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[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15025311]Boi you ain't too bright that doesn't have shit to do with the Lebron bs youre trying to shoe horn in there. Mo is only one of the best guards in the east because that was [B][I]his[/I][/B] level in the league as a whole. Klay was all nba for the same reason. You can only play stupid so many times until youre not playing anymore.[/QUOTE]
You tried to shade mo for being one of the best in the east because the east sucked, and your boy bron caught a stray.
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[QUOTE=warriorfan;15025323]You tried to shade mo for being one of the best in the east because the east sucked, and your boy bron caught a stray.[/QUOTE]
Your words not mine. I never said he was only one of the best guards because the east was weak. Again my exact words were that was his level relative to the league, Klays level was clearly higher. I was actually happy when the cavs picked up Mo and my expectations tempered after seeing him throughout the season and what limitations he had. But yeah keep trying to force them square peg in the round hole idiot. Theres a reason most of the forum handle you how they do.
[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15025372]Your words not mine. I never said he was only one of the best guards because the east was weak. Again my exact words were that was his level relative to the league, Klays level was clearly higher. I was actually happy when the cavs picked up Mo and my expectations tempered after seeing him throughout the season and what limitations he had. But yeah keep trying to force them square peg in the round hole idiot. Theres a reason most of the forum handle you how they do.[/QUOTE]
Where is the Klay Thompson defensive data?
:lol
[QUOTE=warriorfan;15025389]Where is the Klay Thompson defensive data?
:lol[/QUOTE]
Where's the Mo Williams after 2010 data?
bron stans - “klay was an elite defender”
sources: trust me bro
[QUOTE=Hey Yo;15025399]Where's the Mo Williams after 2010 data?[/QUOTE]
LeBron made him. 43% 3 point shooter playing with LeBron. 36% career 3 point shooter without LeBron.
LeBron by himself was able to add an extra 2% on Mo's career 3pt%.
The LeBron effect.
[QUOTE=warriorfan;15025389]Where is the Klay Thompson defensive data?
:lol[/QUOTE]
If you're a warriors fan do you really need numbers on a guy thats made all defense and been just outside of making the team several other times? You need data on the guy that routinely had to guard Curry's matchup cause Steph couldn't hold a purse? Do you really need numbers to prove a guy like Klay is better defensively than a guy like Mo who teams targeted similarly to how teams did Steph? Something wrong with you.
[QUOTE=1987_Lakers;15025403]LeBron made him. 43% 3 point shooter playing with LeBron. 36% career 3 point shooter without LeBron.
LeBron by himself was able to add an extra 2% on Mo's career 3pt%.
The LeBron effect.[/QUOTE]
And that's why Bird said he'd never trade for LeBron's teammates during his first stint in Cleveland.
[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15025417]If you're a warriors fan do you really need numbers on a guy thats made all defense and been just outside of making the team several other times? You need data on the guy that routinely had to guard Curry's matchup cause Steph couldn't hold a purse? Do you really need numbers to prove a guy like Klay is better defensively than a guy like Mo who teams targeted similarly to how teams did Steph? Something wrong with you.[/QUOTE]
Lebron stans have already said defensive teams don’t matter during your discredit kobe campaign
Show me the metrics of klay being an elite defender
[QUOTE=warriorfan;15025427]Lebron stans have already said defensive teams don’t matter during your discredit kobe campaign
Show me the metrics of klay being an elite defender[/QUOTE]
Ive never said that. However I agree that Kobe probably got some reputation awards past his actual time of earning them. All the metrics you need as a "warriors fan" is who was klay always guarding? They were literally hiding Steph on defense using Klay.
[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15025437]Ive never said that. However I agree that Kobe probably got some reputation awards past his actual time of earning them. All the metrics you need as a "warriors fan" is who was klay always guarding? They were literally hiding Steph on defense using Klay.[/QUOTE]
Someone rivaling Lebron gets all defensive teams: “actually all defense doesn’t mean anything”
Someone who is a teammate of Lebron’s rival: “hey he made an all defense team….”
:roll:
Still waiting on those metrics
[QUOTE=sdot_thadon;15025437]Ive never said that. However I agree that Kobe probably got some reputation awards past his actual time of earning them. All the metrics you need as a "warriors fan" is who was klay always guarding? They were literally hiding Steph on defense using Klay.[/QUOTE]
MJ and Curry could carry the "star" category of scoring, so they required less stars and allowed GM's to get good defensive help and role players.. Essentially, their ability to carry the scoring load against top teams allows elite roster construction.. Otoh, Lebron's inability to successfully carry the scoring load against top teams requires more star help, thereby preventing elite roster construction, while his skillset of turning teammates into spot-up shooter further hampers roster construction.. Ultimately, his inability to carry the scoring load with sufficient brand of ball caused the massive upset loss to the 09' Magic.. (too ball-dominant at high scoring levels).
The consensus was that the 15' Warriors weren't a good roster, such as +2800 preseason odds and a lower producer than Mo or Hornacek at 2nd option.. So the 67 and 73 wins means that Curry did a goat thing, not Lebron.. Lebron doesn't deserve props for beating a 1-man team with the only "big 3" super-team in the league and the preseason favorite.. Ultimately, Curry has always needed less talent because his skillset produces better chemistry and ball movement
[QUOTE=3ba11;15025441]The consensus was that the 15' Warriors weren't a good roster, such as +2800 preseason odds and a lower producer than Mo or Hornacek at 2nd option.. So the 67 and 73 wins means that Curry did a goat thing, not Lebron.. Lebron doesn't deserve props for beating a 1-man team with the only "big 3" super-team in the league and the preseason favorite.. Ultimately, Curry has always needed less talent because his skillset produces better chemistry and ball movement[/QUOTE]
Curry needed to recruit a top 3 player to his 73 win team to win half his titles, in addition to a comical number of injuries for his first one.
I give him props for winning 67 games in 2015, but those first 3 titles are honestly not impressive, and the KD ones mean nothing. Someone like Mark Price is likely racking up titles on those KD Warrior teams.