Re: Curry is the most overrated player in history
[QUOTE=3ball;14321518]So why wasn't Curry taking 10 threes a game in 2012?
Why the sudden jump ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE
y"all are just dumb
The league format/strategy changed dummy[/QUOTE]
Meanwhile in the 90's...
[video=youtube;jsjukb2NttM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsjukb2NttM[/video]
Re: Curry is the most overrated player in history
[QUOTE=3ball;14321172]He relies on today's high-screen, drive-and-kick strategy.
This strategy allows 3-point shooters to stand and wait for kickouts, thus adding to the attempts they get off-the-dribble or off screens - if Curry had to run off screens with a defender stuck to him like Reggie Miller had to do, he would barely get off 5 theees a game..
Curry actually took 5 threes a game for 3 straight years and was a 19 ppg scorer, but then the league strategy became the aforementioned 3-point contest, which allowed Curry's production to reach elite levels.
Ultimately, he's just a 3-point shooter, so he's 1-dimensional.[/QUOTE]
high IQ post
Re: Curry is the most overrated player in history
Curry's game is based on timing and guile, so he doesn't actually need to be more athletic or whatever OPs beef is with his offensive game. Of course the strategy has boosted his numbers, but with that skill he would be effective in any era and in any style. There is nothing bad about maximizing the strenghts of a player who can lift your team to greater hights. They did that with Jordan too with the triangle.
Re: Curry is the most overrated player in history
Re: Curry is the most overrated player in history
Right now NBA teams take an average of 35 threes a game. Back in 2013, when Steph started doing his 8, they were are 20.
There is a lot of evidence that Steph created the increase in 3s taken leaguewide. Not the other way around.
Re: Curry is the most overrated player in history
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14321586]Right now NBA teams take an average of 35 threes a game. Back in 2013, when Steph started doing his 8, they were are 20.
There is a lot of evidence that Steph created the increase in 3s taken leaguewide. Not the other way around.[/QUOTE]
At 5 threes a game, Steph is a 19 ppg scorer
At today's ridiculous volume - whether he got there first or not - he's a 30-point scorer
And there's another way to see that Curry is overrated - he's a veteran champion, yet he only led his team to an 8 seed - guys like 18' Lebron would've led his 05' Cavs to the 4 seed for sure.. Or 91' Jordan probably wins the title with his 89' team
Re: Curry is the most overrated player in history
[QUOTE=3ball;14321617][B]At 5 threes a game, Steph is a 19 ppg scorer
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At today's ridiculous volume - whether he got there first or not - he's a 30-point scorer
And there's another way to see that Curry is overrated - he's a veteran champion, yet he only led his team to an 8 seed - guys like 18' Lebron would've led his 05' Cavs to the 4 seed for sure.. Or 91' Jordan probably wins the title with his 89' team[/QUOTE]
This isn't relevant though.
The point is that he is the greatest shooter of all time, and 5 threes per game is not going to be a realistic number of shots for a guy like that any any era where the 3pt line exists. The fact that he got there first is a HUGE part of the equation. Why wouldn't he have gotten there first in 1997? No era is holding a shooter like that down. Particularly since it isn't just pure accuracy that makes him great (off ball movement, handles, release, general craftiness with his shot selection). There are many factors that you are ignoring.
Re: Curry is the most overrated player in history
How can somebody make thousands of posts hating on a guy for being ball dominant and a poor shooter, but then turn around and say the least ball dominant and best shooter of all time is overrated? We hear this clown say MJ is the GOAT because he scored off ball and allowed for dynasty teamwork, but then when Chef does it better than him, he's a scrub? The inconsistency in this fellas arguments is almost unbelievable.
Re: Curry is the most overrated player in history
when tpols the GOAT ducker of "do you think clips beat lakers?" debunks your stuff, its time to stop.
Re: Curry is the most overrated player in history
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14321629]This isn't relevant though.
The point is that he is the greatest shooter of all time, and 5 threes per game is not going to be a realistic number of shots for a guy like that any any era where the 3pt line exists. The fact that he got there first is a HUGE part of the equation. Why wouldn't he have gotten there first in 1997? No era is holding a shooter like that down. Particularly since it isn't just pure accuracy that makes him great (off ball movement, handles, release, general craftiness with his shot selection). There are many factors that you are ignoring.[/QUOTE]
Yup. Curry INSPIRED today's more efficient style. He didn't copy cat it. He made it. I could see a case to be made if there was no 3pt line in MJs era, but there was. He simply took all the curls and fades people used to use to get midrange jumpers and applied it 30 feet. Alien technology. Its like hating on people for using computers instead of stone tools. Catch up fella.
Re: Curry is the most overrated player in history
It depends how you look at it. I think he's overrated in this era because he's not as good as Kawhi, Lebron, Durant.
However, in the 90s I can see him having a case over any player not named Jordan.
His main problem is he has 0 finals mvps, small dick curry is what they call him in the biggest moments hahahhaa he's like harden with better teammates.
I figured OP would prefer curry over Magic Johnson because his obsession over usage/PPG/shooting.
Re: Curry is the most overrated player in history
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;14321629]This isn't relevant though.
The point is that he is the greatest shooter of all time, and 5 threes per game is not going to be a realistic number of shots for a guy like that any any era where the 3pt line exists. The fact that he got there first is a HUGE part of the equation. [B]Why wouldn't he have gotten there first in 1997? [/B]No era is holding a shooter like that down. Particularly since it isn't just pure accuracy that makes him great (off ball movement, handles, release, general craftiness with his shot selection). There are many factors that you are ignoring.[/QUOTE]
Good response
but Curry is a result of an evolution that can't be sped up.
Curry is a result of a steady trend towards 3-pointers that began when the line was insituted in 1980 - every year the 3-point attempts increased until some puny kid decided that's [U]all[/U] the game should be about.. that couldn't happen before Curry, otherwise it [U]would've[/U] happened.. Curry is the natural evolution that occurs when you paint an arbitrary line on the court to "spice up" the game... That evolution can't be sped up..
Re: Curry is the most overrated player in history
Btw, assuming Ja Morant doesn't have a coming out party at Curry's expense, Donovan Mitchell will completely obliterate Curry.
Did you see how Mitchell played in last year's Playoffs? GOAT level (36 ppg and 34 PER)
And he was just getting started.. Curry is about to run into a buzz saw
Re: Curry is the most overrated player in history
Dwight Howard >>>> Isiah Thomas. Imagine losing 3 years in a row to a top 40 player that's the best player on that Pistons team.
Re: Curry is the most overrated player in history
[QUOTE=warriorfan;14321490]Op is a certified goof[/QUOTE]
Warriorfan, defend Curry's honour a little more passionately against this clown.
Curry is a top 12 player of all time in my estimation.