ESPN's Around The Horn goes out with a whimper, dies on the woke mountain

You pretend to care about girls sports, because tribal politics told you to.

This topic right here, no matter which side you are on, brings out the sheep.

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15004805]Genderless society? How many trans people do you personally know? My kids all played sports, this issue didn't come up even once. Out of literally thousands of games. Basketball, soccer, baseball, softball.

Also, society would still have the same amount of them if they played sports or not lol. Use logic.[/QUOTE]

Are you using logic? In the last 10 years we've seen the number of people who identify as trans increase a hundred fold. You think that happened by accident? You don't think the mainstream promotion of transgenderism had anything to do with that?

Trans athletes are the minority for the time being but the goal of the movement has always been to encourage more people and more kids to come out as trans, therefore your argument is totally moot and we have to draw a hard line in the sand before that number increases.

But hey since it's really just about numbers to you and not some underlying principle, how many male players would you allow on a WNBA roster? I'm sure there are plenty of guys coming out of college who fell just short of making the NBA who would love the chance to travel and play professionally.

So how many male players on each team would you allow? One? Two? How many is too many?

Hmm, transphobia in action. :cletus:

[QUOTE=BurningHammer;15004878]Hmm, transphobia in action. :cletus:[/QUOTE]

This guy still thinks it's 2015 and the cool kids are all on the pro-tranny train. :oldlol:

Sorry buddy, you guys lost this one. You're on the wrong side of history with the mentally disturbed losers and weirdos.

History will mock you for all time.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15004818]Are you using logic? In the last 10 years we've seen the number of people who identify as trans increase a hundred fold. You think that happened by accident? You don't think the mainstream promotion of transgenderism had anything to do with that?

Trans athletes are the minority for the time being but the goal of the movement has always been to encourage more people and more kids to come out as trans, therefore your argument is totally moot and we have to draw a hard line in the sand before that number increases.
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This.

But far left libs are calling it “evolution”


The fact that 1 out of 5 kids identify as LGBTQ is not the type of progress going in the right direction. They’d love to see that number grow to 1 out of every 3.

This is an issue of morals, not sports… and we are not here to celebrate and promote mental illness which is what these gender issues are really about: mental health.


If you have the choice for your child to be gay or straight… the common far left liberal answer is that it doesn’t matter…. But any straight man saying that is full of shit, you’d want your child to be straight if you had any common sense…. But now we’re going even further than that and supporting gender affirming care for minors which is absolutely ridiculous.

Yes, a hard line in the sand has to be drawn.

[QUOTE=BurningHammer;15004878]Hmm, transphobia in action. :cletus:[/QUOTE]

You just wasted everyone’s time posting this.

No one here gives a shit about weird supposed derogatory terms you literally made up out of thin air thinking it’s gonna shame people into your insane brainwashed ideology.

You are like a hall monitor or rent a cop. You have ZERO power, influence, or authority.

You can attempt to challenge the logic presented to you but you are not going to shut everything down because you don’t have a suitable response.

It might work like that in your very tiny brain but that’s not how things work in reality.

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Look at this methhead wandering around a half-dead message board insulting people. :roll::roll::roll:

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15004898]This.

But far left libs are calling it “evolution”


The fact that 1 out of 5 kids identify as LGBTQ is not the type of progress going in the right direction. They’d love to see that number grow to 1 out of every 3.

This is an issue of morals, not sports… and we are not here to celebrate and promote mental illness which is what these gender issues are really about: mental health.


If you have the choice for your child to be gay or straight… the common far left liberal answer is that it doesn’t matter…. But any straight man saying that is full of shit, you’d want your child to be straight if you had any common sense…. But now we’re going even further than that and supporting gender affirming care for minors which is absolutely ridiculous.

Yes, a hard line in the sand has to be drawn.[/QUOTE]

1 out 5 don't identify as that. The questionnaire is misleading.

Go to a grocery store, a mall, a sporting event, anything, you'll be lucky to see ONE trans person. In an entire high school there might be 2 or 3.

How many trans people do you know? Answer please. Every time I ask that question it gets ignored. Do you work with any? Do your kids know any? I mean, if it's 1 out 5 they would be everywhere right?

[QUOTE=Doomsday Dallas;15004898]This.

But far left libs are calling it “evolution”


The fact that 1 out of 5 kids identify as LGBTQ is not the type of progress going in the right direction. They’d love to see that number grow to 1 out of every 3.

This is an issue of morals, not sports… and we are not here to celebrate and promote mental illness which is what these gender issues are really about: mental health.


If you have the choice for your child to be gay or straight… the common far left liberal answer is that it doesn’t matter…. But any straight man saying that is full of shit, you’d want your child to be straight if you had any common sense…. But now we’re going even further than that and supporting gender affirming care for minors which is absolutely ridiculous.

Yes, a hard line in the sand has to be drawn.[/QUOTE]

1 out 5 don't identify as that. The questionnaire is misleading.

Go to a grocery store, a mall, a sporting event, anything, you'll be lucky to see ONE trans person. In an entire high school there might be 2 or 3.

How many trans people do you know? Answer please. Every time I ask that question it gets ignored. Do you work with any? Do your kids know any? I mean, if it's 1 out 5 they would be everywhere right?

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15005046]1 out 5 don't identify as that. The questionnaire is misleading.

Go to a grocery store, a mall, a sporting event, anything, you'll be lucky to see ONE trans person. In an entire high school there might be 2 or 3.

How many trans people do you know? Answer please. Every time I ask that question it gets ignored. Do you work with any? Do your kids know any? I mean, if it's 1 out 5 they would be everywhere right?[/QUOTE]

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[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/news/one-five-adult-members-gen-z-self-identifies-lgbtq-rcna36147[/url]
[b]1 in 5 adult members of Gen Z self-identify as LGBTQ[/b]




It's 1 out of 5 for Gen Z.... LGBQT.


but let me guess... you consider that progress right?

More LGBQT children = Liberal Progress

[QUOTE=Bill Gates;15005046]1 out 5 don't identify as that. The questionnaire is misleading.

Go to a grocery store, a mall, a sporting event, anything, you'll be lucky to see ONE trans person. In an entire high school there might be 2 or 3.

How many trans people do you know? Answer please. Every time I ask that question it gets ignored. Do you work with any? Do your kids know any? I mean, if it's 1 out 5 they would be everywhere right?[/QUOTE]

Why does it matter how many there are? We're not against boys in girls sports as it pertains to numbers, we're against it in theory and in principle. It doesn't matter if it's one boy on the girl's team or five. One is too many.

I couldn't help but notice you dodged my question before so I will pose it to you again. Since it's really just about numbers to you, how many male players do you think should be allowed in the WNBA? Are you okay with one male player per team? Two male players? Three?

How many male players is too many before people have a right to complain?

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[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/news/one-five-adult-members-gen-z-self-identifies-lgbtq-rcna36147[/url]
[b]1 in 5 adult members of Gen Z self-identify as LGBTQ[/b]




It's 1 out of 5 for Gen Z.... LGBQT.


but let me guess... you consider that progress right?[/QUOTE]

Chicken or the egg situation, as always.

There are of course certain issues with the way it is portrayed for children but not to the level I think some believe there are. The Millennial numbers tell you more than anything else here. In 2014 the youngest millennials were what, 16-17? And it's doubled since then? That tells me that people are now simply more people willing (and proud I guess) to come out because most were then adults.

In college one of my girlfriend's (now wife's) good friends was gay and hearing him tell stories at the time you'd be shocked at the amount of "straight" fraternity dudes at the University of Georgia had secret hook-ups with him. Less ashamed to admit it these days I suppose. Particularly with an anonymous poll.

Also, is that poll directed at a certain population? Who's answering it?

Again, not to say there aren't issues but those viewing that increase purely as indoctrination or whatever don't know the whole picture.

Trans is ONE letter in the acronym, most LGBTQ people are not trans :hammerhead:

I can't believe I had to post this

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15005085]Chicken or the egg situation, as always.

There are of course certain issues with the way it is portrayed for children but not to the level I think some believe there are. The Millennial numbers tell you more than anything else here. In 2014 the youngest millennials were what, 16-17? And it's doubled since then? That tells me that people are now simply more people willing (and proud I guess) to come out because most were then adults.

In college one of my girlfriend's (now wife's) good friends was gay and hearing him tell stories at the time you'd be shocked at the amount of "straight" fraternity dudes at the University of Georgia had secret hook-ups with him. Less ashamed to admit it these days I suppose. Particularly with an anonymous poll.

Also, is that poll directed at a certain population? Who's answering it?

Again, not to say there aren't issues but those viewing that increase purely as indoctrination or whatever don't know the whole picture.[/QUOTE]





I've already addressed this issue... it's not more people are willing to come out...

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