Re: Tim Grover thinks traditional weight training needs to come back.
Kobe wasn’t even 30, he was 28 in the summer of 2008
Re: Tim Grover thinks traditional weight training needs to come back.
[QUOTE=Shogon;14056491]Dwight Howard
Blake Griffin
Shaquille O'Neal
Dwyane Wade
Off the top of my head...
Honestly I think players are just far heavier today which results in more injuries. There are, of course, exceptions...
I don't know. There seem to be far too many variable factors to be able to definitively narrow it down to 1 thing, I suppose.[/QUOTE]
Dwight Wade and possibly Blake were on massive amounts of HGH
Re: Tim Grover thinks traditional weight training needs to come back.
[QUOTE=eliteballer;14406565]Kobe wasn’t even 30, he was 28 in the summer of 2008[/QUOTE]
And he had already gone through two knee surgeries by then IIRC. One after 2003 and another prior to his '06 season I believe. Even with Tim as his trainer, his knees were bad and he needed to have one drained mid-Playoffs and then had to lose 20 pounds & go to Germany years later to extend his career.
Re: Tim Grover thinks traditional weight training needs to come back.
He could barely jump during parts of the 06 season.
Re: Tim Grover thinks traditional weight training needs to come back.
More weights were lifted in the '90s and '00s. I think players today are too slim jim.
Re: Tim Grover thinks traditional weight training needs to come back.
[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;14820077]More weights were lifted in the '90s and '00s. I think players today are too slim jim.[/QUOTE]
It's a iffy one.a more players hurt more then back then. Is it the lack of weight training or more the free movement so more tear on the body. Only isb will know
Re: Tim Grover thinks traditional weight training needs to come back.
I thought it was pretty much universal knowledge that free weights are superior for strength training. I'm shocked that some NBA teams don't have weights availble to the players.
Re: Tim Grover thinks traditional weight training needs to come back.
[QUOTE=eliteballer;14406565]Kobe wasn’t even 30, he was 28 in the summer of 2008[/QUOTE]
For an Asian you are really bad at Math. Kobe was born in 1978. He just turned 30 during the 2008 off season.
Re: Tim Grover thinks traditional weight training needs to come back.
You can say all you want about "functional training", but it's a fact that Crossfit, not weight training is where the injuries happen.
Soccer, not rugby, has the many, many knee and ankle injuries.
More muscle protects the ligaments and joints.
I will say one thing, I could imagine that steroid use without proper weight training could contribute to all these injuries. Steroids grow your muscles, but your ligaments, bones and joints don't grow with them.
When you weight train, you build a lot of supporting muscle, bone density and ligament tissue.
[url]https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/speaking-of-health/no-matter-your-age-or-skill-level-its-never-too-late-to-start-weight-training[/url]
[QUOTE]If done correctly, it also should help your bones, tendons, ligaments and muscles become stronger.
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If you're suddenly growing your hams and calfs to sprint and jump, but haven't built enough supporting tissue, bone density and so on, then it seems obvious you risk injury.
I can't help but think that this could be the case with some of the gnarlier injuries we've seen. These skinny guys like Paul George playing very athletically because of PEDs and their bones not being ready for the impact.
Re: Tim Grover thinks traditional weight training needs to come back.
I was gonna make a new topic for this but remember this one….
This is what we’re doing now apparently
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Re: Tim Grover thinks traditional weight training needs to come back.
I’m sure players today have the greatest core strength of all time but watching all these terrible games with stars sitting out I’m not sure how much practical good it does them. If you’re gonna do some unorthodox shit I think I prefer the Rocky montage old days shit
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Notice how college players don’t look anymore athletic than they were 30 years ago but NBA players do…
Re: Tim Grover thinks traditional weight training needs to come back.
traditional weight training provides more pressure to the body, but still the risk factor haven't been answered.
lets say I still ask you to do the current crossfit exercises, but you're only allowed to do it in a hot room, and every time you look for extended amount of rest you'll have to leave the hot room. imagine the amount of proper care athletes are required to do in order to fully recover and enter the next training class.
Re: Tim Grover thinks traditional weight training needs to come back.
[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14898244]I was gonna make a new topic for this but remember this one….
This is what we’re doing now apparently
[IMG]https://i.ibb.co/PFfNZM5/IMG-8314.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]
That actually looks like a good exercise
Well it doesn’t look good but….you know what I mean
Re: Tim Grover thinks traditional weight training needs to come back.
Oh im sure it’s grueling when you do it for a while. Looks like some of the weird shit my girlfriend’s trainer has her doing. Probably activates some of the same things as the old farm strength guys who didn’t lift weights but just lived a tough physical life.Im sure it serves a purpose.