Can someone provide me an actual example of America putting Israel first?

[QUOTE=jstern;15043582]These people are Americans, they should not be denied aid just because a foreign country is coercing the government. It doesn't work that way.

That's just like the Fema person who tried to prevent aid in areas that she BELIEVED were Trump supporting, back in 2024.

[video=youtube_share;LLubb9b6Vsk]https://youtu.be/LLubb9b6Vsk[/video][/QUOTE]

And the administration reversed course on that. It does seem kind of silly to do that, but I understand what they were trying to do, which is to combat antisemitism.


The animosity towards Israel has nothing to do with the plight of the Palestinian people. I just want to make that clear. Most people protesting Israel have no idea where Palestine even is. They don't care about Palestinians. Most Palestinians hate Americans and want us dead. Most of the animosity towards Israel is based out of pure ignorance, hatred, and antisemitism.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15043585]Wow, nice false equivalency you have there. First of all, Trump did not leave anyone to die or deny relief to any victim.

If you read the article you shared, the proposed condition was tied to "preparedness and mitigation" grants to state and local governments, not to the post-disaster relief programs that help displaced residents.

So yes some state level disaster preparedness funding could have been at risk under the proposed rule if a state refused to certify it wouldn’t boycott Israel, but ordinary citizens affected by a hurricane, wildfire, flood, etc., would still receive FEMA emergency aid because those programs operate under separate mandates and constitutional protections.

Like I said, wake me up when these same states start boycotting Chinese companies.[/QUOTE]

I provided 5 examples, you're focusing on this one.

Of course, they didn't leave anyone to die, they had to reverse it a day later due to the amount of complaints they were getting from Americans. Including MAGA Americans who saw it as Israel first.

And the idea that Jewish people are unsafe and in danger, being harassed because people are protesting the bombing of kids with US tax payer dollars, is pure gaslighting, propaganda BS by the Zionists. Very similar to tactics used by the woke left. Woke tactics. Pretending with crocodile tears that a particular group is a victim. Like black people being in danger due to a fake white supremacists problem.

Didn't Columbia have to pay Jewish employees 21 million dollars because having to walk by the protesting of the bombing of little kids was so traumatizing? Or rather, the US government needs to pretend that it was traumatizing, for the fake narrative, and so to make it more legit, they forced Columbia to have to give them 21 million dollars?

[QUOTE=jstern;15043601]I provided 5 examples, you're focusing on this one.

Of course, they didn't leave anyone to die, they had to reverse it a day later due to the amount of complaints they were getting from Americans. Including MAGA Americans who saw it as Israel first.

[B][SIZE=4]And the idea that Jewish people are unsafe and in danger, being harassed because people are protesting the bombing of kids with US tax payer dollars, is pure gaslighting, propaganda BS by the Zionists.[/SIZE][/B] Very similar to tactics used by the woke left. Woke tactics. Pretending with crocodile tears that a particular group is a victim. Like black people being in danger due to a fake white supremacists problem.

Didn't Columbia have to pay Jewish employees 21 million dollars because having to walk by the protesting of the bombing of little kids was so traumatizing? Or rather, the US government needs to pretend that it was traumatizing, for the fake narrative, and so to make it more legit, they forced Columbia to have to give them 21 million dollars?[/QUOTE]

[url]https://x.com/sfmcguire79/status/1829129748607357152?s=20[/url]

[url]https://x.com/NeriaKraus/status/1782258191973089715?s=20[/url]

[url]https://x.com/StopAntisemites/status/1785282124766929152?s=20[/url]

[url]https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1782197108721742211?s=20[/url]

[url]https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1722450340946055409?s=20[/url]

[url]https://x.com/VividProwess/status/1915185697587183918?s=20[/url]

[url]https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1914935729165160942?s=20[/url]

[url]https://x.com/YoniMichanie/status/1719670811403903008?s=20[/url]

[url]https://x.com/HeidiBachram/status/1762620356894859296?s=20[/url]

[url]https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1858725908682609077?s=20[/url]


I don't know JStern, I'm starting to second guess you.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15043604][URL]https://x.com/sfmcguire79/status/1829129748607357152?s=20[/URL]

[URL]https://x.com/NeriaKraus/status/1782258191973089715?s=20[/URL]

[URL]https://x.com/StopAntisemites/status/1785282124766929152?s=20[/URL]

[URL]https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1782197108721742211?s=20[/URL]

[URL]https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1722450340946055409?s=20[/URL]

[URL]https://x.com/VividProwess/status/1915185697587183918?s=20[/URL]

[URL]https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1914935729165160942?s=20[/URL]

[URL]https://x.com/YoniMichanie/status/1719670811403903008?s=20[/URL]

[URL]https://x.com/HeidiBachram/status/1762620356894859296?s=20[/URL]

[URL]https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1858725908682609077?s=20[/URL]


I don't know JStern, I'm starting to second guess you.[/QUOTE]

It's never going to be clean when you have large protests involving thousands of people. Things are going to happen, and then you can pick and choose videos. They are anti Zionists, which is different from Jewish people. The nuance is.

- A good percentage of the protest are Jewish. Jewish people make up about 3% of the students, but a higher percentage of them were protestors, compared to other group. But with their large presence, it cannot be anti semitic.

- Many of the videos are of Zionists instigating.

- One of the videos shows students going into a house where a vile Israeli politician is going to speak, so protests as well as news cameras there are expected.

- There are many videos of zionists trying to provoke the protestors. Like the girl who was walking through them to pretend that she was poked in the eye.

What I did not see was any Jewish person getting beat up, or some epidemic where Jewish people are getting hurt, killed left and right.

It will likely happen, though, in the future, for no other reason than Israel and their conflating Judaism with Zionism and the way the world is viewing Israel since October. Which is likely something that Israel would want, to claim anti semitism.

This is what's common.

[video=youtube_share;hqGOTXJjCCM]https://youtu.be/hqGOTXJjCCM[/video]

[QUOTE=Baller234;15043576]"Hitler had a point..."

"We never hear Hitler's side of the story..."

"The joos had it coming..."



Now the joos are going to be blamed for capitalism. :oldlol:


You people are really sick in the head.[/QUOTE]

It's more about the suppression of genocides from other people. People like you think that Hitler and Germany was the first country to ever have concentration camps. Facts are not hate crimes, and propaganda isn't just the stuff you disagree with. Also if you want the point about Hitler...he didn't do the death camps. Hitler was incharge of the army Himmler and the SS did the genocide of foreigners that were mostly jews.

[video=youtube;m17oElr86AM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m17oElr86AM[/video]

[QUOTE=Baller234;15043512]Well clearly I have to ask the question, because no one in this thread can answer it.

All I got in response was memes and joo sperging.[/QUOTE]

Okay, so answer me this. Why did Mike Huckabee invite convicted Israeli spy, Jonathan Pollard, who was convicted of selling classified US intel to Mossad, to the US embassy in Jerusalem?

This is a very tiny example, but it will drive home the point as you move on to much bigger examples.

[QUOTE=HoopsNY;15043668]Okay, so answer me this. Why did Mike Huckabee invite convicted Israeli spy, Jonathan Pollard, who was convicted of selling classified US intel to Mossad, to the US embassy in Jerusalem?

This is a very tiny example, but it will drive home the point as you move on to much bigger examples.[/QUOTE]

This story just broke out too.

Lol @ OP still sucking off Israel.

i was doing my best trying to avoid this thread as op and i have already had a lengthy debate over this however everyone else here couldn't help but dig themselves into a hole by providing zero examples relating to the question.

- a quick rewind to my argument that the israel lobby, taking full advantage the strong presence of christian zionism in the bush administration, worked alongside (though separate from) big oil and our weapons industry to exert influence and encourage the bush administration into tossing us into the quagmire that was iraq; the argument of which i provided thorough evidence for yet was dismissed out of hand, can be found below:

[url]www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?522532-quot-i-ve-gotta-be-careful-the-way-i-say-this-quot/page4[/url]

which by the way, op's counterargument in a nutshell was "well michael moore, christian bale and the fake news media never informed me of this theory and jewish wizards would have had to concoct some legendary spell in order to set something like this in motion, yadda yadda...", as i was saying provided [I]zero[/I] counterargument against, refused to look into the theory on his own accord and simply dismissed it because he's either a blatant liar, is incredibly biased or just not as intelligent as i gave him credit for. i'll give him the benefit of the doubt in guessing it's personal bias being a conservative jew; but you need to at least [I]try[/I] setting aside your biases and be objective when entertaining a theory that goes against your narrative.

anyway, i digress. other examples:

- aggressive and often times violent land theft in the west bank, often times enabled by the idf, has escalated in recent years and has gotten countless americans killed before and especially after oct 7th. "investigations" on the part of our government are never pursued or followed up on and israeli perpetrators are never held to account. this is a perfect example of how america casts aside our own interests in favor of a foreign government - our government officials have nothing to say because... they're bought. hope that one isn't a jewish trope.

- false flag operations on the part of israel, in particular the uss liberty incident and lavon affair, have shown strong evidence to have been deliberate actions against the us in order to either secure israeli military interests, increase tensions with israeli antgagonists and bringing the us to their side of the ledger to force our hand into their conflicts. is that a trope?

- israel's heavy-handed approach in response to the oct 7th attacks resulting in an 83% civilian kill rate has led to international condemnation, has ultimately turned israel into a pariah state and has harmed both israeli and us global standing on:

human rights violations
accusations of genocide by scholars and international organizations
strained relations with muslim/arab states
challenges to diplomacy
fueling more extremism and hate towards the us and israel

our unwavering support of israel's controversial actions go against our values as a liberal democracy, increases tensions with other allies in the region and even works against [I]israeli[/I] interests in securing stability accords with the peninsular arabs (saudi, uae, qatar, etc). that one's a trope for sure.

- long-vision pursuit of the greater israel project, endorsed by not only cabinet members such as gvir and smotrich but netanyahu himselfand the lukid party in general. this is a belief stated within the doctrine of the party and is based on ridiculous biblical claims to land and if pursued would not only go against our moral and strategic interests but cost us billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars and military assets that would enable even [I]more[/I] mass murder and ethnic cleansing of palestinians. but who cares - they're sub-human anyway.

- media monopoly and ability to sway public opinion with biased coverage, only giving americans one side of the story. just recently, tech billionaire and self-proclaimed zionist larry ellison along with journalist and zionist barry weiss, acquired cbs/skydance and going forward will only further tilt the scale in favor of biased coverage. netanyahu has also publicly stated that israel will pursue a propaganda campaign, spending billions on tiktok, twitter as well as other social media platforms rewarding influencers that push pro-israel viewpoints.

- they've also bought off the majority of our congress, threatening to end the careers of politicians that don't hop on the pro-israel train, the most recent example of which being thomas massie. thomas massie - the america-first congressman along with mtg & ro khanna, responsible for jump-starting the legislative effort to release the epstein files. so if you as a member of congress challenge the israel lobby, they [I]will[/I] punish you. you [I]will[/I] get pushed out and this is nothing new.

- providing safe haven for jewish american pedophiles. [url]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-hide-from-justice-in-israel/[/url]

there are other examples, but i'll leave those to op to bring to light when he does his intellectually-honest deep dive into the subject.

when your government officials tell you who they are, believe them.

[video=youtube;_KnAJGrEeKw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KnAJGrEeKw[/video]

[video=youtube;cYWynhmxewg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYWynhmxewg[/video]

[video=youtube;RKgc1OAc790]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKgc1OAc790[/video]

[video=youtube;hRI_NfCQdSM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRI_NfCQdSM[/video]

[QUOTE][B]- israel's heavy-handed approach in response to the oct 7th attacks resulting in an 83% civilian kill rate has led to international condemnation, has ultimately turned israel into a pariah state and has harmed both israeli and us global standing on:

human rights violations
accusations of genocide by scholars and international organizations
strained relations with muslim/arab states
challenges to diplomacy
fueling more extremism and hate towards the us and israel

our unwavering support of israel's controversial actions go against our values as a liberal democracy, increases tensions with other allies in the region and even works against israeli interests in securing stability accords with the peninsular arabs (saudi, uae, qatar, etc). that one's a trope for sure.[/B][/QUOTE]

Hit the nail on the head here. This is one is particular is the most frustrating thing that pro-Israel and/or anti-Islam tend to completely ignore. And this started long before the events on October 7th.

A lot of people tend to label Arabs/Islamic folks as purely an enemy lacking humanity. Almost like a Michael Myers, Jason, T-1000 type of thing where they just hate us and that's how they're programmed to be. These are humans, and humans are greatly affected at times by the actions of others (the US and Israel in this case). Nothing will ever be solved if those on this side of the house can't acknowledge their part in creating such instability and with it, disdain for the US and Israeli governments. It's like you're bullying someone mercilessly for years, and when the other kid snaps and hits you back you go "wow, this kid is such an asshole. Fvck him". Look in the mirror folks.

Slightly off-topic rant done.

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory;15043808]Hit the nail on the head here. This is one is particular is the most frustrating thing that pro-Israel and/or anti-Islam tend to completely ignore. And this started long before the events on October 7th.

A lot of people tend to label Arabs/Islamic folks as purely an enemy lacking humanity. Almost like a Michael Myers, Jason, T-1000 type of thing where they just hate us and that's how they're programmed to be. These are humans, and humans are greatly affected at times by the actions of others (the US and Israel in this case). Nothing will ever be solved if those on this side of the house can't acknowledge their part in creating such instability and with it, disdain for the US and Israeli governments. It's like you're bullying someone mercilessly for years, and when the other kid snaps and hits you back you go "wow, this kid is such an asshole. Fvck him". Look in the mirror folks.

Slightly off-topic rant done.[/QUOTE]

All these problems began [I]because[/I] of Israel. I looked a lot into this whole problem. October 7th was a response to 75 years of killing, land theft, stealing, unlawful imprisonment, etc.

Was it justifiable? No. I think it's shitty to take old ladies and some kids amongst your hostages — but Israel does it too and it doesn't seem to bother anyone.

And if we go down that path, then we can begin to discuss the events that unfolded with Nat Turner and the slave rebellion of 1831 when they set it on every white man, woman, and child. Another example was the Powhatan massacre following a series of events in and around Jamestown in 1622. In response to land grabs, kidnappings, and killings, the Indians set it on the settlers.

So what were slaves supposed to do? Sit back and continue to take it? Were Native Americans supposed to do the same? Does the end result absolutely suck? Yea...but I'm wondering why the story is never told from the other side. Sadly, it took this event to wake me up, but it appears a lot of others are as well.

[QUOTE=diamenz;15043804]when your government officials tell you who they are, believe them.

[video=youtube;_KnAJGrEeKw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KnAJGrEeKw[/video]

[video=youtube;cYWynhmxewg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYWynhmxewg[/video][/QUOTE]

Dude these are both extremely basic bitch examples and prove nothing.

You are looking way too much into this. When a politician says they are a defender of Israel, you automatically just assume that they must be licking jooish toes behind closed doors. You never considered the fact that some might view Israel as a project worth investing in and worth keeping around.

As for the Tammy Bruce video you can choose to take away from that what you want. Either it means:

- She is an agent of Israel

- She is being blackmailed by Israel

- She forgot she was a guest in another country when she said that America was the greatest country on Earth, so in the moment she realized it might have been in poor taste and out of courtesy she gave the disclaimer.

Like I said, believe what you want. But it's obvious you already made your decision and nothing can budge you. I also think it's rich you say something like "when people tell you who are they are, believe them..." but you worship Tucker Calrson like he's not also getting money under the table and doesn't serve the interests of other people as well.

[QUOTE=Baller234;15044853]Dude these are both extremely basic bitch examples and prove nothing.

You are looking way too much into this. When a politician says they are a defender of Israel, you automatically just assume that they must be licking jooish toes behind closed doors. You never considered the fact that some might view Israel as a project worth investing in and worth keeping around.

As for the Tammy Bruce video you can choose to take away from that what you want. Either it means:

- She is an agent of Israel

- She is being blackmailed by Israel

- She forgot she was a guest in another country when she said that America was the greatest country on Earth, so in the moment she realized it might have been in poor taste and out of courtesy she gave the disclaimer.

Like I said, believe what you want. But it's obvious you already made your decision and nothing can budge you. I also think it's rich you say something like "when people tell you who are they are, believe them..." but you worship Tucker Calrson like he's not also getting money under the table and doesn't serve the interests of other people as well.[/QUOTE]

forget about the videos. i'm most interesting in hearing a response to the examples i took the time to outline for you as well as the recent news that hoopsny posted.