Can someone please tell me that they understand what I'm saying because this kat obviously isn't getting it?
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Can someone please tell me that they understand what I'm saying because this kat obviously isn't getting it?
[QUOTE=Da KO King]Can someone please tell me that they understand what I'm saying because this kat obviously isn't getting it?[/QUOTE]what are you saying exactly
A fan of Tonie? Go figure..Kid is losing his mind.
GOBB posted a link, stating Kobe Bryant did have an "AGENT" entering the draft. This kid is still trying to cover his ass.. *shaking head*
[QUOTE=gts]what are you saying exactly[/QUOTE]
That's what I am trying to figure out now. First, he said Kobe Bryant only had advisor entering the draft. GOBB posted a link saying, Kobe Bryant had an "AGENT" entering the draft. Now, he's going on a rampage trying to be right..
[QUOTE=Da KO King]Can someone please tell me that they understand what I'm saying because this kat obviously isn't getting it?[/QUOTE]
yeah, i got you. you HEARD something that didn't turn out to be accurate - namely that he wasn't covered by an nba agent during the draft because one of his agencies wasn't repping him in bball negotiations and you weren't aware of the other. i don't know why anyone would want to have a slap fight about it anyway. it doesn't speak to bryant's character in either case except in terms of how much leverage he had, and if gobb's quoted material is right the only difference from your initial post and what actually happened is that he threatened to go to italy rather than duke if someone not named west wound up with him.
i do have another question for everyone though: would it have been possible for the lakers to trade divac (w/ a package of campbell and maybe van excel) for someone or someones who would actually have helped the lakers start winning titles in the 90s? kobe wasn't a great fit at first (rookie who duplicated a lot of eddie jones's skills) and elden was an awful fit, so it's possible that the team could have been significantly better initially if they'd gone another way - though obviously they'd be watching kobe score a zillion points a season right now and probably tearing their hair out hearing about how they gave up the second coming.
You [b]couldn't[/b] go back to college, though. NCAA is an amateur organization, and they took that pretty seriously back in the day. Attending workouts, hiring agents, getting drafted, that was all stuff that could screw with your eligibility. Occasionally, things would happen, such as Bird's case, where he was technically a senior, and therefore automatically eligible for the draft, whether he wanted to be drafted or not, but [b]also[/b] had only used up 3 years of his NCAA eligibility, and hence was able to go back. Basically, you could say that he was drafted through no fault of his own, so he was able to go back.
You couldn't just choose to go back to school. Mostly, it was because back in Bird's day, players did not declare early as much. If you were drafted, it usually meant you've already used up all 4 years, and couldn't go back to school. If you declared early, that would void your NCAA eligibility.
[QUOTE=dejordan]yeah, i got you. you HEARD something that didn't turn out to be accurate.[/QUOTE]
All he needed to do was to admit he was wrong and move on. End of story..But, no....He went on a rampage attacking me, calling names, etcs..
I don't get this board man. Bunch of losers with lots of time on their hands...
[QUOTE=SomeBunghole]You [b]couldn't[/b] go back to college, though. .[/QUOTE]
Exactly, SomeBunghole. SomeBunghole been trying to set Da Kong Hole right too. But the kid is in his own little world..
[QUOTE=dejordan]yeah, i got you. you HEARD something that didn't turn out to be accurate - namely that he wasn't covered by an nba agent during the draft because one of his agencies wasn't repping him in bball negotiations and you weren't aware of the other. i don't know why anyone would want to have a slap fight about it anyway....[/QUOTE]
At least someone gets it.
Hell, I haven't even spoken on Kobe's eligibility since the first page.
[QUOTE=Da KO King]At least someone gets it.
Hell, I haven't even spoken on Kobe's eligibility since the first page.[/QUOTE]
Just admit your wrong. GOBB posted a link stating Kobe Bryant did have an "AGENT". Admit your wrong and move on.
No one was talking about Kobe's eligibility. You were convinced on Kobe Bryant not having an "AGENT". Facts has been shown. Man up now. Now you are spinning the entire story. 5,000 post counts shows, making stupid post after stupid post.. Man up son..!
[QUOTE=NewYorkUSCtrojan]Just admit your wrong. GOBB posted a link stating Kobe Bryant did have an "AGENT". Admit your wrong and move on.
No one was talking about Kobe's eligibility. You were convinced on Kobe Bryant not having an "AGENT". Facts has been shown. Man up now. Now you are spinning the entire story. 5,000 post counts shows, making stupid post after stupid post.. Man up son..![/QUOTE]
now i pretty much never bother to defend anybody on this board (myself included anymore), cause what's the point? sticks and stones and bytes etc, but i will here because this is just unnecessary.
king knows more about the actual game of basketball and how it is coached and played than about 99% of this board (myself included here as well), and has created some of the most intersting threads i've read. you're calling him out about a technicallity that he never claimed to know as a fact but as a rumor. all this other bs has been him trying to explain why he originally believed it to be true that kobe wasn't officially repped by an nba agent not to prove that he was correct or that anybody else was wrong, just that he had a reason for thinking the way he did.
for some reason this offends you and nobody else. imo this messageboard doesn't particularly need people who apparently have good nba knowledge but would rather not talk about ball, but instead act as watchdogs and lawyers cause for them it's all about anonymous justice. for all those interested in policing the correctitude of your fellow users, it's not too late to take "matlock" as your username.
What dejordan said.
Getting back on track, Kobe's threat to play in Italy may not seem like much of a threat nowadays, but back then it was a serious thing. The Clippers took Danny Ferry second back in 1989, and he promptly retaliated by playing in Italy for a year. Before that, in '84, a future All Star center Joe Barry Carrol played in Italy for a year due to a contract dispute with the Warriors. in 1990, Brian Shaw also bolted to Italy in a contract dispute with the Celtics.
Now, this didn't mean their teams got completely shafted, with Ferry's rights being retained indefinitely by the Clippers, and Shaw and Carroll not being able to play in the NBA until the issues were resolved, but it's not a pleasant situation for a team. The Clippers ended up trading Ferry, who turned out to be a ****e player anyway, but the entire situation was in retrospect the start of a very lean decade for the club, where the management made one blunder after another.
Though having the 8th pick in the draft isn't as valuable as having a top-3 pick, the Nets(or any other team) certainly wanted to avoid wasting it on a player who would play in Europe(see Fran Vasquez fiasco).
[QUOTE=dejordan]
for some reason this offends you and nobody else. imo this messageboard doesn't particularly need people who apparently have good nba knowledge but would rather not talk about ball, but instead act as watchdogs and lawyers cause for them it's all about anonymous justice. for all those interested in policing the correctitude of your fellow users, it's not too late to take "matlock" as your username.[/QUOTE]
I do not beleive correctitude is a word and will not rest until you take it back.
[QUOTE=John Starks]I do not beleive correctitude is a word and will not rest until you take it back.[/QUOTE]
and i'm pretty sure "beleive" is not a word. you probably meant belize.
[QUOTE=dejordan]and i'm pretty sure "beleive" is not a word. you probably meant belize.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure that you cannot start a sentance with the word "and", am very sure that you cannot start a sentance with a lower case "a" or "y" and am absolutely positude that you cannot spell "i'm" with a lower case "I".
Now admit that you were wrong or I'll be forcitude to take serious action.