Is Kamala Harris actually going to become president?

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14933815]Q: Is Kamala Harris actually going to become president?

[url]https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-hits-record-lead-over-trump-new-poll-shows-1934880[/url]

Certainly looks that way now[/QUOTE]

Things are looking better but Bush and Trump have both won the presidency while losing the popular vote. And there's still 3 months for something bad to happen, like if this downturn becomes a recession and Biden/Harris get the blame. And they may be plotting something with their Supreme Court majority.

But I do give Biden credit for swallowing his pride and stepping aside for the greater good. There is no way Trump would do something like that and if he takes the ABC debate he's going to come out of it in the same spot Biden was in. Not that Vance would have any shot but if they had chosen Haley this might already be over.

[IMG]https://i.redd.it/68622vofu4hd1.jpeg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=BurningHammer;14933856][IMG]https://i.redd.it/68622vofu4hd1.jpeg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

You're the wrestling dweeb, you can't tell that Trump is in a bigger arena? :facepalm

[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing;14933870]You're the wrestling dweeb, you can't tell that Trump is in a bigger arena? :facepalm[/QUOTE]

Sadly, it is the same arena; Liacouras Center at Temple University.

[url]https://whyy.org/articles/election-2024-trump-rally-temple-university-protests/[/url]

[url]https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/vice-president-kamala-harris-campaign-liacouras-center-north-philadelphia-temple-university/[/url]

[QUOTE=BurningHammer;14933882]Sadly, it is the same arena; Liacouras Center at Temple University.

[url]https://whyy.org/articles/election-2024-trump-rally-temple-university-protests/[/url]

[url]https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/vice-president-kamala-harris-campaign-liacouras-center-north-philadelphia-temple-university/[/url][/QUOTE]
Hippopottapatty is retarded :yaohappy:

This Tim Walz guy seems pretty sharp. They're gonna just crush Trump and Vance. I was just observing up till Walz had his speech. Didn't really seem to be a clear direction for the election until now. There's no path to out-competing Harris and Walz for those stupid independents who would've actually voted for Trump over Biden but would actually consider a democrat. If they would even consider any democrat, they're probably voting for Harris.

But Harris and Walz are just not retarded or loaded with baggage or anything. I expect Harris to just just keep gaining momentum. And if Trump does and says stupid shit under the pressure of the momentum I think he'll make it worse.

Trump needs an angle dummies can eat up fast. He needs something to tie Harris and Walz to that sticks. Otherwise they're just gonna talk circles around them.

[QUOTE=999Guy;14933891]This Tim Walz guy seems pretty sharp. They're gonna just crush Trump and Vance. I was just observing up till Walz had his speech. Didn't really seem to be a clear direction for the election until now. There's no path to out-competing Harris and Walz for those stupid independents who would've actually voted for Trump over Biden but would actually consider a democrat. If they would even consider any democrat, they're probably voting for Harris.

But Harris and Walz are just not retarded or loaded with baggage or anything. I expect Harris to just just keep gaining momentum. And if Trump does and says stupid shit under the pressure of the momentum I think he'll make it worse.

Trump needs an angle dummies can eat up fast. He needs something to tie Harris and Walz to that sticks. Otherwise they're just gonna talk circles around them.[/QUOTE]

yeah the dems are making noise in the media rn and have the momentum. polls are up too. the republicans would have been a lot better off running against joe at this point. although this is the honeymoon period for the harris campaign so there's that to keep in consideration.

...i really don't know what vance brings to the table for trump. i can think of a handful of better picks.

[QUOTE=diamenz;14933901]yeah the dems are making noise in the media rn and have the momentum. polls are up too. the republicans would have been a lot better off running against joe at this point. although this is the honeymoon period for the harris campaign so there's that to keep in consideration.

...i really don't know what vance brings to the table for trump. i can think of a handful of better picks.[/QUOTE]

I think for Trump, Vance bring continuity and loyalty as he brings a lot of the same views and vision. In other words, he's prepped to be Trump's successor just like Biden was Obama's successor. They might underestimate Kamala that much that they don't think they need more votes. And that might be proven correct, we'll see in a couple months.

[QUOTE=Real Men Wear Green;14933819]Things are looking better but Bush and Trump have both won the presidency while losing the popular vote. And there's still 3 months for something bad to happen, like if this downturn becomes a recession and Biden/Harris get the blame. And they may be plotting something with their Supreme Court majority.

But I do give Biden credit for swallowing his pride and stepping aside for the greater good. There is no way Trump would do something like that and if he takes the ABC debate he's going to come out of it in the same spot Biden was in. Not that Vance would have any shot but if they had chosen Haley this might already be over.[/QUOTE]

The next Q GDP is projected to come in around +2.5% growth. No recession in sight so far. Also we have the prospect of the FED cutting rates soon which will cause a boost in the economy.

As far as the electoral college goes, Kamala is out-polling Trump in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. Those are the important ones. Trump still has Arizona, Georgia, and Nevada. Less important.

Anything can happen, and we can see positions change in the blink of an eye with one event (like a failed assassination) However right now it's looking really good for the Dems.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14933926]
As far as the electoral college goes, Kamala is out-polling Trump in [B]Wisconsin, Pennsylvania[/B], and Michigan. Those are the important ones. Trump still has Arizona, Georgia, and Nevada. Less important.[/QUOTE]

Wrong

[url]https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/pennsylvania/trump-vs-harris[/url]
[url]https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/wisconsin/trump-vs-harris[/url]

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14933928]Wrong

[url]https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/pennsylvania/trump-vs-harris[/url]
[url]https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/wisconsin/trump-vs-harris[/url][/QUOTE]

[url]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/wisconsin/[/url]
[url]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/[/url]


538 is showing Harris winning both states, but fair point that other polls are showing other things.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14933932][url]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/wisconsin/[/url]
[url]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/[/url]


538 is showing Harris winning both states, but fair point that other polls are showing other things.[/QUOTE]

The same 538 that predicted Hillary to beat Trump? lol.

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14933935]The same 538 that predicted Hillary to beat Trump? lol.[/QUOTE]

They predicted her to win the popular vote and she did. I don't recall their breakdown of the swing states. And 538 themselves are not polling, they are averaging out other polls.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;14933938]They predicted her to win the popular vote and she did. I don't recall their breakdown of the swing states.[/QUOTE]

[url]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/[/url]

[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;14933942][url]https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/[/url][/QUOTE]
Okay fair enough, polls aren't prefect and they were off there. I will say though that they were much more on-target with the 2020 election. Maybe the 2016 election caused them to refine their methods.

Either way I'm not viewing the polls as certainty.