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[QUOTE=diamenz;15008997][B][SIZE=4]i don't know [/SIZE][/B]to be honest chewing. my response would have initially been something similar but after emotions settled i definitely wouldn't have taken it this far.[/QUOTE]
The **** did I just tell you bruh?? You better not say you don't know what Israel's response should have been while you actually criticize Israel's response.
what more do you need to hear?
[video=youtube;HCkVGJY_gG8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCkVGJY_gG8[/video]
@Baller234 @Patrick Chewing
i've been thinking about this today because this is a subject that bothers me on a moral level. it's clear that we're not going to agree on most things related and that's fine because this is a polarizing subject for obvious reasons, whatever they may be according to the individual(s).
if we could focus on what we [B]can[/B] agree on and leave it at that, that's progress. the loss of innocent life on either side. i said it in a previous post and i'll say it again because it's the easiest thing in the world for me to do.
[B]i have no issue [U]willingly[/U] condemning hamas for all of the innocents that they've killed, tortured, held hostage, whatever, what-have-you, before, on and after oct 7th. dead innocent jews/israelis is something nobody, [U]including myself[/U] wants to see, [u]period, full-stop, no excuses[/u].[/B]
if there's anything you'd like me to add to that, within reason, i have no problem doing it.
i ask you to meet me halfway.[U] *uck the noise you hear from the media, [B]anybody here[/B] and anybody on the left that says otherwise. you're having a back & forth with me here and me alone[/U]. [B][U]if[/U][/B] there's any intentional killing, intent to kill, injure or intentionally starve innocent brown women and children on the part of the israeli government, you'd have no problem condemning this i assume. [I]i ask you to be thorough and complete with your condemnation as i was. [/I]
let's meet each other halfway and end this conversation on a positive note. because i'd be fine and content with that and i assume you would too. am i not being reasonable?
[QUOTE=diamenz;15009202]@Baller234 @Patrick Chewing
i've been thinking about this today because this is a subject that bothers me on a moral level. it's clear that we're not going to agree on most things related and that's fine because this is a polarizing subject for obvious reasons, whatever they may be according to the individual(s).
if we could focus on what we [B]can[/B] agree on and leave it at that, that's progress. the loss of innocent life on either side. i said it in a previous post and i'll say it again because it's the easiest thing in the world for me to do.
[B]i have no issue [U]willingly[/U] condemning hamas for all of the innocents that they've killed, tortured, held hostage, what-have-you, before, on and after oct 7th. dead innocent jews/israelis is something nobody, [U]including myself[/U] wants to see, [u]period, full-stop, no excuses[/u].[/B]
if there's anything you'd like me to add to that, within reason, i have no problem doing it.
i ask you to meet me halfway.[U] *uck the noise you hear from the media, anybody here and anybody on the left that says otherwise. you're having a back & forth with me here and me alone[/U]. [B][U]if[/U][/B] there's any intentional killing, intent to kill, or injure innocent brown people on the part of the israeli government, you'd have no problem condemning this i assume. i ask you to be thorough and complete with your condemnation as i was.
let's meet each other halfway and end this conversation on a positive note. because i'd be fine and content with that and i assume you would too. am i not being reasonable?[/QUOTE]
What? Palestine obviously started the conflict between the two nations on October 7th, 2023. Israel was just minding their own business before that..
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15009203]What? Palestine obviously started the conflict between the two nations on October 7th, 2023. Israel was just minding their own business before that..[/QUOTE]
stop. this isn't productive and it's posts like these that turn people like baller and chewing off. i shouldn't even have to say this. this isn't your conversation, with all due respect.
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15009203]What? Palestine obviously started the conflict between the two nations on October 7th, 2023. Israel was just minding their own business before that..[/QUOTE]
have you been tested for lead poisoning? serious question.
[QUOTE=diamenz;15009206]stop. this isn't productive and it's posts like these that turn people like baller and chewing off. i shouldn't even have to say this. this isn't your conversation, with all due respect.[/QUOTE]
muh both sides
[QUOTE=diamenz;15009206]stop. this isn't productive and it's posts like these that turn people like baller and chewing off. i shouldn't even have to say this. this isn't your conversation, with all due respect.[/QUOTE]
Lighten up dude.
I know it’s a serious issue and I agree with you on this. But you’re not changing anyone’s mind. I’ve spoken to baller and chewing quite a bit. It ain’t happening.
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15009209]Lighten up dude.
I know it’s a serious issue and I agree with you on this. But you’re not changing anyone’s mind. I’ve spoken to baller and chewing quite a bit. It ain’t happening.[/QUOTE]
no, i won't.
it's not my intent to change minds, idiot. reread my post. i spent more than a few minutes writing and revising it for a reason. [B]wise up.[/B]
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15009209]Lighten up dude.
I know it’s a serious issue and I agree with you on this. But you’re not changing anyone’s mind. I’ve spoken to baller and chewing quite a bit. It ain’t happening.[/QUOTE]
Eh he's framing it as a both sides thing which isn't really fair. Hamas is horrible and October 7 was an atrocity, yes, but they are not on equal grounds in terms of immorality. There's a big power difference and historical difference.
jesus christ. :rolleyes:
listen, do me a favor.
everybody else sans highwhey just shut the *uck up for now because you're [B]not[/B] helping.
[QUOTE=highwhey;15009207]have you been tested for lead poisoning? serious question.[/QUOTE]
Oh shit they have tests for that? Good lookin’ out :cheers:
[QUOTE=diamenz;15009210]no, i won't.
it's not my intent to change minds, idiot. reread my post. i spent more than a few minutes writing and revising it for a reason. [B]wise up.[/B][/QUOTE]
Getting a hard-headed individual to meet you in the middle is the equivalent of changing their mind.
But sure, out of respect for you I’ll bow out.
3tard is such a disingenuous liar. He's said countless times "I'm not defending Hamas!" yet here he is running cover for them once again.
It's no different from the way he defends democrats. He swears up and down that he hates democrats and that they're so evil, but the moment anyone compares them to republicans he becomes their biggest cheerleader. In other words it's perfectly fine to talk shit about democrats, but don't dare suggest they're as bad as republicans or else 3tard is going to get REALLY upset and he will have to defend their honor.
Now he's defending Hamas's honor.