Trump kicks Zelensky out of the White House.

[QUOTE=ArbitraryWater;14982243]This is the most real open talk among politicians Ive ever seen.


Goat.[/QUOTE]

I hope I’m wrong but I really don’t understand why a German would be watching this thinking it’s cute. If shit hits the fan, which it very well seems it is. Germany will be Russia’s end game to the war this is about to start.

Germany will be the prize. They invade Poland, terrorize Finland, and try to stomp through Romania and co, but Germany is the end game.

Germany doesn’t even have nukes. They almost certainly look to get their own arsenal at this rate. Which is almost certainly going to make the planet tremendously more dangerous.

It’s insane the regression Trump has caused geopolitically. And insane how stupid and comfortable people are taking world peace for granted.

[QUOTE=highwhey;14982356]sure. much in the same way that inviting over someone to dinner and ambushing them with low brow questions and attacking them verbally.

the rest of the world will see this and will be driven away from meeting trump in the white house. this is actually terrible for the US. it's tarnishing the reputation of the white house's history for making deals with foreign leaders and businesses.[/QUOTE]

The Biden admin gaslighted this war. Sold them all kinds of cheap weapons to kick it off and now (3y later) US pulls all the way back. Even insults the former client as a fake tough guy. The Americans are just as bad as the Russians when it comes to reliability.

[QUOTE=diamenz;14982374]i'm not quite sure what a lot of you guys are arguing for at this point. ukraine has no chance of winning this war short of us putting troops on the ground. in that scenario, if we were to begin to pushing putin back and ultimately taking back ukraine, putin would use the threat of nuclear attacks against ukraine because moscow sees this conflict as being existential to their country. so this is a lose/lose situation for ukraine and it may as well end now while, as trump said, zelensky still has somewhat of a country left. we never should have gotten ukraine into this mess. this is OUR fault (as well as europe's).

so if you're arguing for more war, you're just arguing for more death and destruction with zero return on investment. it's over.[/QUOTE]

So, what is the end game then? Russia just takes over the planet by threatening to suicide bomb the world?

Are you people ****ing stupid? You don’t negotiate with terrorists. Moron ****ing Trump who’s never learned foreign policy a day in his life, doesn’t understand this and is free styling the ****ing thing and treating it like it’s a shitty low level business deal. ****ing minerals.

Russia has violated so many agreements, ceasefire after ceasefire, committed countless crimes in every possible way you can imagine. There is no ****ing peace deal with them.

And if you just give them Ukraine, guess what **** nuts? They will be bordering 5 MORE NATO countries through their annexation of Ukraine. Which kind of defeats this whole bullshit argument about NATO being a ‘threat’. Their incursion is only getting closer to NATO. Realistically, Russia is blatantly an imperialistic shithole country full of weak, low character individuals(much like US conservatives), that is on a death race for world domination one way or another. And placating them for a few years, and allowing them to rebuild is a guaranteed disaster for the planet.

[QUOTE=brownmamba00;14982451]The Biden admin gaslighted this war. Sold them all kinds of cheap weapons to kick it off and now (3y later) US pulls all the way back. Even insults the former client as a fake tough guy. The Americans are just as bad as the Russians when it comes to reliability.[/QUOTE]

the past is not lost on me, trust me. but this trump bullying ukraine into giving up their land and minerals is no better than the biden directive. and i openly criticized our involvement and "aid" of ukraine during the biden admin. doing putin's dirty legwork feels extremely wrong. also feels wrong to publicly ambush another world leader, tweet that a deal has been before it has only to apply pressure on zelensky, etc. all that sh1t is classic manipulation, and it's a textbook bullying. there's absolutely zero diplomacy in their approach, vance should shut da fukk up trying to talk how zelensky should be more diplomatic...seriously? the entire administration is a circus with no thought, appreciation, or intention of being diplomatic.

[QUOTE=999Guy;14982453][B]So, what is the end game then? Russia just takes over the planet by threatening to suicide bomb the world?[/B]

Are you people ****ing stupid? You don’t negotiate with terrorists. Moron ****ing Trump who’s never learned foreign policy a day in his life, doesn’t understand this and is free styling the ****ing thing and treating it like it’s a shitty low level business deal. ****ing minerals.

Russia has violated so many agreements, ceasefire after ceasefire, committed countless crimes in every possible way you can imagine. There is no ****ing peace deal with them.

And if you just give them Ukraine, guess what **** nuts? They will be bordering 5 MORE NATO countries through their annexation of Ukraine. Which kind of defeats this whole bullshit argument about NATO being a ‘threat’. Their incursion is only getting closer to NATO. Realistically, Russia is blatantly an imperialistic shithole country full of weak, low character individuals(much like US conservatives), that is on a death race for world domination one way or another. And placating them for a few years, and allowing them to rebuild is a guaranteed disaster for the planet.[/QUOTE]

:roll:

This guy is peak mental illness

[QUOTE=RRR3;14982411]And history will remember people on media moderator's side just as badly as they remembered them last time. But they're too stupid to realize this.[/QUOTE]

You don't know WTF you're talking about. You stand for nothing. You certainly don't have solutions or contributions. Whether the world goes left or right, up or down, people like you will be worthless slugs on the sidelines offering us nothing

Vance is stupid. His face is more punchable than Trump. I wish Zelensky challenge him to a boxing match

[QUOTE=highwhey;14982455]the past is not lost on me, trust me. but this trump bullying ukraine into giving up their land and minerals is no better than the biden directive. and i openly criticized our involvement and "aid" of ukraine during the biden admin. doing putin's dirty legwork feels extremely wrong. also feels wrong to publicly ambush another world leader, tweet that a deal has been before it has only to apply pressure on zelensky, etc. all that sh1t is classic manipulation, and it's a textbook bullying. there's absolutely zero diplomacy in their approach, vance should shut da fukk up trying to talk how zelensky should be more diplomatic...seriously? the entire administration is a circus with no thought, appreciation, or intention of being diplomatic.[/QUOTE]



Highwey can't be taken seriously. He expects the US to watch trade deficits expand without doing anything. Watch basically unchecked illegal immigration without doing anything. Let the US be a doormat for the rest of the world without getting anything back in return. He cries like baby, and offers no solutions or compromises. He's like the worst girlfriend you can possibly have.

[QUOTE=Lebron23;14982466]Vance is stupid. His face is more punchable than Trump. I wish Zelensky challenge him to a boxing match[/QUOTE]

This guy reminds me of a growling Chihuahua

[QUOTE=Media Moderator;14982471]This guy reminds me of a growling Chihuahua[/QUOTE]

I'll personally surgically remove Donald Trump's dick from your butt. Did Trump gave you a job? You worthless bum

[QUOTE=Lebron23;14982474]I'll personally surgically remove Donald Trump's dick from your butt. Did Trump gave you a job? You worthless bum[/QUOTE]

Calm down baldy. I will personally go over to your hut and Anchorman Jack Black punt your ass to Taiwan

I hate Bullies. JD Vance looks like the kid who got bullied in high school and became a bully in college.

[QUOTE=Lebron23;14982479]I hate Bullies. JD Vance looks like the kid who got bullied in high school and became a bully in college.[/QUOTE]

yep

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gk56IEobQAYe29_?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG]

:yaohappy:

[QUOTE=Lebron23;14982479]I hate Bullies. JD Vance looks like the kid who got bullied in high school and became a bully in college.[/QUOTE]

You are tough enough to hang around in ISH, which is full of bullies. Not bad.