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[QUOTE=PeroAntic;14553433]Based on all the other components of what makes an MVP (raw stats, advanced stats, star teammates and of course the X factor - excitement).[/QUOTE]
Jokic (and others) obliterate him in raw stats and advanced stats. It's not even a debate
You have no argument per usual. Your 'retarded' shtick isn't funny anymore mang.
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14553436]Jokic (and others) obliterate him in raw stats and advanced stats. It's not even a debate
You have no argument per usual. Your 'retarded' shtick isn't funny anymore mang.[/QUOTE]
Seriously Jokic's win shares/BPM/VORP are double Morant's. :oldlol:
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14553436]Jokic (and others) obliterate him in raw stats and advanced stats. It's not even a debate
You have no argument per usual. Your 'retarded' shtick isn't funny anymore mang.[/QUOTE]
Not looking good for our resident rose stan. :ohwell:
[QUOTE=AlternativeAcc.;14553436]Jokic (and others) obliterate him in raw stats and advanced stats. It's not even a debate
You have no argument per usual. Your 'retarded' shtick isn't funny anymore mang.[/QUOTE]
No they don't obliterate him, they beat him by a slight margin. It was already explained how in previous cases the player with the best stats doesn't win. it seems its hard for people to understand what a 'combination of factors' means. Maybe you will learn one day.
[QUOTE=Axe;14553439]Not looking good for our resident rose stan. :ohwell:[/QUOTE]
Shhh, grown ups are talking.
[QUOTE=PeroAntic;14553443]Shhh, grown ups are talking.[/QUOTE]
Bu-but
"12-2 is a fluke of lucky shooting, weak opponents and unsustainably tenacious defense. Completely irrelevant."
:cry:
[QUOTE=Axe;14553445]Bu-but
"12-2 is a fluke of lucky shooting, weak opponents and unsustainably tenacious defense. Completely irrelevant."
:cry:[/QUOTE]
Google it doofus.
[QUOTE=PeroAntic;14553442]No they don't obliterate him, they beat him by a slight margin. It was already explained how in previous cases the player with the best stats doesn't win. it seems its hard for people to understand what a 'combination of factors' means. Maybe you will learn one day.[/QUOTE]
Jokic BPM 13.9
Morant BPM 6.3
Jokic win shares 12
Morant win shares 6.6
Jokic VORP 7.7
Morant VORP 3.7
Just a slight difference......
:roll:
[QUOTE=tontoz;14553449]Jokic BPM 13.9
Morant BPM 6.3
Jokic win shares 12
Morant win shares 6.6
Jokic VORP 7.7
Morant VORP 3.7
Just a slight difference......
:roll:[/QUOTE]
Jokic is a historical outlier, he obliterates any player ever, but that shows the limit of advanced stats first of all, and secondly, he already won MVP so there is fatigue. What Jokic is doing is not new to what he did before, as opposed to Ja.
What matters is that Ja's advanced stats are strong enough to win, when other factors are taken into consideration.
[QUOTE=tontoz;14553437]Seriously Jokic's win shares/BPM/VORP are double Morant's. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Morunt mur exciting!!!!!
[QUOTE=PeroAntic;14553404]Its a proven fact you dingus. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Absolutely is true.
OFCOURSE Axe is fighting this :facepalm:facepalm:roll::roll:
[QUOTE=PeroAntic;14553456]Jokic is a historical outlier, he obliterates any player ever, but that shows the limit of advanced stats first of all, and secondly, he already won MVP so there is fatigue. What Jokic is doing is not new to what he did before, as opposed to Ja.
What matters is that Ja's advanced stats are strong enough to win, when other factors are taken into consideration.[/QUOTE]
No they aren't. Comparing Morant to Embiid there is a huge gap in advanced stats.
Morant has the best highlights but has no case for MVP.
Soggy m8
[QUOTE=tontoz;14553472]No they aren't. Comparing Morant to Embiid there is a huge gap in advanced stats.
Morant has the best highlights but has no case for MVP.[/QUOTE]
Embiid has Harden and the Sixers haven't been as good as Memphis. And highlights are part of the case for MVP. next
[QUOTE=tontoz;14553437]Seriously Jokic's win shares/BPM/VORP are double Morant's. :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
Jokic's not winning MVP. MVP, whether you guys want to admit it or not, almost always has an element to winning in it. Jokic won last year with his team as a 3rd seed. How valuable is if his team finishes as the 6th seed? I give him a 1% chance.