count for a lot. Even in the titles in which he didnt win finals mvp, he played at a really high level. 9 titles in 12(?) Years of playing is incredible. I think his longevity is what helps him there. Because as you said, Hakeem in 94 is up there with anybody really. He was the best offensive and defensive player on the planet at the same time. He outplayed Barkley, Robinson, and Shaq while anchoring the rockets' defense.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers]Yup, a post with no actual explanation on his stance and quickly trying to change the subject.

Checkmate.[/QUOTE]

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Sorry mate. Your attempts to derail this thread are futile. Done and dusted

[QUOTE=TheMan]It's ova

Shut

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Down

:hammertime:[/QUOTE]

Another day
Another win

We did it boys. :banana:

Overall LeBron is still second on ranker

And most NBA legends have LeBron in their top 5

[QUOTE=Manny98]Overall LeBron is still second on ranker

And most NBA legends have LeBron in their top 5[/QUOTE]

I think he's entrenched in the top 3. I can't see an argument (a rational one) for him being out of the top 4.

This is ridulcious. In 2016, people used to put in Lebron as top 5, but in 2019 hes not even top 10 SMH

Present always win. They saying Kawhi is better than Lebron, but what if Kawhi loses. Therefore Kawh is not the best no more. Than the next best player comes. Its an ongoing cycle. Its never ends.

Sighs

:facepalm

Im tired of these ''top XXX players threads''

It's getting boring.

[QUOTE=Turbo Slayer]This is ridulcious. In 2016, people used to put in Lebron as top 5, but in 2019 hes not even top 10 SMH

Present always win. They saying Kawhi is better than Lebron, but what if Kawhi loses. Therefore Kawh is not the best no more. Than the next best player comes. Its an ongoing cycle. Its never ends.

Sighs

:facepalm

Im tired of these ''top XXX players threads''

It's getting boring.[/QUOTE]

I think there is a difference between discussions about the best players in a game at a given moment (eg. Right now in 2019) and the discussion about where players stand in the all time list.

Kawhi is better than Lebron right now (as is Durant) but Lebron is still comfortably higher than both on the all time list. He's in the top 3 while neither is in the top 10.

[QUOTE=Mr Feeny]I think there is a difference between discussions about the best players in a game at a given moment (eg. Right now in 2019) and the discussion about where players stand in the all time list.

Kawhi is better than Lebron right now (as is Durant) but Lebron is still comfortably higher than both on the all time list. He's in the top 3 while neither is in the top 10.[/QUOTE]

Ahhh. I get what you are saying dawg. Its all good.
I agree with your statement.
But Im just saying, people will always rate a player as of right now. In the present.

But I get what youre saying.
:applause:

Somebody convince why Kawhi is better than Lebron ALL-time. (not the present)

Lebron has 4 MVPs, 3 finals MVP, ROTY, 3 rings on his resume.
Kawhi, on the other hand, has 2 DPOTYs, and 2 Finals MVP

In the present, obviously, I would pick Kawhi over Lebron just for the sheer fact Lebron declining at a slow rate while Kawhi is at the top of his game.

Kawhi while questionable in the 4th quarter HAS shown remarkable progress in his move set. Hes copying Jordan and Kobe which is cool as heck, dude.

Lebron keeps relying on his speed, but it won't get him anywhere doe. He needs to adapt some moves from Kobe and Michael Jeffrey Jordan.

But I pick Lebron in his prime(2009 Lebron) That dude is a beast.
This crazy dude average about 30 points. Thats crazy. If I were to pick which players. I pick Lebron.

[QUOTE=Turbo Slayer]Somebody convince why Kawhi is better than Lebron ALL-time. (not the present)

Lebron has 4 MVPs, 3 finals MVP, ROTY, 3 rings on his resume.
Kawhi, on the other hand, has 2 DPOTYs, and 2 Finals MVP

In the present, obviously, I would pick Kawhi over Lebron just for the sheer fact Lebron declining at a slow rate while Kawhi is at the top of his game.

Kawhi while questionable in the 4th quarter HAS shown remarkable progress in his move set. Hes copying Jordan and Kobe which is cool as heck, dude.

Lebron keeps relying on his speed, but it won't get him anywhere doe. He needs to adapt some moves from Kobe and Michael Jeffrey Jordan.

But I pick Lebron in his prime(2009 Lebron) That dude is a beast.
This crazy dude average about 30 points. Thats crazy. If I were to pick which players. I pick Lebron.[/QUOTE]

It’s not even a question or comparison all time.. even at his peak kahwi missed almost all 2017 and part of 2018/19 season. Lebron is a generational talent once every 25 years..Kawai is just a talented player who has improved and gained confidence in himself over the last few years.

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]It’s not even a question or comparison all time.. even at his peak kahwi missed almost all 2017 and part of 2018/19 season. Lebron is a generational talent once every 25 years..Kawai is just a talented player who has improved and gained confidence in himself over the last few years.[/QUOTE]

FAXX

You're right, my dude. you're cool

Lebron is a generational talent every 25 years. He lived up to the HYPE. Not many players who hyped up actually lives up to the hype.

Don't get me started on Kwame, Patty Mayo, and Lonzo. Everyone thought they would be good. But they either ended up average or just trash. Kwame Brown has no heart for the game of basketball.

But Lebron and Jabbar did. That what made Bron and Jabbar be in the GOAT conversation. The very fact they lived up to the hype. Its unreal
:bowdown:

[QUOTE=Turbo Slayer]Somebody convince why Kawhi is better than Lebron ALL-time. (not the present)

Lebron has 4 MVPs, 3 finals MVP, ROTY, 3 rings on his resume.
Kawhi, on the other hand, has 2 DPOTYs, and 2 Finals MVP

In the present, obviously, I would pick Kawhi over Lebron just for the sheer fact Lebron declining at a slow rate while Kawhi is at the top of his game.

Kawhi while questionable in the 4th quarter HAS shown remarkable progress in his move set. Hes copying Jordan and Kobe which is cool as heck, dude.

Lebron keeps relying on his speed, but it won't get him anywhere doe. He needs to adapt some moves from Kobe and Michael Jeffrey Jordan.

But I pick Lebron in his prime(2009 Lebron) That dude is a beast.
This crazy dude average about 30 points. Thats crazy. If I were to pick which players. I pick Lebron.[/QUOTE]
Considering LeBron is already ranked higher than Jordan and broke all MJ's records let's see if Kawhi can break any of Jordan's records first before we try to compare him to LeBron.

Imagine thinking LeBron isn't top 5 or at the very least top 10?


Yikes.

[QUOTE=TheCorporation]Considering LeBron is already ranked higher than Jordan and broke all MJ's records let's see if Kawhi can break any of Jordan's records first before we try to compare him to LeBron.