What are some unpopular basketball beliefs that you have?

[QUOTE=Soundwave;15019734]Knicks honestly should have won the 94 NBA Finals ... they had the Rockets beat and on the ropes, if John Starks shoots even 30% from the field for game 7, the Knicks win, he somehow managed to have an 11% from the field game, lmao. Can't even make that shit up.

If Jordan didn't retire I think they do win again because that Bulls team honestly probably would've been the most talented Bulls squad in their run overall. BJ Armstrong was still there with Horace Grant but you add Toni Kukoc as well, that's better than the '96 Bulls, Rodman wasn't as good as Grant + Armstrong combined.[/QUOTE]

The Knicks could have absolutely beat Houston, but John Starks had a knack for coming up short in big games.

All of that is beside the point though. If Chicago isnt ousted in 1994, they likely are in 95 versus Houston who had also just acquired Drexler (nevermind the fact Houston and especially Hakeem always matched up well vs Chicago). At some point fatigue and burnout play a factor, and I dont see the Bulls running the tables for 5 straight.

That's one finals 90s fans were definitely robbed of.

[QUOTE=Tavr;15019853]The Knicks could have absolutely beat Houston, but John Starks had a knack for coming up short in big games.

All of that is beside the point though. If Chicago isnt ousted in 1994, they likely are in 95 versus Houston who had also just acquired Drexler (nevermind the fact Houston and especially Hakeem always matched up well vs Chicago). At some point fatigue and burnout play a factor, and I dont see the Bulls running the tables for 5 straight.

That's one finals 90s fans were definitely robbed of.[/QUOTE]

It makes you wonder...if they win 91-94( so 4 straight), then lose to Houston....do they still win 96-98? Like, how much did MJ being away for 94 and most of 95 preserve his legs for that 2nd run? Or maybe they win 96 and 97 but have nothing left for 98. Interesting to see a 'what if' scenario where MJ doesn't retire and what that means for the championship picture from 93-98.

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;15019826]When you say recognize, do you mean voted in as a player or as a contributor?
There are certain player like Wayne Embry voted in not as a player but as a contributor (even though he had a case to make it as a player.)

Should Derek Fisher be recognized over someone like Marques Johnson?[/QUOTE]

Fisher is number 2 all time in playoff wins, Jackson is top ten in assits, Laimbeer has 5 championships, Green has the consecutive start record, Horry has the most titles of any living player, Iggy has a medal, four rings and an MVP. Those men belong in the Hall

[QUOTE=John8204;15019859]Fisher is number 2 all time in playoff wins, Jackson is top ten in assits, Laimbeer has 5 championships, Green has the consecutive start record, Horry has the most titles of any living player, Iggy has a medal, four rings and an MVP. Those men belong in the Hall[/QUOTE]

You didn't answer the question.
Are they going in as a player or as a contributor? There are many ways to be voted in as a Hall of Famer.

And, you're saying AC Green should be in the Hall of Fame over Amare Stoudemire because he played in 1000+ consecutive games?

[QUOTE=John8204;15019859]Fisher is number 2 all time in playoff wins, Jackson is top ten in assits, Laimbeer has 5 championships, Green has the consecutive start record, Horry has the most titles of any living player, Iggy has a medal, four rings and an MVP. Those men belong in the Hall[/QUOTE]
Lambieer and jackson maybe. Thecrest :facepalm

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;15019832]McHale would lead his teams to many 44-win seasons of he didn't have Bird, Parish and Dennis Johnson on his squad.

Switch Kevin McHale with Buck Williams on the Nets in the 80s and those are the wins he getting.[/QUOTE]

Bruh, don't disrespect peak McHale. You know what he scored in the playoffs from 1984-85 to 1987-88?

- 23.2 ppg
- 58.3% FG (120 FG+)
- 80.1% FT & 48.0% FTr
- 58.3% 2PT (118 2PT+)
- 64.0% TS (119 TS+)

A 77-game sample against incredibly tough opposition. The East in the '80s was like the West in the '00s and '10s. And yet, Kevin's scoring and efficiency went UP in the postseason. No defensive scheme or matchup could affect him. In that sense, only 2008-2011 Dirk compares.

[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;15019866]Bruh, don't disrespect peak McHale. You know what he scored in the playoffs from 1984-85 to 1987-88?

- 23.2 ppg
- 58.3% FG (120 FG+)
- 80.1% FT & 48.0% FTr
- 58.3% 2PT (118 2PT+)
- 64.0% TS (119 TS+)

A 77-game sample against incredibly tough opposition. The East in the '80s was like the West in the '00s and '10s. And yet, Kevin's scoring and efficiency went UP in the postseason. No defensive scheme or matchup could affect him. In that sense, only 2008-2011 Dirk compares.[/QUOTE]
It didn't go up against Jeff Ruland tho.

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;15019862]You didn't answer the question.
Are they going in as a player or as a contributor? There are many ways to be voted in as a Hall of Famer.

And, you're saying AC Green should be in the Hall of Fame [B]over Amare Stoudemire[/B] because he played in 1000+ consecutive games?[/QUOTE]

Not "over" Stoudemire but the value the Hall places on media awards and statistics over accomplishments is ridiculous

This season only 11 players managed to play the full season...Green did it for 3 decades

Goal tending should be allowed.

Hockey and soccer are exciting because each goal is epic. Even football.

Basketball will become the most exciting sport in the world when dudes are taking it to 7 foot plus goal tenders every game creating posters.

[QUOTE=L.Kizzle;15019867]It didn't go up against Jeff Ruland tho.[/QUOTE]

I guess he was busy switching on to 1987 Michael Jordan and blocking his mid-range jump shot.

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AC green was just as good if not better than Rodman.

An Iron Man holier than thou player you can count on versus a demon team cancer who needed Goat players and coaches just to get dude to show up????

Easy Ac Green

Coaches are wildly overrated.

[QUOTE=John8204;15019868]Not "over" Stoudemire but the value the Hall places on media awards and statistics over accomplishments is ridiculous

This season only 11 players managed to play the full season...Green did it for 3 decades[/QUOTE]

While very impressive, it was one accomplishment..

Was he ever even an allstar? I don't think you can put someone in the HOF who was a role player his whole career, despite the reliability.

[QUOTE=Im Still Ballin;15019871]I guess he was busy switching on to 1987 Michael Jordan and blocking his mid-range jump shot.

[IMG]https://i.ibb.co/twHdF4Mg/391bfa2a3f714bbd8987aaf03eabb89a.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE]

I used to block people half a foot shorter than me as well.

Phoenix wins the chip in 2011 if they resign Amare.