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[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15037918]Again not sure what durant at 18 has to do with ace being great :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
You are the one who brought up the KD comparison.
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[QUOTE=tontoz;15037919]You are the one who brought up the KD comparison.
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Bill simmons did. I posted a link. Comparing players doesnt mean he thinks hes as good as durant or will be. Kd is his favorite player so not surprising that he would see similarities in their games. Hes already bigger than kd so he will certainly be a different player
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15037920]Bill simmons did. I posted a link. Comparing players doesnt mean he thinks hes as good as durant or will be. Kd is his favorite player so not surprising that he would see similarities in their games. Hes already bigger than kd so he will certainly be a different player[/QUOTE]
Do you really think Bill Simmons was watching Rutgers games?
Some sources aren't worth posting. There are countless videos about the draft and Ace and nobody was comparing him to KD.
So Simmons is making the comparison based on what, preseason highlights?
:facepalm
[QUOTE=tontoz;15037921]Do you really think Bill Simmons was watching Rutgers games?
Some sources aren't worth posting. There are countless videos about the draft and Ace and nobody was comparing him to KD.
So Simmons is making the comparison based on what, preseason highlights?
:facepalm[/QUOTE]
Why would he base his opinions on what he did a year ago against college kids when he could watch what he is doing against the best players in the world? Jabari parker was probably considered better than ace at duke. Only one person on ish thinks jabari was a great nba player
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15037922]Why would he base his opinions on what he did a year ago against college kids when he could watch what he is doing against the best players in the world? Jabari parker was probably considered better than ace at duke. Only one person on ish thinks jabari was a great nba player[/QUOTE]
so you think you can learn more about a player from 2 preseason games than from an entire college season?
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Jabari is actually a better comp for Ace than Durant.
Playing nba basketball against some of the best players vs playing college ball against guys that mostly will never play in the nba? Yeah i will go for nba pre season anyday. A big reason the age limit is 19 is because they wanted more info on guys than high school. I want more info than big 10 basketball or summer league. Next week i will get even more info. If a team has an nba program like byu it will be more meaningful and why they have one of the top two players in next years draft. Playing zone or against zone with all the other rules and styles of play doesnt always translate. Watching ace in the no touch league shows me a lot more
Already better than jabari. He plays d
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15037924]Playing nba basketball against some of the best players vs playing college ball against guys that mostly will never play in the nba? Yeah i will go for nba pre season anyday. A big reason the age limit is 19 is because they wanted more info on guys than high school. I want more info than big 10 basketball or summer league. Next week i will get even more info. If a team has an nba program like byu it will be more meaningful and why they have one of the top two players in next years draft. Playing zone or against zone with all the other rules and styles of play doesnt always translate. Watching ace in the no touch league shows me a lot more[/QUOTE]
:lol
Teams aren't even trying to win in preseason. They are playing guys who won't even be in the rotation once the season starts.
Ace has similar issues to Jabari. Limited creation off the dribble and a dismal assist to turnover ratio.
You aren't going to learn squat about a player from watching preseason highlights.
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Teams aren't even trying to win in preseason. They are playing guys who won't even be in the rotation once the season starts.
Ace has similar issues to Jabari. Limited creation off the dribble and a dismal assist to turnover ratio.
You aren't going to learn squat about a player from watching preseason highlights.[/QUOTE]
I watched the games not the highlites. Kd looked like kd. Sengun looked like sengun. Wemby looked like wemby. Certainly learn more from that than what he does against nortwesterns 2 3 zone and their future gleaguers. Maybe he will suck once the season starts like jabari. I doubt it. I know talent. He has has IT. I saw it with stockton day 1. Jazz didnt figure it out for a while. Saw it with ace game two in july. Best player in utah since gobert certainly. Could pass dantley on their mt. Rushmore :rockon:
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15037927]I watched the games not the highlites. Kd looked like kd. Sengun looked like sengun. Wemby looked like wemby. Certainly learn more from that than what he does against nortwesterns 2 3 zone and their future gleaguers. Maybe he will suck once the season starts like jabari. I doubt it. I know talent. He has has IT. I saw it with stockton day 1. Jazz didnt figure it out for a while. Saw it with ace game two in july. Best player in utah since gobert certainly. Could pass dantley on their mt. Rushmore :rockon:[/QUOTE]
Jabari's college numbers were virtually identical to Ace, except he was a more efficient scorer.
If you actually watched the games you would know that they didn't face a lot of zone.
I bet you didn't even notice that Ace attempted only 3 foul shots total in preseason.
[QUOTE=tontoz;15037928]Jabari's college numbers were virtually identical to Ace, except he was a more efficient scorer.
If you actually watched the games you would know that they didn't face a lot of zone.
I bet you didn't even notice that Ace attempted only 3 foul shots total in preseason.[/QUOTE]
Not too concerned with that. They have him playing the 2 as well which wont be his position once the tanking crap stops. He loves basketball and puts in the work. Will only get better.
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15037931]Not too concerned with that. They have him playing the 2 as well which wont be his position once the tanking crap stops. He loves basketball and puts in the work. Will only get better.[/QUOTE]
I hope so, because his college TS of 53.6% definitely needs improvement. He will be going up against much better defenders once the real games start.
[QUOTE=tontoz;15037932]I hope so, because his college TS of 53.6% definitely needs improvement. He will be going up against much better defenders once the real games start.[/QUOTE]
And he will have better players around him. Hasnt played with 2 starters kessler or collier. Just a bit with lauri. Stockton supposedly couldnt shoot when he joined the league. Gobert was supposedly just long.. karl malone played for a small college. Talent and work goes a long way
[QUOTE=Xiao Yao You;15037933]And he will have better players around him. Hasnt played with 2 starters kessler or collier. Just a bit with lauri. Stockton supposedly couldnt shoot when he joined the league. Gobert was supposedly just long.. karl malone played for a small college. Talent and work goes a long way[/QUOTE]
Ace played with Harper who routinely drew double teams making things easier for Ace.
[QUOTE=tontoz;15037935]Ace played with Harper who routinely drew double teams making things easier for Ace.[/QUOTE]
Now he will have 4 nba players around him not 1