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[QUOTE=Baller234;15008483]I'm not the one advocating for it.
You tell me what it means. You tell me what your goal is.
I asked you to provide an alternative to the current system and you still haven't.[/QUOTE]
Yes we know you want people to die preventable deaths. I'm like 99.9% sure you're a socioopath.
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[QUOTE=RRR3;15008482]"Immoral" is your billionaire buddies not getting to hoard everything :roll: But the everyday citizen having to pay for wars and genocides is good :hammerhead:
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploitation_of_labour[/url]
^Educate yourself. The wealthy are parasites, you are believing exactly what they want (or are you a member of the elite yourself, would explain a lot). Adam Smith talked about this, and he was no socialist.[/QUOTE]
Okay Einsten.
As of 2024, the total wealth of U.S. billionaires was estimated at $5.5 to $6 trillion.
It is estimated that Universal Healthcare as proposed by Bernie Sanders back in 2020 would cost between $2.5 to $4 trillion. That would mean if we confiscated all the wealth from all the billionaires, we would have enough money to fund this system for about [B]a year and a half[/B].
Is this your brilliant plan?
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The left can't meme. :oldlol:
These might work with your gay buddies not here.
[QUOTE=Baller234;15008487]Okay Einsten.
As of 2024, the total wealth of U.S. billionaires was estimated at $5.5 to $6 trillion.
It is estimated that Universal Healthcare as proposed by Bernie Sanders back in 2020 would cost between $2.5 to $4 trillion. That would mean if we confiscated all the wealth from all the billionaires, we would have enough money to fund this system for about [B]a year and a half[/B].
Is this your brilliant plan?
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How much of our tax dollars go towards paying for genocides and wars like I said? Stop wasting money on that too, and tax the wealthier multimillionaires and it can be taken care of. You act like other countries don't laugh at us for not having public healthcare :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Baller234;15008489]The left can't meme. :oldlol:
These might work with your gay buddies not here.[/QUOTE]
You're devoid of empathy, of course you wouldn't get it. I notice you keep desperately dodging everyday people being taxed for military stuff. Curious!
[QUOTE=RRR3;15008490]How much of our tax dollars go towards paying for genocides and wars like I said? Stop wasting money on that too, and tax the wealthier multimillionaires and it can be taken care of. You act like other countries don't laugh at us for not having public healthcare :oldlol:[/QUOTE]
But wait, just before you said you weren't in favor of taxing anyone but the super rich. If the super rich are paying for our healthcare, where else are we going to get these extra tax dollars from?
How can we cut from other programs if the taxes aren't being collected?
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[QUOTE=Baller234;15008492]But wait, just before you said you weren't in favor of taxing anyone but the super rich. If the super rich are paying for our healthcare, where else are we going to get these extra tax dollars from?
How can we cut from other programs if the taxes aren't being collected?
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"Programs". So you think it's important for us to genocide Palestine and bomb Yemen? Because you are currently paying tax dollars for that :oldlol: Don't hear you whining about that.
Btw Dwyane Wade would absolutely hate you :roll:
[QUOTE=RRR3;15008494]"Programs". So you think it's important for us to genocide Palestine and bomb Yemen? Because you are currently paying tax dollars for that :oldlol: Don't hear you whining about that.[/QUOTE]
Don't try and change the subject.
You said only the super rich should pay taxes. That means you think billionaires should fund healthcare, defense, education, welfare... all of it. But it's already been explained to you that there isn't enough money for that. Not even close.
So if we're not collecting taxes from the average citizen, where is this money coming from?
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I didn't say just billionaires and you know it, should have just said the upper crust of society. Keep stomping your feet, it's hilarious watching you throw a tantrum about the idea of poor people getting taken care of.
It's not changing the subject either, you think taxes are good when they're for stuff YOU want like bombing brown people. It's hypocritical.
[QUOTE=RRR3;15008497]I didn't say just billionaires and you know it, should have just said the upper crust of society. Keep stomping your feet, it's hilarious watching you throw a tantrum about the idea of poor people getting taken care of.
It's not changing the subject either, you think taxes are good when they're for stuff YOU want like bombing brown people. It's hypocritical.[/QUOTE]
You said the "super rich" should pay all of our taxes.
Okay, define super rich. Enlighten us.
How much money is "super rich"? At what income level should you be exempt from paying taxes?
[QUOTE=Baller234;15008498]You said the "super rich" should pay all of our taxes.
Okay, define super rich. Enlighten us.
How much money is "super rich"? At what income level should you be exempt from paying taxes?[/QUOTE]
Idk, I'm not an economist and I'm too lazy to spend a long time researching the answer just to come up with something I am 100% certain you will say is stupid and "immoral" (:oldlol:). Maybe if you were willing to listen to other points of view I'd do the work, but you literally never move an inch. You're expecting me to put in a lot of work to come up with something you will instantly reject because I say it. Like if I come back and say "ok let's tax everyone who makes over 379.5 million" you 100% will have the same enraged response about taxation is theft when it's not used to bomb brown people.
Now answer me about the war stuff. You like paying taxes then.
3tard if you're going to present an alternative solution to the current tax system, don't you think you have an obligation to explain how it works? :oldlol:
[B]3tard:[/B]
"Hey the current tax system is unfair I have a better idea, we tax the super rich at 100% and have them pay for everything..."
[B]Normal Person:[/B]
"Is that feasible? Can you tell me more? At what point is someone considered super rich...?"
[B]3tard:[/B]
"I have no idea, I'm not an economist..."
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[QUOTE=Baller234;15008502]3tard if you're going to present an alternative solution to the current tax system, don't you think you have an obligation to explain how it works? :oldlol:
[B]3tard:[/B]
"Hey the current tax system is unfair I have a better idea, we tax the super rich at 100% and have them pay for everything..."
[B]Normal Person:[/B]
"Is that feasible? Can you tell me more? At what point is someone considered super rich...?"
[B]3tard:[/B]
"I have no idea, I'm not an economist..."
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I don't have an obligation to spend a long time doing economic research just to get an exact answer to someone who is automatically going to reject my answer, no. Also....
[url]https://www.citizen.org/news/fact-check-medicare-for-all-would-save-the-u-s-trillions-public-option-would-leave-millions-uninsured-not-garner-savings/[/url]
Your system is costing us more, aren't you about saving. I'm not saying I agree with Bernie completely btw.