Zach Edey MONSTER 30 points and 21 rebounds performance in March Madness first round

If you knew what skill was you'd see that Edey has exceptional off-ball movement and positioning. He's legitimately one of the best ever at post-pinning and sealing in the paint.

[QUOTE=GimmeThat;14896544]how about this, we'll let Zach be your personal physical training coach and guru. And every time you can't lose body fat or gain muscle, you'll sleep in a doggy cage and post those pictures on social media.

let me guess, you just pooped and piss your pants because Zach banging your loose a-hole to help you lose weight probably isn't gonna pass this test.

odd a guy who can't even work at McDonalds got a gimmick called BarberSchool[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;14897044]If you knew what skill was you'd see that Edey has exceptional off-ball movement and positioning. He's legitimately one of the best ever at post-pinning and sealing in the paint.[/QUOTE]

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It isn't hard to pin a 19 yr old he outweighs by 50+ pounds. It isn't so easy in the NBA.

Embiid and Jokic can't routinely post up right in front of the rim because they have grown NBA players guarding them.

If Edey has such good mobility I would think he wouldn't be letting guys score right in front of him.

Zach outweighs the average NBA center by 50+ pounds. I don't think you realize how big he is.

[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;14897048]Zach outweighs the average NBA center by 50+ pounds. I don't think you realize how big he is.[/QUOTE]


I understand just fine. Ever heard of Yao Ming? Pretty much the same size, probably bigger legs, who had to rely on skill because he couldn't just post guys up right in front of the rim.

Yao had a legit jumper. He could hit it straight on or fading away.

Most important he didn't just let guys score right in his face.

I've asked you this twice and both times you failed to answer. How many times have you actually watched edey play?

Having watched about 5 possessions of defense all I can say is…some team he’s on in the league might give up 190. And he’s way slower than I thought though I’ll wait to offer a serious take. One thing is sure. This ain’t Yao Ming or Rik Smits. He’s not quick even for giant standards. I’ll watch the rest though. Maybe I’ll see something different. Maybe he’s not warmed up yet.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855;14897688]Having watched about 5 possessions of defense all I can say is…some team he’s on in the league might give up 190. And he’s way slower than I thought though I’ll wait to offer a serious take. One thing is sure. This ain’t Yao Ming or Rik Smits. He’s not quick even for giant standards. I’ll watch the rest though. Maybe I’ll see something different. Maybe he’s not warmed up yet.[/QUOTE]


I have heard people try to rationalize his defense by saying the coach doesn't want him to pick up cheap fouls contesting shots.

Contesting shots without fouling us a skill. If the coach doesn't trust a senior to do it then I am going to assume he sucks at it.

I can get over the fact that he can't guard the perimeter but being unable to guard the interior as well is a deal breaker for me.

Good jump hook but I haven't seen any other moves from him on offense.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14897710]I have heard people try to rationalize his defense by saying the coach doesn't want him to pick up cheap fouls contesting shots.

Contesting shots without fouling us a skill. If the coach doesn't trust a senior to do it then I am going to assume he sucks at it.

I can get over the fact that he can't guard the perimeter but being unable to guard the interior as well is a deal breaker for me.

Good jump hook but I haven't seen any other moves from him on offense.[/QUOTE]
Raging about a guy projected to go in the second round this hard is weird. Let ISB be a fan of him.

[QUOTE=RRR3;14897712]Raging about a guy projected to go in the second round this hard is weird. Let ISB be a fan of him.[/QUOTE]


Some wizards fans on another board are saying we should draft him with our second first round pick. I've been arguing with them about it for a few weeks :lol and they've got me worked up.

Pretty sure ISB hasn't actually watched edey play.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14897715]Some wizards fans on another board are saying we should draft him with our second first round pick. I've been arguing with them about it for a few weeks :lol and they've got me worked up.

Pretty sure ISB hasn't actually watched edey play.[/QUOTE]
Second round picks are a crapshoot and tbh until you stop letting Kuzma and Poole take shots away from Deni and Coulibaly you’re not going anywhere anyways.

[QUOTE=RRR3;14897719]Second round picks are a crapshoot and tbh until you stop letting Kuzma and Poole take shots away from Deni and Coulibaly you’re not going anywhere anyways.[/QUOTE]

Kuzma will hopefully get traded this summer. He almost got traded to Dallas at the deadline.

Poole has done better since he moved to pg. He played most of the season at the 2 and it was a disaster. It seemed he felt the need to shoot it every time he touched it

At pg he has the ball in his hands consistently and doesn't take as many bad shots, but still takes a few. He has been decent at setting up other guys. With that contract we are stuck with him.

Not worried about Deni he's been doing fine. Bilal is awful at finishing inside and very turnover prone. He needs to improve over the summer so he can handle higher usage.

You can disagree about Edey's prospects as a pro. I'm not sure why you have to be so hostile about it. I feel like you have a fetish for a certain [i]aesthetic[/i] of player, and if one doesn't fit that mold, you display an irrational hatred for said individual. You act as if it's blasphemous when the general consensus is that he's a borderline lottery pick at this point. Lock for 1st round according to what Givony has heard from executives.

Here's a 3+ minute highlight reel of Edey on defense from Corey Tulaba (No Ceilings):

[url]https://twitter.com/CoreyTulaba/status/1776285331077124682[/url]

[QUOTE]Not the most popular place to own real estate, but I’m on Zach Edey island. Edey has unquestionably been dominant during his college career but questions remain about his place in the modern NBA. Most of those questions come via the defensive side of the ball, as evaluators ponder whether Edey has the movement skills to not get cooked every possession. I believe that Edey is going to figure it out. Edey is just straight up more mobile than you would think a 7’3” 300+ pound giant would be. Plus, he plays hard and is a smart basketball player. Pair that with a 7’10.5” wingspan and you have a guy who is going to figure it out. Yes, shifty guards with a bag will freeze him from time to time. Guys will make shots over his outstretched contests. Teams will try to find ways to pull him out to the perimeter. This is true of every big man prospect. A DPOY award may not be in the cards, but Edey has shown he’s capable of adjusting to it. Edey will also present as many mismatches on the other end of the floor. He is not done developing as a prospect himself. I’m buying Edey stock.

TLDR — The 2X National player of the Year is good actually.[/QUOTE]

Jonathon Givony (DraftExpress) has him as a lottery pick at the moment.

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ISB what do you think Edey would put up in the 90s?

I've watched him play. I've seen Edey's defense and posted multiple clips of him just letting guys score inside without any contest at all.

Edey was the player of the year last season and was still seen as a second round pick.

[QUOTE=tontoz;14897721]Kuzma will hopefully get traded this summer. He almost got traded to Dallas at the deadline.

Poole has done better since he moved to pg. He played most of the season at the 2 and it was a disaster. It seemed he felt the need to shoot it every time he touched it

At pg he has the ball in his hands consistently and doesn't take as many bad shots, but still takes a few. He has been decent at setting up other guys. With that contract we are stuck with him.

Not worried about Deni he's been doing fine. Bilal is awful at finishing inside and very turnover prone. He needs to improve over the summer so he can handle higher usage.[/QUOTE]
Deni absolutely needs more shots than he’s getting. Poole has been better but still not what I was expecting. I’ve never been high on Poole as a player as I don’t like guys who play the way he does (same reason I get sick of Tyler Herro) but I expected like 25 PPG on 55 TS% or something. He’s nowhere near that.