My posts in this thread are sarcasm for those that couldn't tell (although it was pretty obvious).
You're all just jealous that you don't have Dwight on your team.
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My posts in this thread are sarcasm for those that couldn't tell (although it was pretty obvious).
You're all just jealous that you don't have Dwight on your team.
Rose the first quote you put up is nothing but speculation on the part of Kevin Pritchard. It also has nothing to do with the actual point I made earlier about Rudy Fernandez going 24th in 2007. Why you feel it is some fact that proves your point is beyond me.
Also, I'm not seeing the relevance of your second quote. I think it is pretty well known that many foreign players lose out on money during their rookie contract.
[QUOTE=Da KO King]:oldlol: You're either insane or just waking up from a hang over because no place have I bad mouthed the Blazers. Only time I called the Blazers over-rated was when people start touting them as "next" because of a bunch of guys [I](Greg Oden, Rudy Fernandez, and Jerryd Bayless)[/I] who NEVER stepped foot on a NBA court. All I've done in this thread is speak on the brewing love affair with Fernandez.
Seriously, un-bunch you panties and actually read what was typed. No place on here have I been "anti-Blazer".[/QUOTE]
You honestly think that I was talking about just this thread?
:oldlol:
Really?
[QUOTE=Da KO King]Rose the first quote you put up is nothing but speculation on the part of Kevin Pritchard. It also has nothing to do with the actual point I made earlier about Rudy Fernandez going 24th in 2007. Why you feel it is some fact that proves your point is beyond me.
Also, I'm not seeing the relevance of your second quote. I think it is pretty well known that many foreign players lose out on money during their rookie contract.[/QUOTE]
I'm starting to think it's pointless to find any information to prove a point. You call it speculation even though it's coming from a professional scout and talent evaluator (very successful one at that). You made a comment about his draft position being 24 like it wasn't impressive, I was pointing out that the Blazers GM thought of him very highly. So just whatever, Rudy is a bust, we should have just kept Zach Randolph's huge contact and not bought James Jones and the pick for 3 millions.
[quote=JordanL]You honestly think that I was talking about just this thread?
:oldlol:
Really?[/quote]
Just because he doesn't agree with all your wet dreams and aspirations of multiple Portland NBA championships doesn't mean he is a Blazer hater.
[QUOTE=RoseCity07]I'm starting to think it's pointless to find any information to prove a point. You call it speculation even though it's coming from a professional scout and talent evaluator (very successful one at that). You made a comment about his draft position being 24 like it wasn't impressive, I was pointing out that the Blazers GM thought of him very highly. So just whatever, Rudy is a bust, we should have just kept Zach Randolph's huge contact and not bought James Jones and the pick.[/QUOTE]
Speculation and opinions are not facts no matter who/what the source is.
Never said 24th was unimpressive. You either are over sensitive to any that is not a glowing endorsement of the Blazers or you simply aren't reading what is being typed.
[QUOTE=Godfather]Just because he doesn't agree with all your wet dreams and aspirations of multiple Portland NBA championships doesn't mean he is a Blazer hater.[/QUOTE]
You haven't seen me post at all if you think [i]I'm[/i] a homer.
I've just seen several threads where Da KO King just makes completely reactionary statements about the team or the players on it.
Which to an extent I understand. Irrational fans are annoying no matter what team they are with. But that doesn't make it acceptable.
Lakers, for instance, have a LOT of fans that fall into that category, but most of the posters here, no matter how frustrating it gets, still [i]try[/i] to stay intelligent themselves.
Reactionary knee-jerk statements usually sound just as stupid as the statements you're reacting to.
[quote=JordanL]You haven't seen me post at all if you think [I]I'm[/I] a homer.
I've just seen several threads where Da KO King just makes completely reactionary statements about the team or the players on it.
Which to an extent I understand. Irrational fans are annoying no matter what team they are with. But that doesn't make it acceptable.
Lakers, for instance, have a LOT of fans that fall into that category, but most of the posters here, no matter how frustrating it gets, still [I]try[/I] to stay intelligent themselves.
Reactionary knee-jerk statements usually sound just as stupid as the statements you're reacting to.[/quote]
He has made rational points on how international players like Rudy are being overhyped. Instead of making a rational point back you told him to **** off and now you are saying he is making knee jerk reactions. If you can't defend your team just keep your fingers away from the keyboard and simply read.
[QUOTE=Godfather]He has made rational points on how international players like Rudy are being overhyped. Instead of making a rational point back you told him to **** off and now you are saying he is making knee jerk reactions. If you can't defend your team just keep your fingers away from the keyboard and simply read.[/QUOTE]
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People like you fascinate me. You repeat what you believe as if I can't go back and actually see what happened.
[quote]Dude, what the **** is your problem. Even when a thread is not about the Blazers, you continually make it about how overrated you think the Blazers are.[/quote]
His point was that Rudy hasn't earned his praise, people just suck Kevin Pritchards dick and Rudy benefits, which is entirely unfair to Rudy, and completely untrue.
I haven't seen a single Blazer fan (the people who trust Pritchard) change their tune about Fernandez at ALL, meaning that any new praise is due to him genuinely impressing non-Portland fans.
But I didn't want to argue with his point, I wanted to talk about the meta discssion about why he routinely ignores the difference between a Blazer fan and a person talking about the Blazers, and why his irrational behavior therein seems limitted only to Portland.
But of course the meta discussion was completely lost on you, and now I've had to explain not just [i]what[/i] was explained/discussed, but [i]how[/i] and [i]why[/i].
I know as a Laker fan, you probably don't have any love for the Blazers or Blazer fans, but Jesus, at least try and know what the **** you're talking about when you tell someone off.
[QUOTE=Godfather]He has made rational points on how[B] international players like Rudy are being overhyped.[/B] Instead of making a rational point back you told him to **** off and now you are saying he is making knee jerk reactions. If you can't defend your team just keep your fingers away from the keyboard and simply read.[/QUOTE]
That's pure speculation...see how that works.:cheers:
[QUOTE=High Potential]Bynum>>>Howard. First of all, Bynum is a legit 7'1", while Howard is about 6'10" at best. Secondly, Bynum has the GOAT post player as a mentor and has pulled out many varied moves, Kareem has stated he only used about 10% of the moves he knows in game. All Bynum needs to learn is counters and he will be unstoppable on O. Secondly, Bynum destroys undersized guys like Amare and Dwight Howard like it's nobody's business everytime he goes up against them.
Howard still has no semblance of a back to the basket game. His footwork is incredibly poor. He gets by on strength and athleticism alone, and the FIBA game exposed him for what he is.[/QUOTE]
You continually say that Bynum destroys Howard head-to-head, yet the numbers prove otherwise. You're a goober.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeYGsg7Drb0[/url]
i like this view better and the german??? announcers, lmao
[QUOTE=ShamRockStar][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeYGsg7Drb0[/url]
i like this view better and the german??? announcers, lmao[/QUOTE]
Link doesn't work, video got taken down. Try this one.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6xYBA_vLms[/url]
Every time I look at it it's even more impressive. His last dribble was at the 3 point line. He did all the against the best players in the world in just 17 minutes. I mean first he breaks Kobe (one of the best defenders in the world) then he dunks on one of the worlds best shot blockers. Yep he's overrated.
[quote=KenneBell]Why should it hand over his head? He already been dunked on by a couple of his USA teammates. TIm Duncan has the same problem. If you are center not named Shaquille O'Neal, you are probably going to get dunked on more than any other player on the court.[/quote]
Good post, people just don't seem to get this. If you get dunked on a lot it means you are actually trying to contest a shot. Tell is Alonzo Morning a bad defender or soft? He gets dunked on a lot too. I hate when people say your a bad defender or soft because you got dunked on.
Dwight is a great player...just won the gold and all. But you know that got to hurt his pride.
[QUOTE=Rockets(T-mac)]Good post, people just don't seem to get this. If you get dunked on a lot it means you are actually trying to contest a shot. Tell is Alonzo Morning a bad defender or soft? He gets dunked on a lot too. I hate when people say your a bad defender or soft because you got dunked on.[/QUOTE]
Quite true, and also the reason why Curry and Randolph are never seen being dunked on.
Based on the reactions of some people, it seems better for a player's rep to let the opposition make the dunk and not even attempt to block it.
I'm already having dreams of Rudy and Brandon on the floor at the same time in the fourth quarter. Oh my Jesus!
And also, nobody can say Rudy isn't NBA proven anylonger. He just put down a huge game against NBA All-Stars and future HOFers
[QUOTE=BlazersDozen]And also, nobody can say Rudy isn't NBA proven anylonger. He just put down a huge game against NBA All-Stars and future HOFers[/QUOTE]
Don't forget it was against NBA players playing out of their respective systems... heck, they were even playing out of their NBA ruleset. And don't forget the wear and tear a NBA season brings upon a player.
[QUOTE=BlazersDozen]I'm already having dreams of Rudy and Brandon on the floor at the same time in the fourth quarter. Oh my Jesus!
And also, nobody can say Rudy isn't NBA proven anylonger. He just put down a huge game against NBA All-Stars and future HOFers[/QUOTE]
Careful, 2 seasons ago, Vasslis Spanoulis scored 22 points against the same USA team, and have you even heard of him? Although Fernandez seems to be very NBA ready, but he would need the ball in his hands quite often, no?
[QUOTE=Heretik32]Don't forget it was against NBA players playing out of their respective systems... heck, they were even playing out of their NBA ruleset. And don't forget the wear and tear a NBA season brings upon a player.[/QUOTE]
Yap, and Rudy played the exact same system he played with his club. Also, the seasons in Spain, which include the Europe-wide competitions, don't bring any wear and tear upon a player.
[QUOTE=brantonli]Careful, 2 seasons ago, Vasslis Spanoulis scored 22 points against the same USA team, and have you even heard of him? Although Fernandez seems to be very NBA ready, but he would need the ball in his hands quite often, no?[/QUOTE]
Actually I have, didn't he play for Greece? See the difference there is that he was the only actually pretty good scorer for Greece while Spain has a ton of them.
I see people's points though, but you people have to remember that Fernandez is coming off the bench and not starting.
Also, are you saying that these NBA All-Stars are system players? Only time I hear that is when a good role player moves teams and completely sucks. Never heard it for All-Stars.
[QUOTE=Brunch@Five]Also, the seasons in Spain, which include the Europe-wide competitions, don't bring any wear and tear upon a player.[/QUOTE]
You seriously want to compare 34 regular season games with 82 regular season games?
[QUOTE=Heretik32]You seriously want to compare 34 regular season games with 82 regular season games?[/QUOTE]
They were a few more. This season:
ACB: 34 games
King's Cup: 3 games
ULEB Cup: 17 games
Total (without play-off games): 54 games.
The dunk was more around Dwight then actually on him, would have been better if it was in his face. But still a nice dunk to watch.
[QUOTE=crisoner]Dwight is a great player...just won the gold and all. But you know that got to hurt his pride.[/QUOTE]
I think not.. CP3 dunked on d12 and its a better dunk than this. he just tried to help clearly he was once step back than rudy i bet if howard was in a better position this would happen. the play is really good and would really give people info about what rudy fernandez can do.. it might not translate well to the nba we will never know but im pretty sure that blazers will make good use of him. on the other hand just because dwight howard cant do his 20/14 average in the olympics says that he is bad wait for this coming season and see how dwight will dominate again ... :confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=BlazersDozen]I'm already having dreams of Rudy and Brandon on the floor at the same time in the fourth quarter. Oh my Jesus!
And also, nobody can say Rudy isn't NBA proven anylonger. He just put down a huge game against NBA All-Stars and future HOFers[/QUOTE]
Not the same rules, plenty of players do good against USA and struggle in the NBA. You can't say anyone is NBA proven until they play in the NBA, sorry.
What in Rudy's game isn't going to translate into the NBA?
[QUOTE=Paradyne]What in Rudy's game isn't going to translate into the NBA?[/QUOTE]
You can never tell beforehand. It's just that the number of European guards that succeed in the NBA is incredibly small. But I can definitely see Rudy as an energy bench guy in the league.
Of course, given my recent success rate with predicting Scola as a bust and Marc Gasol as a probable bust (which I still stand tall for), it'll probably turn out completely different. Which would be good for Rudy.
[QUOTE=brantonli]Careful, 2 seasons ago, Vasslis Spanoulis scored 22 points against the same USA team, and have you even heard of him? Although Fernandez seems to be very NBA ready, but he would need the ball in his hands quite often, no?[/QUOTE]
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insane!
kobe's dunk on dwight howard was 10x better...it was ON him instead of AROUND him.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/xwikdx/KobeBryant1.jpg[/IMG]
sick dunk. dwight was so wanting to swat that too.
That dunk happened because of Kome's horrific defense. In fact, he played no defense the whole olympics and his offense was horrible too. David Stern's creation gets exposed without the NBA refs...
[QUOTE=Ban the Facts]That dunk happened because of Kome's horrific defense. In fact, he played no defense the whole olympics and his offense was horrible too. David Stern's creation gets exposed without the NBA refs...[/QUOTE]
Exhibit #1: The Sad life of an obsessed troll.
[QUOTE=DTD]Exhibit #1: The Sad life of an obsessed troll.[/QUOTE]
Come on now, you cant take a guy with that kind of name seriously.
[QUOTE=brandonislegend]kobe's dunk on dwight howard was 10x better...it was ON him instead of AROUND him.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/xwikdx/KobeBryant1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
True definition of dunking on someone.
[QUOTE=Kobe24]True definition of dunking on someone.[/QUOTE]
LoL, look at kobe's left hand.
[QUOTE=brandonislegend]kobe's dunk on dwight howard was 10x better...it was ON him instead of AROUND him.
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/xwikdx/KobeBryant1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
not as good as Scottie Pippen dunk on Ewing:bowdown:
[QUOTE=DTD]Exhibit #1: The Sad life of an obsessed troll.[/QUOTE]
:oldlol:
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