The Tucker Carlson Vladimir Putin Interview

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14883208]So being a fan of the guy that eliminated free elections in Russia and currently is causing hundreds of thousands of deaths plus the kidnapping of tens of thousands of Ukrainian children just for fun... liking this guy makes you a deep thinker?

It's like you miss being called a stupid asshole.[/QUOTE]

I don't "like" Putin. I've literally never followed or endorsed him in any way. But I do like to hear both sides of the story and not just just American and European propaganda which is obviously tilted as all hell.

Like I said before though... youre an idiot that only follows one side in this geo politic discussion. Any story from the other side you immediately dismiss and use buzz words like dictator and nazi ad hominems as your justification for plugging your fat little fingers in your ears.

I'm not into that.

[QUOTE=tpols;14883218]I don't "like" Putin. I've literally never followed or endorsed him in any way. But I do like to hear both sides of the story and not just just American and European propaganda which is obviously tilted as all hell.

Like I said before though... youre an idiot that only follows one side in this geo politic discussion. Any story from the other side you immediately dismiss and use buzz words like dictator and nazi ad hominems as your justification for plugging your fat little fingers in your ears.

I'm not into that.[/QUOTE]

What have I said about Putin that isn't true you stupid asshole? Are you saying that he hasn't had his political opponents arrested and killed? Didn't launch the war on Ukraine? Russian elections are free?

You still don't get it. :oldlol:

None of our elections are free. Everything is planned top down. You're too naive and stupid to see that though.

USA military has also killed more people around the world than Russia has and whistle blowers get "suicided" left and right here.

Go ask Eric Snowden what happens when you tell the truth about the USA government, fool. He was a top intelligence agent for our government.

[QUOTE=tpols;14883224]You still don't get it. :oldlol:

None of our elections are free. Everything is planned top down. You're too naive and stupid to see that though.

USA military has also killed more people around the world than Russia has and whistle blowers get "suicided" left and right here.

Go ask Eric Snowden what happens when you tell the truth about the USA government, fool. He was a top intelligence agent for our government.[/QUOTE] Anyone stupid enough that they can't tell the difference between America and Russia should go live there. Joe Biden hasn't had Trump poisoned and can't just lock him up for running against him. Eric Snowden chose to leak classified military intelligence. That's a crime. And that's why Putin, an enemy of the United States, is giving him safe harbor. Every country does dirt, including ours, but Putin's tyranny is on another level regardless of the fact you're too stupid that fact.

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Russia now controls the pro-russia territories in Eastern Ukraine like donbas. What's next if Putin has no intention of capturing all of Ukraine? Will they stop the offensive or will they not stop until the Ukrainian government in Kiev is toppled?[/QUOTE]

i don't know. one can only speculate. you know as well as i do that war is unpredictable and has the potential to escalate in any number of ways, especially a war as protracted as this one with two great nuclear powers involved and both so heavily invested at this point.

if i'm correct in my assessment that russia's primary reason for this war is their seeing nato encroachment as an existential threat, then putin will not be satisfied until the west comes forward with a settlement declaring that ukraine will remain a neutral state and there will be regime change in kiev. in their view, defeat is unacceptable. either that, or ukrainian leaders will take initiative, stand up against western pressure and push for neutralization themselves. the third scenario would involve washington pulling funding & munitions from ukraine and as i mentioned, coming to the table and caving to russia's demands. none of these scenarios look likely to happen. in other words, there's no diplomatic solution to this war in sight.

with that in mind, again, there's the potential for further escalation. with neither side backing down or coming to a peace agreement, we could see us troops on the ground if putin continues to hold the upper hand and push further west. on the other hand, if putin somehow loses that upper hand and gets pushed back into a corner, there's the possibility that he could use nukes as a last resort in order to rescue the situation. you also have the prospect of poland getting involved militarily if putin is forced to continue his offensive, which would officially put russia at war with nato.

so the stakes are high for both sides and thus neither side can afford to lose. this conflict is unique in that two great nuclear powers are involved. if this turns into more than just a proxy war between the west and russia and there's no diplomatic agreement reached, the possibilities can be catastrophic.

[QUOTE=tpols;14883224]You still don't get it. :oldlol:

None of our elections are free. Everything is planned top down. You're too naive and stupid to see that though.

USA military has also killed more people around the world than Russia has and whistle blowers get "suicided" left and right here.

Go ask Eric Snowden what happens when you tell the truth about the USA government, fool. He was a top intelligence agent for our government.[/QUOTE]

None of our elections are free? Could you please explain further?

How are you comparing our elections to Russia's? Putin got 80% of the popular votes in the 2018 election because those two running against him are his supporters :lol

Anyone who wants to campaign in Russia must apply to run with their election board, and the board decides who is allowed to run. They don't allow anyone to run who disagrees with Russian policy. If you have enough support, they find a reason to jail you for years on bogus charges like "extremism" like the dude in 2018. The Russian courts have no power over the election board. It's not a democracy there.

[QUOTE=diamenz;14883242]i don't know. one can only speculate. you know as well as i do that war is unpredictable and has the potential to escalate in any number of ways, especially a war as protracted as this one with two great nuclear powers involved and both so heavily invested at this point.

if i'm correct in my assessment that russia's primary reason for this war is their seeing nato encroachment as an existential threat, then putin will not be satisfied until the west comes forward with a settlement declaring that ukraine will remain a neutral state and there will be regime change in kiev. in their view, defeat is unacceptable. either that, or ukrainian leaders will take initiative, stand up against western pressure and push for neutralization themselves. the third scenario would involve washington pulling funding & munitions from ukraine and as i mentioned, coming to the table and caving to russia's demands. none of these scenarios look likely to happen. in other words, there's no diplomatic solution to this war in sight.

with that in mind, again, there's the potential for further escalation. with neither side backing down or coming to a peace agreement, we could see us troops on the ground if putin continues to hold the upper hand and push further west. on the other hand, if putin somehow loses that upper hand and gets backed into a corner, there's the possibility that he would use nukes as a last resort in order to rescue the situation. you also have the prospect of poland getting involved militarily if putin is forced to continue his offensive.

so the stakes are incredibly high for both sides and thus neither side can afford to lose. this conflict is unique in two nuclear great powers are involved. if this turns into more than just a proxy war between the west and russia and there's no diplomatic agreement reached, the possibilities can be catastrophic.[/QUOTE]

Russia is not doing so great so far. Most expected the war to last a few months. Nobody thought Ukraine would last a couple years with Russia stuck on the outskirts of the nation, holding perhaps 20% of Ukraine at most. I don't see Russia fighting forever if they are unable to take reach Kiev government. As I mentioned above, nato has also gotten larger since the war began so now Russia has even more nato along its borders.

Do you not think the US election could have a big impact on what Russia does depending on who wins?

[QUOTE=bladefd;14883245]Russia is not doing so great so far. Most expected the war to last a few months. Nobody thought Ukraine would last a couple years with Russia stuck on the outskirts of the nation, holding perhaps 20% of Ukraine at most. I don't see Russia fighting forever if they are unable to take reach Kiev government. As I mentioned above, nato has also gotten larger since the war began so now Russia has even more nato along its borders.

Do you not think the US election could have a big impact on what Russia does depending on who wins?[/QUOTE]

putin is moving slowly and deliberately at this point. he has no interest in pushing any further west and having to govern hard-minded ukrainians on the other side of the dnieper. if he takes more territory, it will be kharkov and odessa and if necessary kiev for the sole purpose of regime change.

russia is winning this war and you could make the argument that it's already won - it's more or less achieved it's military objectives. if putin pushes any further west, it won't be for the purpose of occupying territory - it will be to pressure the west into coming to the table. the ukrainian counter offensive is over. there are pregnant women, teenage boys and seventy-year old men hunkered down in defensive positions on the battlefield. russia's economy is humming and can continue on as long as deemed necessary. this is joe biden's war now - the onus is on him.

[QUOTE]Do you not think the US election could have a big impact on what Russia does depending on who wins?[/QUOTE]

trump taking office could only be better for a path to peace. like i said, joe biden and the foreign policy establishment (the globalists), are so heavily invested ideologically, materially and rhetorically that any alternative at this point would be better for all sides involved.

[QUOTE=bladefd;14883244]None of our elections are free? Could you please explain further?[/QUOTE]

You seriously don't see how big money interests, corruption and nepotism determine our "presidents" and political leaders on both sides?

How we have George Bush Sr. win, then his son George Bush Jr. wins, then Bill Clinton wins, then Bill Clinton's wife almost wins, then Obama wins, then Obamas VP wins, and now Obamas wife is running... :lol

I mean... it's just totally absurd. These are all puppets. Every single one of them are blackmailed puppets Trump included.

If you're too naive to see this voting system was directly implemented to give you the illusion of choice I don't know what to tell you. Your naivety is too extreme to break through like RMWG.



I'm just some random stupid asshole though so don't take it from me. :roll:

[QUOTE=tpols;14883253]and now Obamas wife is running... :lol
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So you get that from the same source as Doomsday Dallas?
[URL="https://twitter.com/EricKleefeld/status/1755239492028379558"]
Even your boy Karl Rove doesn't think so.[/URL]

[QUOTE=BurningHammer;14883261]So you get that from the same source as Doomsday Dallas?
[URL="https://twitter.com/EricKleefeld/status/1755239492028379558"]
Even your boy Karl Rove doesn't think so.[/URL][/QUOTE]

I just heard it in passing but... yea way to nitpick away from the general point that nepotism runs this country on both sides Democrat and republican. You didn't address any of the other names all connected. Nice job pal.

[QUOTE=bladefd;14883244]None of our elections are free? Could you please explain further?

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He thinks Klaus Schwab runs the entire planet and no one else has any say in anything.

Do you guys think that Tucker should be sanctioned by the European Union, and also banned from reentering the United States?

[QUOTE=jstern;14883369]Do you guys think that Tucker should be sanctioned by the European Union, and also banned from reentering the United States?[/QUOTE]

I would settle for public whipping.

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