Re: Won't I live longer if my immune system is stronger from beating Covid w/out vacc
[QUOTE=3ba11;14429751]Did you miss the last sentence of the post you quoted?
[indent][I]"Now if we were talking about [U]something more lethal[/U] like a contagious cancer that was flying around, then I'd be the first one in line for the vaccine or cure."[/I][/indent][/QUOTE]
What? 0.02% death rate isn’t serious enough for you? You are playing with fire here. :lol
Re: Won't I live longer if my immune system is stronger from beating Covid w/out vacc
[QUOTE=3ba11;14429589]I prefer that my body can develop the antibodies on it's own,[/QUOTE]
That is what vaccines do. Vaccines trick your body into thinking it is infected so that your own immune system develops the antibodies on it's own.
Re: Won't I live longer if my immune system is stronger from beating Covid w/out vacc
[QUOTE=3ba11;14429738]Here's the conclusion of Israel's widely-renowned study of 76,000 participants, which confirms that natural immuniuty is superior at preventing covid than the vaccine:
[indent][I]CONCLUSION: This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
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[url]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1[/url][/indent][/QUOTE]
Yes, but unvaccinated old man Joe Rogan, for example, was sick on Sunday. Getting the Trump vaccine would most likely have made him sick too, but there's a chance he would not have been sick on (or as sick) Sunday had he been vaccinated already.
Re: Won't I live longer if my immune system is stronger from beating Covid w/out vacc
[QUOTE=3ba11;14429738]Here's the conclusion of Israel's widely-renowned study of 76,000 participants, which confirms that natural immuniuty is superior at preventing covid than the vaccine:
[indent][I]CONCLUSION: This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
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[url]https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1[/url][/indent][/QUOTE]
Bro the same way they lie about basketball they lie about everything else.
Re: Won't I live longer if my immune system is stronger from beating Covid w/out vacc
[QUOTE=bladefd;14429747]Why not let your body fight off cancer too by itself? No chemo, no radiation, no medication. Just let your body fight it. Same for any other disease/illness. Why get any vaccine whatsoever?[/QUOTE]
Blade... Our immune systems DO fight off cancer. Cancer is a misregulation in the cell replication process. Our cells have codes to TERMINATE the cell if its ****ed up. (self destruct) Our T Cells kill irregularities that reach a small colony. Our immune system does this naturally. Chemo and radiation is literally just slash and burn technique. You poison the whole body to kill the cancer, but you also kill a ton of healthy cells. And the cancer cells that survive become resistant to treatment and then its end game.
Fruits, vegetables, exercise, fresh air and good sleep to charge your immune system is more valuable than ANY drug on the planet.
Most cancers are caused by poor diet, habits, and pollution.
Wake. The. ****. Up.
Re: Won't I live longer if my immune system is stronger from beating Covid w/out vacc
[QUOTE=Off the Court;14429770]That is what vaccines do. Vaccines trick your body into thinking it is infected so that your own immune system develops the antibodies on it's own.[/QUOTE]
If you already caught the disease you already have the antibodies. No trick required. You caught the real thing, beat it, and now have the immune memory to beat it even easier going forward.
Re: Won't I live longer if my immune system is stronger from beating Covid w/out vacc
[QUOTE=tpols;14429806]Blade... Our immune systems DO fight off cancer. Cancer is a misregulation in the cell replication process. Our cells have codes to TERMINATE the cell if its ****ed up. (self destruct) Our T Cells kill irregularities that reach a small colony. Our immune system does this naturally. Chemo and radiation is literally just slash and burn technique. You poison the whole body to kill the cancer, but you also kill a ton of healthy cells. And the cancer cells that survive become resistant to treatment and then its end game.
Fruits, vegetables, exercise, fresh air and good sleep to charge your immune system is more valuable than ANY drug on the planet.
Most cancers are caused by poor diet, habits, and pollution.
Wake. The. ****. Up.[/QUOTE]
Blade is anti-Science and pro-Big Government. He has his head so far up his Party's ass that no matter how wrong and unethical they may be, he's past the point of no return with them and must defend them at all costs.
Re: Won't I live longer if my immune system is stronger from beating Covid w/out vacc
[url]https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/oscar-la-hoya-hospitalized-breakthrough-212539377.html[/url]
Re: Won't I live longer if my immune system is stronger from beating Covid w/out vacc
[QUOTE=3ba11;14430665][url]https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/oscar-la-hoya-hospitalized-breakthrough-212539377.html[/url][/QUOTE]
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Re: Won't I live longer if my immune system is stronger from beating Covid w/out vacc
This page might be helpful in this discussion:
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/how-they-work.html[/url]
Re: Won't I live longer if my immune system is stronger from beating Covid w/out vacc
[QUOTE=WiltO'Neal;14431693]This page might be helpful in this discussion:
[url]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/how-they-work.html[/url][/QUOTE]
My immune system will be stronger in the long run (so I'll live longer) if my body learns to initiate the fighting process on it's own (natural immunity), then having a vaccine prompt the body to do what it was made to do.
It isn't complicated but the vaccine pushers have been brainwashed by big pharma
For future viruses, your body will be looking for that prompt to fight the virus, while my body will recognize it as another virus and initiate the fighting on it's own - no vaccine needed
Re: Won't I live longer if my immune system is stronger from beating Covid w/out vacc
[QUOTE=3ba11;14433718]My immune system will be stronger in the long run (so I'll live longer) if my body learns to initiate the fighting process on it's own (natural immunity), then having a vaccine prompt the body to do what it was made to do.
It isn't complicated but the vaccine pushers have been brainwashed by big pharma
For future viruses, your body will be looking for that prompt to fight the virus, [B]while my body will recognize it as another virus[/B] and initiate the fighting on it's own - no vaccine needed[/QUOTE]
If your body naturally fights off Covid-19...it will recognize Covid-19 in the future. Not another virus...
Do you really not know how this works? Or are you just trolling here now too :lol
The efficacy of mRNA vaccines is still being figured out. But it seems like you're talking about vaccines in general..
Re: Won't I live longer if my immune system is stronger from beating Covid w/out vacc
[QUOTE=3ba11;14433718]My immune system will be stronger in the long run (so I'll live longer) [B]if my body learns to initiate the fighting process on it's own (natural immunity), then having a vaccine prompt the body to do what it was made to do.[/B]
It isn't complicated but the vaccine pushers have been brainwashed by big pharma
For future viruses, your body will be looking for that prompt to fight the virus, while my body will recognize it as another virus and initiate the fighting on it's own - no vaccine needed[/QUOTE]
Makes zero difference in reality
Re: Won't I live longer if my immune system is stronger from beating Covid w/out vacc
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[B]Thread Cliffs[/B]
Natural immunity is stronger at fighting Covid than the vaccine, so people shouldn't be prevented from pursuing the better protection (natural immunity) - the unvaccinated aren't putting anyone in danger because anyone can get the vaccine to protect themselves.. so stop using the flu as a reason to act self-righteous - you're going against the science by preaching vaccine protection over natural immunity
Re: Won't I live longer if my immune system is stronger from beating Covid w/out vacc
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[B]Thread Cliffs[/B]
Natural immunity is stronger at fighting Covid than the vaccine, so people shouldn't be prevented from pursuing the better protection (natural immunity) - the unvaccinated aren't putting anyone in danger because anyone can get the vaccine to protect themselves.. so stop using the flu as a reason to act self-righteous - you're going against the science by preaching vaccine protection over natural immunity[/QUOTE]
The first case of chicken pox was discovered in 1658.
Chicken pox link to shingles was discovered over 200 years later.
We first thought the natural immunity derived from overcoming chicken pox as children was sufficient to avoid shingles in adulthood. We were wrong. Many people suffered.
The recommendation was changed from natural immunity to innoculate everyone with varicella vaccine to thwart adult shingles in the 80s. It only worked in half the population.
The sop was changed again to a dedicated shingles vaccine in 2006. Two doses of shingles vaccines gives 90% efficacy for 4 years. So imperfect, but an improvement. Should sound a little similar to covid procedures if you're paying any attention.
The chicken pox virus is pretty well understood by us. It took us over 300 years to understand and relatively effectively combat one of it's worst long term effects.
We've been working with Covid now for 2 to 3 years. It's long term effects are still yet to be fully unraveled.
Discovery takes time. "Science" takes time. You know less than we do and we know little. A little humility would be wise.