Re: Nick Wright is liar - "90's East weak" but 6 team in 97 East had 54+ win and 2 ha
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15014420]International players are better now. Obviously Americans were the best source of players back in the day...because they were the only ones who played the sport :lol
If Jokic, SGA, Luka, and Giannis didn't exist maybe Ant has two 27ppg titles and is talked about differently.
The earth has a lot of people outside of the US, and they care more about basketball than they did 30-40 years ago. Is what it is and it's not a bad thing.[/QUOTE]
Well, the sport wasn't even invented by an american in the first place. Lol.
Re: Nick Wright is liar - "90's East weak" but 6 team in 97 East had 54+ win and 2 ha
[QUOTE=Nowoco;15014658]I've done this 100 times on here before, I'm not doing it again. Do your own ****ing research.
Plus anyone using the term "weak expansion era" has an agenda and mindset that isn't going to be changed by any link that I could post.[/QUOTE]
You made the claim, chico.... it's up to you to back it up.
Re: Nick Wright is liar - "90's East weak" but 6 team in 97 East had 54+ win and 2 ha
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[SIZE=3][U]APPLES TO APPLES[/U][/SIZE]
[B]Back-to-Back Runs to the WCF at 22-23 Years Old - KJ vs ANT[/B]
[indent][I]Regular Season[/I]
[url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/johnske02.html#1989-1990-sum:advanced]89' and 90' KJ[/url]'.......... 21.5 per... 0.191 ws/48... 4.6 obpm... 0.0 dbpm... 59.1 ts ([url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html]53.7 league avg[/url])
[url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/edwaran01.html#2024-2025-sum:advanced]24' and 25' ANT[/url]........ 19.9 per... 0.135 ws/48... 3.6 obpm... 0.2 dbpm... 58.5 ts ([url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html]57.8 league avg[/url])
[I]Playoffs[/I]
[url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/johnske02.html#1989-1990-sum:advanced_post]89' and 90' KJ[/url]'.......... 21.4 per... 0.169 ws/48... 5.2 obpm... 0.6 dbpm... 58.2 ts ([url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html]54.1 league avg[/url])
[url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/edwaran01.html#2024-2025-sum:advanced_post]24' and 25' ANT[/url]........ 21.3 per... 0.163 ws/48... 4.7 obpm... 1.7 dbpm... 58.1 ts ([url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html]56.6 league avg[/url])[/indent]
[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15014420]
If Jokic, SGA, Luka, and Giannis didn't exist maybe Ant has two 27ppg titles and is talked about differently.
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A league with better Americans like MJ, Magic, Bird, (or Kobe, KD, Duncan and Lebron) is tougher than a league where the best American is worse than KJ (above)..
Since Americans are still the majority of the NBA, and since American basketball has devolved from MJ to less than KJ, we know that today's NBA player is worse on average than previous eras.. Hope this has helped improve your rudimentary understanding of this issue.
Re: Nick Wright is liar - "90's East weak" but 6 team in 97 East had 54+ win and 2 ha
[QUOTE=3ba11;15014685].
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[SIZE=3][U]APPLES TO APPLES[/U][/SIZE]
[B]Back-to-Back Runs to the WCF at 22-23 Years Old - KJ vs ANT[/B]
[indent][I]Regular Season[/I]
[url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/johnske02.html#1989-1990-sum:advanced]89' and 90' KJ[/url]'.......... 21.5 per... 0.191 ws/48... 4.6 obpm... 0.0 dbpm... 59.1 ts ([url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html]53.7 league avg[/url])
[url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/edwaran01.html#2024-2025-sum:advanced]24' and 25' ANT[/url]........ 19.9 per... 0.135 ws/48... 3.6 obpm... 0.2 dbpm... 58.5 ts ([url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html]57.8 league avg[/url])
[I]Playoffs[/I]
[url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/johnske02.html#1989-1990-sum:advanced_post]89' and 90' KJ[/url]'.......... 21.4 per... 0.169 ws/48... 5.2 obpm... 0.6 dbpm... 58.2 ts ([url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html]54.1 league avg[/url])
[url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/edwaran01.html#2024-2025-sum:advanced_post]24' and 25' ANT[/url]........ 21.3 per... 0.163 ws/48... 4.7 obpm... 1.7 dbpm... 58.1 ts ([url=https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html]56.6 league avg[/url])[/indent]
A league with better Americans like MJ, Magic, Bird, (or Kobe, KD, Duncan and Lebron) is tougher than a league where the best American is worse than KJ (above)..
Since Americans are still the majority of the NBA, and since American basketball has devolved from MJ to less than KJ, we know that today's NBA player is worse on average than previous eras.. Hope this has helped improve your rudimentary understanding of this issue.[/QUOTE]
You keep comparing KJ and Ant stats like it means something. It doesn't prove that he's better, it proves the rest of the league was worse... Because we know that he wasn't better.
A worse player can get better stats if his competition isn't as good. Does that not compute with you?
Re: Nick Wright is liar - "90's East weak" but 6 team in 97 East had 54+ win and 2 ha
[QUOTE=AussieSteve;15014888]You keep comparing KJ and Ant stats like it means something. It doesn't prove that he's better, it proves the rest of the league was worse... Because we know that he wasn't better.
A worse player can get better stats if his competition isn't as good. Does that not compute with you?[/QUOTE]
I'm a bit hesitant to use this as an example to what you're trying to point out here. But doesn't that one sound similar to saying that lebron shines best and does great playing on a team full of scrubs?
