post draft off season part II-bring on the roster moves!

[url]https://www.ksl.com/article/50216003/utah-jazz-waive-shooting-guard-matt-thomas[/url]

[QUOTE]Thomas, who had shot 45.7% from 3-point territory over the course of three seasons with the Toronto Raptors, appeared in 19 games for the Jazz and shot just 25.6% (10 for 39) from deep. Without his shooting, he was simply unplayable.

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well who knows what he would have done if he'd played with rotation players and not in garbage time. Amazing what playing with the best players does for soemone

[QUOTE]It's yet another sign that last year's additions to the team were mostly a bust. The Jazz spent a second round pick for a half-season of Thomas, drafted a center that wasn't expected to play, and the Jazz just [URL="https://www.ksl.com/article/50214913/utah-jazz-trade-derrick-favors-to-thunder-in-cost-cutting-move"]used a future first-round pick[/URL] in order to get out of Derrick Favors' $9.7 million salary after he signed a new deal with the Jazz in November.

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Favors was a bust as expected. Hard to say that about guys who didn't get a chance because of the coach

[url]https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/1/22602446/utah-jazz-mailbag-free-agency-and-offseason-questions-answered-mle-tmle-luxury-tax-derrick-favors[/url]

[QUOTE]By trading Favors, he gets his full salary paid to him and the Jazz aren’t the ones footing the bill.

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they foot the bill in a 1st rounder

[QUOTE][INDENT] Hey Sarah. I think the Jazz played the draft brilliantly. They got an amazing talent in Jared Butler. My question is this. They traded down to 40 and still got him, did they somehow have solid Intel that no one was going to grab him before then or were they just lucky?

— DavidHughes (@davidhughes1113) [URL="https://twitter.com/davidhughes1113/status/1421908189767880708?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"]August 1, 2021[/URL] [/INDENT][/QUOTE]

I'd say they thought it was worth the risk and that they liked some other guys enough to risk losing him for the extra picks which they need with all of the ones they've been giving up the past couple years

[QUOTE]The Jazz are looking for positional versatility. So I feel like they’ll try to find someone that can play a stretch or small ball five. That will likely be the main plan for backup center minutes.

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Need a starting 4 that could play the small ball 5 role and a veteran traditional big ideally

[url]https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/1/22603642/film-breakdown-jared-butler-deep-dive[/url]

[QUOTE]Butler’s shooting form off the catch is pure, smooth, and consistent. He has a textbook release and a strong base.

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looks like they might have to tweak his release like they did with Ingles. It starts low

[QUOTE]The Utah Jazz love the pick & roll. Every guard and most of the wings on the team are frequently asked to create from it. Fortunately, Jared Butler knows how to do just that. He is a versatile scorer in the pick & roll. As we’ve seen, defenses have to go over the screen or hedge hard not to allow Butler to pull up. He can also get to the paint or his floater. Butler is incredibly patient and poised, and he keeps his eyes up with a live dribble looking for driving or passing lanes. He’s creative in the lane. He can manipulate the defense with his eyes to get himself or his teammates open.

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looks like he could be another option besides Mike and Joe in the pick and roll which would be nice

[QUOTE] Jared Butler is a capable finisher at the rim. He shows his basketball IQ with his crafty finishes around rim protectors. He’s patient, smart, and skillful in the way he gets to the basket. He can avoid contact with acrobatic layups or create space with the threat of his passing ability. He uses cuts, pump-fakes, pass-fakes, and a myriad of dribble moves to get into the lane. He can finish with either hand on either side of the basket.

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he's not Rubio or Exum!

[QUOTE]It’s hard to predict whether Butler will get a rotation spot with the Jazz this year. He’s certainly one of the most NBA-ready rookies in this year’s class, but he is still a rookie. The Jazz have a loaded backcourt of Donovan Mitchell, Jordan Clarkson, and (hopefully) Mike Conley, so minutes at the guard position will be hard to come by. If there are injuries, Butler will definitely see the court.

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Clarkson is hardly loaded. This guys is already better. Looks like a great fit. How his lack of length affects him and his injuries are the big questions

[QUOTE]If he can fight his way into the rotation, Butler will likely play as a secondary creator, a spot-up shooter, and a primary defender. If he can do those three things at a high level, it will be hard for Quin Snyder to keep him off the court.

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won't be hard for COTY to keep anyone off the court. He didn't go to Duke so he has his work cut out for him

[QUOTE]We now know that Q didn’t think that our bench were not NBA caliber players. And therefore, I would imagine he had no interested in developing them since there has been friction between him and DL. Hopefully moving forward things may be different. I am super excited we have Butler. Possibly our best pure draft pick since AK47 (DM and Gobert were not our draft picks) Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/statpower"]statpower[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/1/22603642/film-breakdown-jared-butler-deep-dive#543169679"]Aug 1, 2021 | 1:01 PM[/URL] [/QUOTE]

they were the Jazz draft picks after they were traded to them. Sounds like COTY refused to play guys and sabotaged them the past two seasons just to get Lindsey fired.. Unreal!

[QUOTE]Joe can be a true wing [/QUOTE]

We'll see. Ingles should have the ball until this guy proves otherwise. Forrest looked good too if he could only shoot

[QUOTE] Means Jazz have two positions that need to be filled.
The best Stretch 4, small ball Center they can get for the TMLE
Anyone have any Ideas?


Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/AdMan59"]AdMan59[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/1/22603642/film-breakdown-jared-butler-deep-dive#543179672"]Aug 1, 2021 | 5:14 PM[/URL]

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Starting 4/small ball 5/traditional 5/backup 4/deep bench depth everywhere

[QUOTE][h=4]YES. SO YES.[/h] I’d love if they managed to sign Theis as backup C/PF. I’ve always really liked the dude.

Posted by [URL="https://www.sbnation.com/users/ikerex88"]ikerex88[/URL] on [URL="https://www.slcdunk.com/2021/8/1/22603642/film-breakdown-jared-butler-deep-dive#543187124"]Aug 1, 2021 | 10:57 PM[/URL]

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yep like him too

[url]https://thejnotes.com/2021/08/01/utah-jazz-stacked-backcourt-nba-best/[/url]

[QUOTE]Now, by adding Baylor national champ Jared Butler via [URL="https://thejnotes.com/2021/07/30/utah-jazz-draft-score-franchise-lore/"]a slick steal[/URL] at Thursday’s NBA Draft, Utah ought to have two promising young guards at its disposal. The other is a projected second-year Jazz reserve in Trent Forrest, who often looked like a fast learner while filling in when Mitchell and Conley sat out the homestretch of the regular season.

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Forrest has his work cut out for him to get a contract after this pick. Too bad Forrest can't play yet or we could see them go head to head in summer league

[url]https://sircharlesincharge.com/2021/08/01/nba-predicting-top-free-agents-lowry/8/[/url]

Conley behind Derozan and Ball :roll:

[QUOTE]Mike Conley may have been injured for the Utah Jazz in the NBA playoffs, but I believe that this is still a player that could have an impact on a really good team. Conley is far removed from his prime, and his best years of basketball are likely behind him. Still, he proved to be a valuable player for a team that finished with the best record in the regular season.

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coming off arguably his best season :facepalm

As is the case with Paul, [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746050/2021/08/02/nba-free-agency-preview-lakers-and-clippers-options-latest-on-kawhi-leonard-and-chris-paul-and-more/?source=rss"]front-office sources widely believe Mike Conley will stay put in Utah.[/URL] And if that’s the case, as so many expect, then the Jazz have ample reason to celebrate.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746050/2021/08/02/nba-free-agency-preview-lakers-and-clippers-options-latest-on-kawhi-leonard-and-chris-paul-and-more/?source=rss"]Sam Amick @ The Athletic[/URL]

He has so much to work on offensively to start pulling his weight as a max player, but as a defender, it’s hard to find a weakness in him. “I know Gobert is Gobert and he blocks a lot of shots and does everything, but Simmons is so disruptive,” one coach told us as he explained his Defensive Player of the Year vote. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2745318/2021/08/02/anonymous-nba-coaches-poll-2020-21-best-defenders/?source=emp_shared_article"]“You can’t go wrong with either guy, but the versatility with Simmons is what put him over the top for me.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2745318/2021/08/02/anonymous-nba-coaches-poll-2020-21-best-defenders/?source=emp_shared_article"]Jon Krawczynski, Josh Robbins, Jon Krawczynski and Josh Robbins @ The Athletic[/URL]

[URL="https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2021/08/tyler-lydon-says-this-stint-with-boeheims-army-will-end-basketball-playing-career.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=syracuse_sf"]Tyler Lydon considers this Boeheim’s Army run his final salute as a basketball player. The former Syracuse basketball forward, the former No. 24 pick of the 2017 NBA Draft, is nursing a sore right hip and a sore left knee.[/URL] He needs surgery to repair both physical issues. “I’m supposed to have a surgery on my hip. I have a torn labrum and my bones are rubbing,” he said Sunday after Boeheim’s Army had escaped the Dayton Arena with another Elam Ending victory. “And then my left knee I have another torn meniscus and I have no cartilage in there. So, I’ve gotta get another surgery on that, too.”
– via [URL="https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2021/08/tyler-lydon-says-this-stint-with-boeheims-army-will-end-basketball-playing-career.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=syracuse_sf"]Donna Ditota @ The Post-Standard[/URL]




He re-tore the meniscus two months ago and received a cortisone injection to dull the pain so he could play in The Basketball Tournament. Sometimes, he feels the soreness, other times it’s manageable. The hip doesn’t seem to be as problematic these days. [URL="https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2021/08/tyler-lydon-says-this-stint-with-boeheims-army-will-end-basketball-playing-career.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=syracuse_sf"]“It is what it is. Just fighting through it. This is my last time lacing ’em up so I just figured I’d come out there and have fun,” he said. “My body’s taken a toll. I’ve already had knee surgery and I need two more surgeries. It’s enough for me.”[/URL]
– via [URL="https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2021/08/tyler-lydon-says-this-stint-with-boeheims-army-will-end-basketball-playing-career.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=syracuse_sf"]Donna Ditota @ The Post-Standard[/URL]

Going back to Neto possibly getting a raise from the $1.8 million he made last year in Washington. After setting career-highs across the board, including in scoring and efficiency, [URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/wizards/2021-nba-free-agency-point-guard-tops-list-wizards"]Neto is going to get a good deal of interest. According to sources around the league, the Knicks kept coming up as likely suitors[/URL].
– via [URL="https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/wizards/2021-nba-free-agency-point-guard-tops-list-wizards"]Chase Hughes @ NBC Sports[/URL]

Jason Quick: [URL="https://*********.com/social/"]Blazers announce staff of coach Chauncey Billups: Scott Brooks, Roy Rogers, Steve Hetzel, Ednisha Curry and Milt Palacio. Parker Hines will be video coordinator[/URL].
– via [URL="https://twitter.com/jwquick"]Twitter jwquick[/URL]

[url]https://twitter.com/kslsports/status/1422234840217231364/photo/1[/url]

The A team with Udoka, Brantley, Forrest, Hughes, Morgan, and Stars White and Castlin

B team might suck!

Otto Porter Jr. and Rudy Gay are two players the Jazz hold interest in. But those names also come with caveats. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Gay is thought to be leaning toward the Los Angeles Lakers[/URL].

– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic


[/URL] [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Otto Porter is thought to be leaning to the Brooklyn Nets.[/URL] In free agency, anything can happen.
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]

[QUOTE] So, there are open roster spots. And, of course, the Jazz traded Derrick Favors to the Oklahoma City Thunder. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Favors will meet with Thunder brass on Tuesday, according to league sources. The result of that meeting will probably determine whether OKC plans to keep Favors on its roster for the upcoming season, or if the two sides will pursue another trade for Favors[/URL].

– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]





The Jazz did not extend a qualifying offer to forward Juwan Morgan, [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]although sources say the Jazz are keeping an open door on Morgan’s return[/URL].
– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]


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why bring someone back that the coach won't play? Maybe he will play him now that he got Lindsey fired at the cost of two straight playoff losses?

[QUOTE] As for those who were in the rotation last season, league sources indicate that it’s highly unlikely that Georges Niang will return to the team. Niang, who was a valuable role player off the bench for Utah last season, will be an unrestricted free agent. [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]He is expected to garner significant interest on the market, according to sources[/URL].

– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]




[URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]League sources indicate the Jazz, who will be deep into the luxury tax this coming season, have a willingness to use their taxpayer’s midlevel exception.[/URL] That willingness comes with a caveat. They won’t use it for the sake of using it. That means that they want to use it on a player who they have identified as a primary target.

– via [URL="https://theathletic.com/2746076/2021/08/02/jazz-free-agency-primer-retaining-mike-conley-finding-frontcourt-depth-developing-younger-players-and-more/?source=user_shared_article"]Tony Jones @ The Athletic[/URL]


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assumed he wouldn't be back. Hopefully they'll get someone who can shoot and defend since he was one of the few that did actually defend

latest update after Conley signing

Gobert/Udoka

O'Neale

Bojan/Oni(Non guarantee)/Hughes

Mitchell/Clarkson/MaCio Teague(Exhibit 10)

Conley/Ingles/Butler(assuming he is signed to at least a partially guaranteed deal?)

UFA - Niang, Ersan, Morgan, Thomas

RFA - Brantley, Forrest

9 guaranteed contracts, 8 camp spots left, 2 two way spots open