Where are the Hornets gonna move to? Seattle or Vegas?

[QUOTE=SourGrapes]i partially agree with showtime, so am i to assume you think i'm an ignorant jack ass?

i don't mean to be malevolent, but i think people could leave if they wanted to, and the hurricane situation isn't going to get any better in the near future.

it doesn't make sense to continuously go back to a place that is so disastrous.[/QUOTE]

2 hurricanes don't make a whole area disastrous. It's been fine for like 100 years. The people that stay have no money. How the hell can they set up in a new city? There is help there for them (in time) in New Orleans, there is no help for them in other cities.

The people we are talking about are not likely to be kids that post on ISH from nice families, they are poor people. It's very hard to get poor people to change.

[QUOTE=JayGuevara]Just outta curiosity, for all of you that are siding with Showtime and disagreeing with these people for not gettin the hell outta Dodge, where do folks reside?[/QUOTE]

I agree with much of what Showtime says, although he still has a few misses. I live near Chicago. Nature does not forcibly displace me from my home every 3rd year. Rather, it just irritates the **** out of us.

[quote=SourGrapes]i partially agree with showtime, so am i to assume you think i'm an ignorant jack ass?

i don't mean to be malevolent, but i think people could leave if they wanted to, and the hurricane situation isn't going to get any better in the near future.

it doesn't make sense to continuously go back to a place that is so disastrous.[/quote]
You miss the point. Katrina doesn't come around often and people can't predict a national disaster. The gulf coast gets it hard because they get flooded but if they don't it's not something that they can't recover from.

New Orleans is not what it was 4 years ago and a big portion of the people didn't come back. The city was still rebuilding and "America" was behind that because as most know this country is known for doing whatever it takes to fight back against the odds and help people get back on their feet.

Some of you haven't seen poverty and probably never had to pay the bills. A big portion of the people that came back did because they're homes were all they had. They don't have any savings and that land is all they have thats worth something. A lot of them have family history there too as easy as it may seem, it's not that easy to move on.

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It's not as easy as buying a plane ticket, and some can't even afford that. Nobody is going to buy that land from them and they can't survive elsewhere because they don't have any saving, especially after katrina.

[img]http://www.allaboutjazz.com/articles/nobb2006_2.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.worldproutassembly.org/new%20orleans%20-%20attack.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Se

[QUOTE=SourGrapes]southern california. and if my house was threatened once every few years with a natural disaster i would do everything i could to leave.[/quote]

So if in 2005 instead of Katrina a major earthquake had hit in LA and now 3 years later another one hit you're saying you would view yourself as not deserving empathy because you should have known better after the first quake?

If you agree with that than yes you're an ignorant jack ass.

[QUOTE=SourGrapes]this is a problem that is part of a bigger cycle when people settle...and as a result the south as a whole takes in more government aid than it produces in gdp.[/QUOTE]

Whats with the regional prejudice? People in the south deserve aid just as much as anyone else. More evidence of you being an ignorant jack ass.

Here's a quote from an article on poverty in new orleans before Katrina.

[URL="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9163091/"]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9163091/[/URL]

[quote]Sixty-seven percent of New Orleans' residents are black. And huge numbers of them are poor. [B]Nearly 30 percent of people in New Orleans live below the poverty line, and only a handful of large American cities have lower household incomes than the Big Easy.[/B]

For young, distressed Katrina victims, it’s even worse: Only Mississippi next door has a higher child poverty rate than Louisiana. [B]According to estimates, half of all children in Louisiana live in poverty.[/B]
[/quote]


And some numbers for you
[URL="http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2006/0306wagneredwards.html"]http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2006/0306wagneredwards.html[/URL]

[quote]
[B]Rank of New Orleans compared to other large cities with population over 100,000:[/B]

Percentage of population that is African-American: [B]5th[/B]
Percentage of population in poverty: [B]8th[/B]

[B]Rank of Louisiana compared to other states:[/B]

Percent of population living in poverty areas: [B]1st[/B]
Percent of population born in state of residence: [B]1st[/B]
Lowest median household income: [B]3rd[/B]
Portion of households headed by single women with children: [B]2nd[/B]
Portion of workforce that is unemployed: [B]3rd[/B]

[/quote]

[QUOTE=Hoggle]I'm not trying to be mean here, but after this hurricane is over there should be no more donations going out for people to rebuild their lives in that city. Yes it is home to a great amount of people, but living under sea level between a huge lake and the Gulf of Mexico with the disastrous weather that is only getting worse each year seems like an uphill battle. How many more billions of dollars are gonna be spent repairing a city in between hurricanes before insurance companies and donation centers pay them to rebuild elsewhere (Surely there is other things we can spend billions of dollars on that are just as worthy). I say ship the NO Hornets to Seattle and give another great city a NBA team again. I hope every gets out of that city with all their cherished possessions, and hopefully this wont happen again. I'm sure we can just move party city to another city. As for football, i don't know how well the Saints would do in SA. Seattle seems to be the best place to relocate the Hornets though, I'm sure they would have no problem selling out most of their games with how well the Hornets are doing and how much Seattle wants a team back.[/QUOTE]

its a good thing you aren't a politician. nor do you realize how bads your life would be without new orleans, its port, and oil production.

I believe somewhere in North Florida? Jacksonville or in South East united states would be best

[QUOTE=JohnRuck]its a good thing you aren't a politician. nor do you realize how bads your life would be without new orleans, its port, and oil production.[/QUOTE]

A city is not a prerequisite of a port or oil production...

[QUOTE=JordanL]I just got off the phone with my sister, who's alright.

She couldn't get out though. You know why? She literally doesn't have enough money to get to the nearest open shelter, which is in San Antonio.

It goes beyond that though. During a hurricane they do something called contraflow on the streets. All the streets, all lanes, head out of state. Every single road leads to the border. And it literally can take about a month before you can get back into the state.

So if you leave, not only do you need the money to get out of the state, which with gas prices is not trivial, but you need the money to survive, without an income, for about a month at least, and then you have to come back and get the things you can salvage before leaving permanently.

When you stay in a shelter it isn't free. You have to pay for meals. She literally doesn't have enough money to pay for her, her husband and her 6 month old kid to eat for a month without any supporting income.

Additionally her husband is a state trooper so he'd have to stay anyway to help evacuate people.

Showtime, it costs money to move. More than it costs to rebuild. It costs [b]thousands[/b] of dollars to move out of state. The only way they can accomplish that is if they use the money the government gives them to replace their lost items, and instead use it to move.

Which if they did they'd literally have a couple of changes of cloths and some blankets. No furniture, no job, nothing.

In 12 hours I'm not gonna be able to contact her anymore. Her house is most likely going to be completely destroyed, and/or looted, and I won't even know if she's okay until next Thursday.

[B]The fact that you crticize the choices these people have to make from so ****ing far away is the most heinous, rediculous thing I've ever heard on this forum. You're a waste of a human being if you honestly think [i]you[/i] have any perspective on the choices those people have to make, and you can ****ing die in a ditch for all I care.[/B]

And FYI, she lives in West Louissianna, near the Texas border.[/QUOTE]


And all throughout the thread I have been saying time and time again that I have been referring to [b]THE PEOPLE WHO, AFTER KATRINA HAD TAKEN OUT THEIR HOMES, HAD THE MEANS AND RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO RELOCATE, AND YET RETURNED.

HOW CAN I MAKE IT ANY MORE CLEAR THAT I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT EVERY PERSON? HOW CAN I SAY IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN WITHOUT YOU NOT UNDERSTANDING?[/b]

I also have NOT been critical, demeaning, or insulting to the victicms of these storms. [b]I'm simply saying that I don't feel sorry for every single person, because there are many of them that COULD have left, had the MEANS and OPPORTUNITY to leave, yet made the CHOICE to stay.[/b] I'm not saying they made a bad choice, I'm just saying I won't be obligated to feel a certain way because of the choice they made. That's all. [B]I wasn't criticizing them[/B], I was saying my empathy has limitations. That's it, end of story.

How the fck can you not understand this? Are you people really that stupid? I haven't said a single negative thing about these people, and yet I'm the one getting insulted by you morons. Die in a ditch? Why don't you take your own advice, because the world would be a better place without people as dumb as you.

[QUOTE=Se

[quote=Showtime]And all throughout the thread I have been saying time and time again that I have been referring to [B]THE PEOPLE WHO, AFTER KATRINA HAD TAKEN OUT THEIR HOMES, HAD THE MEANS AND RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO RELOCATE, AND YET RETURNED.

HOW CAN I MAKE IT ANY MORE CLEAR THAT I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT EVERY PERSON? HOW CAN I SAY IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN WITHOUT YOU NOT UNDERSTANDING?[/B]

I also have NOT been critical, demeaning, or insulting to the victicms of these storms. [B]I'm simply saying that I don't feel sorry for every single person, because there are many of them that COULD have left, had the MEANS and OPPORTUNITY to leave, yet made the CHOICE to stay.[/B] I'm not saying they made a bad choice, I'm just saying I won't be obligated to feel a certain way because of the choice they made. That's all. [B]I wasn't criticizing them[/B], I was saying my empathy has limitations. That's it, end of story.

How the fck can you not understand this? Are you people really that stupid? I haven't said a single negative thing about these people, and yet I'm the one getting insulted by you morons. Die in a ditch? Why don't you take your own advice, because the world would be a better place without people as dumb as you.


Cool, because I would really rather not have to deal with a person who is stupid enough to think I have been "poking fun" at flood victims.[/quote]

You are referring to a very small portion of the population (the rich) then...

[QUOTE=Godfather]You are referring to a very small portion of the population (the rich) then...[/QUOTE]So now you have to be a millionaire to not go back? Wow...

I will disagree with you here. Many people stayed with family and friends, and ended up not going back. I met people from Houston who moved after the flooding a few years ago. I met other people who moved from Katrina, and as far as I know they weren't well off. I'm not saying everybody can do it, but I'm saying you don't have to be rich to do it.

Oh, and anybody better not say jack about my situation, because I'm on the poverty line. I'm not dirt poor, but I make due and if you think I feel this way because I'm some spoiled rich kid, then you can go to hell because you criticize me for not understanding another situation, then right after insult me without knowing sh!t about me.

[quote=Showtime]So now you have to be a millionaire to not go back? Wow...

I will disagree with you here. Many people stayed with family and friends, and ended up not going back. I met people from Houston who moved after the flooding a few years ago. I met other people who moved from Katrina, and [B]as far as I know they weren't well off[/B]. I'm not saying everybody can do it, but I'm saying you don't have to be rich to do it.[/quote]
You don't have to be a millionaire to be rich :banghead:. Many of these people are poverty stricken or from the lower middle class. They could not afford to abandon their residence in New Orleans and live somewhere else. Only a small percentage of the people (less than 20%) reallocated to a different area. Don't act as if just because your semi rich friends did the entire population of New Orleans has the means to reallocate.

[QUOTE=Godfather]You don't have to be a millionaire to be rich :banghead:. Many of these people are poverty stricken or from the lower middle class. They could not afford to abandon their residence in New Orleans and live somewhere else. Only a small percentage of the people (less than 20%) reallocated to a different area. Don't act as if just because your semi rich friends did the entire population of New Orleans has the means to reallocate.[/QUOTE]
Semi rich? Ok smartass, what is your definition of "rich"? What is the government's? Please enlighten me.

Once again: you don't have to be rich to have a chance at relocating. And I'm only talking about those people who have that chance.

I'm tired of these New Orleans apologists come up with any tiny reason not to move. It's not like people need to relocate to another state. Just go a bit north in Louisiana and start there. However poor you may be, relocating is a small cost compared to having all of your possessions ruined every few years, and being out of work for weeks or months because of it. Move to Baton Rouge for crying out loud.

[QUOTE=2LeTTeRS]So if in 2005 instead of Katrina a major earthquake had hit in LA and now 3 years later another one hit you're saying you would view yourself as not deserving empathy because you should have known better after the first quake?

If you agree with that than yes you're an ignorant jack ass.



Whats with the regional prejudice? People in the south deserve aid just as much as anyone else. More evidence of you being an ignorant jack ass.[/QUOTE]

your logic is flawed in both cases.

if there was reason to believe that an earthquake was likely to hit southern california very often relative to my convenience then yes, i would leave. with global warming, ocean water temperatures rise, and hurricanes are both more frequent and more powerful. the earthquake analogy doesn't work...but to answer your question, yes i would move if it got that bad.

and it isn't regional prejudice. they receive more aid than they produce gdp, and there is no other place in the nation like that. it isn't prejudice, it is common sense.

so i guess i'm not a jackass, just logical. and i'm not the one resorting to name calling...

[QUOTE=WhySoInsecure?]You miss the point. Katrina doesn't come around often and people can't predict a national disaster. The gulf coast gets it hard because they get flooded but if they don't it's not something that they can't recover from.

New Orleans is not what it was 4 years ago and a big portion of the people didn't come back. The city was still rebuilding and "America" was behind that because as most know this country is known for doing whatever it takes to fight back against the odds and help people get back on their feet.

Some of you haven't seen poverty and probably never had to pay the bills. A big portion of the people that came back did because they're homes were all they had. They don't have any savings and that land is all they have thats worth something. A lot of them have family history there too as easy as it may seem, it's not that easy to move on.

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[IMG]http://thesituationist.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/katrina_survivors2.jpg[/IMG]

It's not as easy as buying a plane ticket, and some can't even afford that. Nobody is going to buy that land from them and they can't survive elsewhere because they don't have any saving, especially after katrina.

[img]http://www.allaboutjazz.com/articles/nobb2006_2.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.worldproutassembly.org/new%20orleans%20-%20attack.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

my point is it looks like you can predict a hurricane, and it looks as though, with the changing climate, the gulf coast isn't going to see any kind of let up in hurricane frequency or strength. you missed the point.

I think I lost a couple of brain cells after reading Showtime's posts...

Seriously, those posts may have been the most arrogant posts I've ever seen on Insidehoops. Unbelievable.

you can call me unsympathetic and that's your thing...

but i see the problems with hurricanes and the gulf coast as a symptom of poverty, and i look at poverty and it's possible solutions in two ways simultaneously.

one, people in populations need social programs to in a macro sense help society

two, there needs to be a sense of personal responsibility that i don't see when people are so often being evacuated and then moving back. if something were threatening me, i would do something about it to the best of my ability.

maybe i'm judging the residents unfairly, but to remain in poverty i think requires some amount of settling in a lot of the cases.

[QUOTE=Jimmy2k8]I think I lost a couple of brain cells after reading Showtime's posts...

Seriously, those posts may have been the most arrogant posts I've ever seen on Insidehoops. Unbelievable.[/QUOTE]
Please explain how I have been arrogant. I would really like to know, honestly, so I can see the thought process of how one comes to that conclusion.

Don't mess with nature, or it'll mess with you. The citizens who refused to learn from Katrina will soon see this simple fact. They'll just keep fixing up the city. It's like rebuilding a sandcastle over and over again hoping the tide won't come in.

i am a new orleanian, i have not been in new orleans since 05. after being hurt in iraq i had to undergo treatment and numerous surgeries at johns hopkins and walter reed amc. i was on my feet in 06 and chose to move my family to jacksonville fl. which is a beautiful city. now heres the catch, i did'nt leave due to continuing threats of hurricanes, but the continuing decline in the new orleans school system. i have 3 young kids and i refuse to let them be subjected to a below average education. the city of new orleans is so full of culture and tradition. it is almost idiotic to think that people can just leave thier history and stay gone. people do know the possible risk of rebuilding in an area that has a chance to be continuously devistated. but why do they, why do people take those chances, like those who rebuild in tornado prone, or earthquke areas. it becomes an issue of a love for home. why do the majority of nba players stay in the usa instead of playing in places where the people treat them like gods, pay them more and untaxed money, and in some cases, provide home and car. because they love the since of home, people need the since of home in new orleans. when i was in dc, even now in florida, its been hard to adjust. the food is different, the music is different, the people are different. everyone has different opinions, im just speaking for the people who choose not to leave. everyday i wish i was in new orleans and if not for the poor education system, no natural disaster could keep me from coming back, over and over again. this is'nt a crap city in the middle of nowhere, its a city worth coming back to. i told my wife that once the kids are in college im going back to retire. im not going to bash the opinion of showtime or no other person because thats all it is to me, an opinion.



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The thing is, there's nothing brave about standing up to nature. Being defiant against hurricanes is not like being defiant against terrorists. It's just stupid. Realize that some places just aren't safe to live in and [I]move on[/I]. "Culture" is meaningless if you're not alive to experience it. You can build a home somewhere besides a swamp.

[QUOTE=AMERVET]i am a new orleanian, i have not been in new orleans since 05. after being hurt in iraq i had to undergo treatment and numerous surgeries at johns hopkins and walter reed amc. i was on my feet in 06 and chose to move my family to jacksonville fl. which is a beautiful city. now heres the catch, i did'nt leave due to continuing threats of hurricanes, but the continuing decline in the new orleans school system. i have 3 young kids and i refuse to let them be subjected to a below average education. the city of new orleans is so full of culture and tradition. it is almost idiotic to think that people can just leave thier history and stay gone. people do know the possible risk of rebuilding in an area that has a chance to be continuously devistated. but why do they, why do people take those chances, like those who rebuild in tornado prone, or earthquke areas. it becomes an issue of a love for home. why do the majority of nba players stay in the usa instead of playing in places where the people treat them like gods, pay them more and untaxed money, and in some cases, provide home and car. because they love the since of home, people need the since of home in new orleans. when i was in dc, even now in florida, its been hard to adjust. the food is different, the music is different, the people are different. everyone has different opinions, im just speaking for the people who choose not to leave. everyday i wish i was in new orleans and if not for the poor education system, no natural disaster could keep me from coming back, over and over again. this is'nt a crap city in the middle of nowhere, its a city worth coming back to. i told my wife that once the kids are in college im going back to retire. im not going to bash the opinion of showtime or no other person because thats all it is to me, an opinion.



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I appreciate you approaching this from this perspective, and willing to discuss the situation without attacking others. I respect your opinion, and certainly can relate to the feeling of being close to home. I haven't had a strong tie to the culture, but my experience has been more related to family connections and history in my area. Personally, I couldn't choose to stay in a situation where every year, there was a chance my home, or the homes of people I care about could be in jeopardy. I just wouldn't want to subject myself or my family to that. With that being said, I certainly feel for those that had no choice in the matter, and face a difficult time ahead.

[quote=Showtime]I appreciate you approaching this from this perspective, and willing to discuss the situation without attacking others. I respect your opinion, and certainly can relate to the feeling of being close to home. I haven't had a strong tie to the culture, but my experience has been more related to family connections and history in my area. Personally, I couldn't choose to stay in a situation where every year, there was a chance my home, or the homes of people I care about could be in jeopardy. I just wouldn't want to subject myself or my family to that. With that being said, [B]I certainly feel for those that had no choice in the matter[/B], and face a difficult time ahead.[/quote]

Lol...No you do not...Every single one of your posts have been negative on this topic leading up. However it is good to see finally a first hand account of the situation set you straight. From now on think twice before posting on the mishaps of others...

[QUOTE=Godfather]Lol...No you do not...Every single one of your posts have been negative on this topic leading up. However it is good to see finally a first hand account of the situation set you straight. From now on think twice before posting on the mishaps of others...[/QUOTE]
OMFG do you ever get a clue? I guess not. I guess spelling it out as clear as day will never get your brain to wrap around the idea that I haven't been discussing every person in general terms.
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What the f-ck is the matter with you, Showtime? You know you're way off base here, just give up, you pompous prick.

[QUOTE=catzhernandez]What the f-ck is the matter with you, Showtime? You know you're way off base here, just give up, you pompous prick.[/QUOTE]
Arrogant: Having or displaying a sense of overbearing self-worth or self-importance.

How have I been overbearing with self worth, when all I've been doing is trying to clarify my initial post in order for the misunderstandings to end? I've laid it all out there for people to understand what I was saying. I am done trying to get people to realize [B]I'm not attacking the poor, not criticizing the victims, or belittling their lives.[/B] But what the hell does that matter, when some idiot can make up his mind and then flame?

I challenge someone to find a post where I put down the flood victims. Find it. Any explanations have been just that: reasons to show why I feel the way I feel, and NOT a judgment against people.

Do we have mods? THis is a TERRIBLE thread whose whole purpose was someone getting to say NO IS GOING TO GET SMASHED and be a dick in a way that allowed the thread to keep going. At the time NO is in the path of something bad, we shouldn;t have a "where are their treams moving to after the city gets smashed" thread. thats insane.

[QUOTE=niko]Do we have mods? THis is a TERRIBLE thread whose whole purpose was someone getting to say NO IS GOING TO GET SMASHED and be a dick in a way that allowed the thread to keep going. At the time NO is in the path of something bad, we shouldn;t have a "where are their treams moving to after the city gets smashed" thread. thats insane.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, there already is a topic on the hurricane situation in the OTC, and this is the NBA section, so I don't see anything wrong with discussing where the Hornets would play next season. However, I agree with you that his approach is blunt, and the topic probably should be discussed later on after we see how the area is effected.

[QUOTE=NOHCP3]Thread should be closed. Horrible timing. People are fleeing for their lives(including me) and the first thing you can think of is where are our pro teams gonna go AFTER this storm wipes us off the face of the map? Get a life dude. How bout you pray for New Orleans before you plot its downfall[/QUOTE]

Praying to an invisible man Vs being realistic.

I think he should stick with being realistic.

Vancouver Hornets- Canada's 2nd team in the NBA. :rockon:

+ why are people talking like the hornets are going to up and leave and stay gone. lets be real, Seatle wasnt showing up to see their own team, shin will not move anywhere he may lose money. if my team had to temporarily relocate shin is looking for a city where his team is the only priority like okc, but thats the last resort. they will play the whole season in n.o like scheduled

[quote=Showtime]Arrogant: Having or displaying a sense of overbearing self-worth or self-importance.

How have I been overbearing with self worth, when all I've been doing is trying to clarify my initial post in order for the misunderstandings to end? I've laid it all out there for people to understand what I was saying. I am done trying to get people to realize [B]I'm not attacking the poor, not criticizing the victims, or belittling their lives.[/B] But what the hell does that matter, when some idiot can make up his mind and then flame?

I challenge someone to find a post where I put down the flood victims. Find it. Any explanations have been just that: reasons to show why I feel the way I feel, and NOT a judgment against people.[/quote]

There are alot of idiots who made up their mind to flame you...Just deal with it you aren't an empathic human being and should not be posting on topics due to your pure insensitivity,

[QUOTE=TakitoEspanoza]Im athiest :hammerhead: so who do you suggest I pray to? The Hurricane god?

This is purely an NBA topic on where the Hornets will move too.[/QUOTE]

Fixed.

Forecasts say no move.:cheers: The end of the world will have to wait
another year. :wtf: :lol Now all of you doomsday fools, sell everything you
have at 90% off and we will give all of the water, canned foods, and dried
foods you can carry. :violin:

[QUOTE=Mateo]It's not 100 years ago!! This is the entire point! New Orleans was a great city at one point, now it's a storm magnet dump. Move. Now. Before you die.[/QUOTE]


new orleans IS a great city, and if you knew anything about aything, you would know that at least 40% of the UNITED states coast is just as vulnerable to hurricanes as louisiana. IDIOT.

your ideas are both childish and idiotic, which makes me come to the conclusion that you could not be any older than 14 years old, god forbid you are, because if so, you really are the definition of a senseless and stupid human being.

have a nice day.

[QUOTE=Se

LMAO @ this being an 11 page thread and LMAO at people trying their hardest to move the Hornets. The Hornets are doing well. They just sold 10,000 full season tickets (even before the partial plans were available) something done for the first time since moving to New Orleans. The sports teams provides jobs for people and outlets for people looking for entertainment. Every year Florida gets hit by hurricanes but I don't see anyone talking about getting rid of a city or moving their sports teams. No, they haven't been hit as hard as a catastrophic Katrina but every year they get hit, they clean up, rebuild and next year repeat the process. New Orleans is one of America's oldest cities and has a lot of culture behind it. Most here have never even been to New Orleans. All they know is what the media chooses to show on tv or what they hear other people say. What happens if there is a levee breach in Sacramento? Are people going to try to move the Kings? Some of you probably didn't even know Sacramento had levees right? What happens if a tornado goes roaring through OKC and whips the Ford Center right out of the ground? I don't even read through threads like this because I know there are tons of ignorant things being said. It must be nice to just sit behind a keyboard and talk about something that you really don't know much about.

Senor Cedric and John Ruck I haven't read the thread but from your recent posts above, let me say thanks for being the voice of reason.

I know I'm late but after the posts I put in this thead I had to bump this thread. **** eveybody who wished bad on the city of New Orleans just so the Hornets would leave, or who had the nerve to say the people deserve no empathy/aid because they should have known better because their was another natural disaster there a few years back.