Re: It's time to admit the 16' Warriors weren't that good & simply had strategy becau
[QUOTE=HBK_Kliq_2;14299721]What's so special about him?
2015 - iggy won finals mvp
2016 - draymond carries curry in the finals and they still lose. Curry chokes
2017/2018 - Durant finals mvps
2019 - draymond is best player vs Harden/Paul and then curry chokes in finals again[/QUOTE]
In all the above cases Curry drew the attention so that they could be open. You think the Cavaliers are going to guard Draymond over Curry? Isn't that what they should do if Draymond was really the better player? Tank commander of a 15-win team Draymond is probably bound for the Hall of Fame due to his good fortune in landing Steph as a teammate.
Steph created points for these guys that he gets no credit for. Remember that next time you compare stats. Take a quarter of Draymond's offensive stats and add them to Curry's and you get a closer approximation of what Steph really does.
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I actually agree with OP. Replace Curry, Klay, and Draymond with Hersey Hawkins, Larry Hughes, and Zydrunas Ilgaskus. Now THAT'S a superteam
Re: It's time to admit the 16' Warriors weren't that good & simply had strategy becau
OP would kill himself if he ever was permanently banned from "talking basketball" online.
Re: It's time to admit the 16' Warriors weren't that good & simply had strategy becau
3ball cant even get tpols on his side when it comes to curry lol. Response here is simple dray was so much better in 2016 when he was an all-nba caliber player to what he is now which is a nice starter. he has very little value offensively now and though still good is no longer a dpoy level guy. Losing klay is only half of it, oubre is also a net negative. Wiggins has been a pleasant surprise but still not a big positive player, iggy was significantly more impactful.
The overlooked thing in this thread also is that wiseman is a huge negative because he's so young. 3ball doesnt watch any games so he thinks he's been good scoring 11.5 in 20 min but that's deceiving. He's part of all their worst lineups and kind of clueless on both ends.
The difference between him and bogut is comical but even if warriors just played mostly looney, that would help a lot. for steph's sake, I think they should consider a wiseman trade for a more proven center though he has a lot of potential(christian wood is a good idea and cheap)
Re: It's time to admit the 16' Warriors weren't that good & simply had strategy becau
yes they were not they good
they just broke all the records and won 73 games magically
:oldlol: :oldlol:
Re: It's time to admit the 16' Warriors weren't that good & simply had strategy becau
[QUOTE=And1AllDay;14299928]yes they were not they good
they just broke all the records and won 73 games magically
:oldlol: :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Yep, had nothing to do with how good the team was, it was all thanks to
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Re: It's time to admit the 16' Warriors weren't that good & simply had strategy becau
MJ famously never benefited from advanced strategy and coaching :hammerhead:
Re: It's time to admit the 16' Warriors weren't that good & simply had strategy becau
Curry only needed Klay and Dray to win 73 :bowdown:
Re: It's time to admit the 16' Warriors weren't that good & simply had strategy becau
[QUOTE=hateraid;14299861]I actually agree with OP. Replace Curry, Klay, and Draymond with Hersey Hawkins, Larry Hughes, and Zydrunas Ilgaskus. Now THAT'S a superteam[/QUOTE]
You shouldn't forget about the great mo williams and boobie gibson here.
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[QUOTE=Axe;14300031]You shouldn't forget about the great mo williams and boobie gibson here.[/QUOTE]
And ancient Ray Allen!!!!
Re: It's time to admit the 16' Warriors weren't that good & simply had strategy becau
[QUOTE=3ball;14299529]Klay doesn't turn this borderline playoff team into a 73-win team, so it was just the strategy edge that the league caught up to.
The 16' Warriors style is now the league standard
So Curry is just a 3-point shooter that benefits from the format and the 16' Warriors weren't that good - they just had a short-lived strategy edge and needed KD to actually win
Btw, don't pretend the other pieces like Harrison Barnes were the difference.. system bums like Dray and other role players thrived under the new strategy advantage but now look bummy without the strategy edge
.[/QUOTE]
lol
Re: It's time to admit the 16' Warriors weren't that good & simply had strategy becau
The Curry\Draymond warriors are who we thought they were. They probably dominate the 90s like Jordan\Pippen did because they wouldn't have to play a Kawhi Leonard in the finals.
Durant is just a coward who jumped on the bandwagon, it would be like shaq signing with bulls after 1996 hahahahaha
Re: It's time to admit the 16' Warriors weren't that good & simply had strategy becau
5 months later, Curry goes from just a 3 point specialist who NEEDS Durant to win championships to a top 5 player of all time and ranked higher than KD :lol
He managed to even top his Giannis flip flop, no easy task
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Re: It's time to admit the 16' Warriors weren't that good & simply had strategy becau
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Most of you guys don't even have him in your top 10... :yaohappy: