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[QUOTE=Boss_Baller_34]I have to disagree with you. I still believe that the Pacers are the number one team. JO played a lot of Center for the Pacers last year. The way that they played him at the Center position was not the traditional way that you play the Center position. He didn't have to do as much grinding, and it was a little more free flowing. It's going to be even more that way with this new uptempo game that the Pacers will be playing. Al is not a first team all NBA defender, but at the same time he's not horrible either. He really is a decent defender that can hold his own. His size and strength, and relative quickness for his size is what makes him a good defender. Not to mention his offensive skills. He scored 31 points on Ron Artest which was the most any player scored on him last year. I agree that SJAX and Tinsley aren't a top 10 Back Court, but they don't have to be with our team. We have enough talent, that all they need are modest numbers. Marquis Daniels will definitely blend in well with us. The only reason why he didn't have much success last year was because of Avery Johnson. Avery Johnson had a different offensive scheme than that of Don Nelson. The Pacers will be playing "NellieBall" this year, and it will fit Marquis Daniels pefectly. Not to mention he still is a pretty good defender. With the Pacers size and athleticism, I think that they have put together the best team. I think that the locker room atmosphere will be much better as well. The Pacers will win the championship![/QUOTE]
HAHA!!:stupid:
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Pacers as anumber one team!!! R u out of your mind? No one's scared of them anymore. R you following the same League as all of us here? hahaha:hammerhead:
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1. Dallas- Dirks on his prime and young players like Devin Harris and Josh Howard will improve from the previous playoff experience.
2. San Antonio- Tim will bounce back from after having some statistical career lows, Manu and Parker will be consistent. But NOT making it to the Finals last season will be the reason why it will benefit them and motivate the team tremendously.
3. Cleveland- LBJ will have an MVP season. Z and the Brazilian enforcer will be rock solid throughout the whole year, Wesley and Damon Jones will keep the defense honest. If this roster doesn't work, a coaching change might happen!
4. Miami- Flash put the whole franchise on his shoulder during the Finals. they struggled during the season and getting lucky with the Nets( Cliff Robinson getting suspended). Shaq's still great but to win the title back to back, Wade has to be more than amazing again.
5. Houston- the addition off Shane Battier and Casey Jacobson will give the roster toughness on defense and outside shooting. An injury free season from Yao and T-Mac will determine the teams fate.
6. Phoenix- Amare is a question mark. few players have regained their usual form after having his kind of surgery. Nash has to be great for the Suns to be considered as contenders.
7. L.A. Lakers- A bittertaste of the previous playoffs will inspire this team throughout the year. Kobe will have a fresh start sporting his new no.24, and everyone should be very familiar with the triangle this time around!
8. Chicago- A very good mix of Good young players and fiery Veterans makes the roster very appealing. With Nocioni and Big Ben. it gives the team a lot of toughness in the frontcourt. while the backcourt was never a problem with Gordon and Kirk leading the way.
9. Detroit- It hurts me to put the Pistons at number nine. I dont understand why the offense wasn't going through Rasheed, and Why Rip chooses to dribble and penetrate to the Hoop more instead of doing what he does best of moving through screens,doing catch and shoot around the perimeter during the playoffs. unless they go back to what they usually do, it's only a matter of time before Joe D. really starts making changes.
10. Charlotte Bobcats- Laugh all you want guys. But im betting for this team to make alot of noise this upcoming season. Adam Morrison i think is something. A lot of positives are happening within the Franchise and with MJ around, things should get alot better!!!
( o.k., Maybe im taking it too far by putting the bobcats at number 10, but im hoping they do make some noise this year. Maybe the Nets, Clippers or Memphis at number 10 will make more sense)
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Seriously
Alright everybody instead of messing around anymore ill be serious. Everyone knows all the top teams like the Heat, Spurs, Mavs, Suns.. But lets be serious no one is looking at the Hornets. They have a pretty good backcourt with Chris paul, Bobby jackson, Rasual Butler, Janerro Pargo, and Desmond mason. They also have a very deep frontcourt with Tyson chandler, Peja, Hilton armstrong, David west, Cedric Simmons, and Marc jackson. So instead of giving all the praise to these teams everyone knows about look at the not so popular teams like the New Orleans Hornets.
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1. Heat
2. Mavericks
3. Nets
4. Suns
5. Pacers
6. Cavs
7. Bulls
8. Spurs
9. Kings
10. Clippers
Time for the downfall of the pistons. They will miss Ben more than they thought, its up to Prince now.
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[QUOTE=Pharmacists84]Alright everybody instead of messing around anymore ill be serious. Everyone knows all the top teams like the Heat, Spurs, Mavs, Suns.. But lets be serious no one is looking at the Hornets. They have a pretty good backcourt with Chris paul, Bobby jackson, Rasual Butler, Janerro Pargo, and Desmond mason. They also have a very deep frontcourt with Tyson chandler, Peja, Hilton armstrong, David west, Cedric Simmons, and Marc jackson. So instead of giving all the praise to these teams everyone knows about look at the not so popular teams like the New Orleans Hornets.[/QUOTE]
no.
The Hornets still dont have a bench. Jackson and Peja will miss at least 20 games each, and Chandler can't score. Chris Paul is my favorite player in the NBA, but I feel for him with some bad signing this offseason. David West can grow, and hopefully Armstong becomes a good player in a couple years. Since so many teams got better this season, they will have another struggle at the 8th seed.
Teams that look like are getting better though, are Charlotte and Orlando.
If gerald wallace can play SG, then the starting linup of Felton, Wallace, Morrison, Okafor, and Brezec looks real good. Plus, they have Brevin kight and loads of cap space.
Orlando has Howard, Millicic, Nelson, Redick, and Arroyo. Add in Vince Carter, and you have a contender.
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[QUOTE=riggz_01]10. Charlotte Bobcats- Laugh all you want guys. But im betting for this team to make alot of noise this upcoming season. Adam Morrison i think is something. A lot of positives are happening within the Franchise and with MJ around, things should get alot better!!!
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I agree with what you say about the bobcats, but not becasue of MJ.
He took Kwame Brown 1st overall.
Actually, it didnt end up too bad becasue they traded him for Caron Butler.
Shaq for Lamar Odom and Kwame? :hammerhead:
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I predict that there will be about 4 surprise teams in the playoffs this year.
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1. miami champs
2. dallas dirk and new guys brought in
3. cleveland lebron and hughes will get dem far
4. phoenix amare's back and nash and marion
5. chicago big ben wallace and gordon wit hinrich
6. detroit billups prince hamilton wallace mohammed murray mcdyess hunter
7. la clippers brand cassell thomas etc
8. new orleans paul and stojakovic
9. houston healthy tmac and healthy yao wit battier
10. spurs duncan parker ginobili self explanatory
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:banghead: Its CRAZY how people are underestimating the Rockets one bad season of injuries and thier forgotten!!! In 04 - 05 they won about 52 games and they went seven games with the Mavs and that was when Yoa was still learnig the game and TMac got traded and was still getting use to the team and the style of play not to mention he was also hurting.
If TMac plays At least 70 games they are a top 5 team Yao is not injury prone i dont understand why everyone thinks that. If TMac is telling the truth about bieng healthy he can carry the team himself to playoffs including Yao and Battier they are a Top 5 Team!!!!!!!!!
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miami, dallas, spurs, suns, cavs, detroit, chicago, clippers.
no, they arent.
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[QUOTE=Ellimist]Chris Paul is my favorite player in the NBA, but I feel for him with some bad signing this offseason.[/QUOTE]
:wtf:
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[QUOTE=NugzFan]miami, dallas, spurs, suns, cavs, detroit, chicago, clippers.
no, they arent.[/QUOTE]
yes they are
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[QUOTE=nickles55]1. miami champs
2. dallas dirk and new guys brought in
3. cleveland lebron and hughes will get dem far
4. phoenix amare's back and nash and marion
5. chicago big ben wallace and gordon wit hinrich
6. detroit billups prince hamilton wallace mohammed murray mcdyess hunter
7. la clippers brand cassell thomas etc
8. new orleans paul and stojakovic
9. houston healthy tmac and healthy yao wit battier
10. spurs duncan parker ginobili self explanatory[/QUOTE]
Can you enlighten us as to how New Orleans is better than the Spurs? :wtf:
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top 10
1 Miami
2 Dallas
3 Phoenix
4 San Antonio
5 Detroit
6 Cleveland
7 Chicago
8 Nets
9 Clippers
10a Houston- it depends of T Mac
10b Denver- If Carmelo gets better
10c Hornets- their raising up, it woudnt be a surprise seeing them in the playoff again (Chris Paul, Peja, Bobby Jackson)
For those who are saying that the Lakers will be in the 5 spot:wtf: in your dreams!!!!!!!!!!
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Some Funny **** from the Laker Forum
[QUOTE][QUOTE=mariodeathgrip]1. Dallas- They were screwed by the refs in Game 5, Wade is not MJ. So why give him all those free throws, and that photom foul at the end. I still waiting for game 7. Mavs should come out with a mission!
2. San Atonio- Still has a great team, Duncan will have less min, Prep for the play-off, the west got better
3. Lakers- Kobe played last year with a bad knee, not this year! Brown found his purpose. Bynum will get playing time. Odom will play some point. This is the last year of Grants 15 mil contract. More money to throw around next year, so players will be stepping up. Show me da money!! And they added Vrad a younger Peja type player and farmer who was born to play da triangle.
And some rope playing defenders.
4. Chicago- This team has upgraded big. I see this team playing great D' they might be the best team in the East.:banghead:
5. Miami- Shaq has very little left, and now Wades has a ego,the NBA refs spoiled him, and now Watching wade on the USA team, complaining after every miss not getting back on D'. And hearing the other teams trash talk to him saying your not Jordon, and then Schooling him. Wade will now get the same treatment this year in the NBA.:cry:
6. Cleveland-The team will do everything they can to make him better, until James starts playing as a team and of course D' No rings for the so called King or should I say Queen.:rollingeyes:
7. Phoenix- This team has to many good players, but even with Amare's return Well if he does return considering he was not well enough for Team USA. Nash is almost done too much caring the team last year, has put too much weight on his back he might be done after this year.
8. Clippers- This team had talent every year but always failed, but last year they were pretty good. But Sam want out, wants to play for the Lakers. Unless they pick up Baby Shaq or maybe Sprewell he is gone after this year and so are there play-off chances.
9. Detroit- Losing Ben was a big lose more than they want admit, this team will fall apart. Ya they still got a great team. But the only reason they got a ring is that Stern wanted show the NBA fans that anyone can win a championship with out star player. So the refs let them get away with hard fouls. Timidating the other team. But with no Ben a big part of their D' is gone so this year more team will be attacking the inside.
10.New York- Looking to much like team USA, will makes some big moves during the season. If not I would pick Houston for the 10th spot, with the combo of T-mac and Ming and a good supportings staff. But T-Mac may never be what he once was. At least not for a whole year. With that in mind if both team don't step up the 10th spot will go the team with the worst owners. The Kings, Ron Artest is a great player, but he also does not want to be there. He should had been a Laker but the Kings. Sucker the Pacers in offering Peja at the last moment. Hiding the fact that he was done, with a bad back. He may recover but thats too much to chance. And the Pacer wanted Odom or Bynum to high of a price. So they had to let him go. The Kings have a great team Bibby Miller and Artest but with owners and coach that plays a 7 men rotation all year round squeezing out everything you got then throwing you away like if you were trash. No wonder why they had notning left when it came to the play-off.:no:[/QUOTE]
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[URL="http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10435"]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10435[/URL]
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Oh well, that guy is dumb.
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[QUOTE=LakersDynasty]Oh well, that guy is dumb.[/QUOTE]
So is anyone who has the Lakers in the top 10
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[QUOTE=AKADS]So is anyone who has the Lakers in the top 10[/QUOTE]
How sure are you the Lakers won't have a top 10 record this year?
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What are you thinkin.
how did you get 562 post trolling and saying stupid garbage
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[QUOTE=AKADS]What are you thinkin.
how did you get 562 post trolling and saying stupid garbage[/QUOTE]
WTF does that have to do with my question! And Cavs going to the Finals isn't stupid groupie sh!t, ok. :rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=LakersDynasty]WTF does that have to do with my question! And [I]Cavs going to the Finals isn't stupid groupie sh!t, ok[/I]. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Who said the cavs are going to the finals?
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[QUOTE=BradMiller52]Who said the cavs are going to the finals?[/QUOTE]
AKADS. Not in this thread though.
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We were one rebound from ECF. I feel we match up well VS the Heat. In the West Cavs are a 6 seed unless they got a week confrence.
I don't understand the Laker fans. Can you please say something intelligent on this board as far as how I know the Lakers aren't a top 10 team easy
Heat
Mavs
Suns
SAS
Cavs
Nets
Pistons
Bulls
Clippers
Rockets
Kings
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I feel the Cavs will go to finals.
They are deep. They have everything they need.
A Superstar. LeBron
Defencive Backcourt - Snow, Hughes
Shooters - Jones Donyell
Rebounders - Gooden, Big Z
Hustle and D - AV, Pollard
Veteran Leadership - Jones, Wesley, Snow.
I picked Cavs VS Suns.
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Whatever, that's your opinion. They are not better than Detroit IMO. About equal with the Bulls and Nets.
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OK the one thing is I am a respected poster who throws out a few homerisms once and a while, while you are a homer with everything you post.
Edit- Make u happy Lakertool
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[QUOTE=AKADS]OK the one thing is I am a respect poster who throws out a few homerisms once and while while you are homer with everything you post.[/QUOTE]
Give me an example, you seem too worried about what people who have never seen you in real life think about you.
Cavs going to the Finals more likely to happen than Lakers being a top 10 team, Agreed! :rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=AKADS]OK the one thing is I am a [B]respect[/B] poster who throws out a few homerisms [B]once and while [/B]while [B]you are homer [/B]with everything you post.[/QUOTE]
Easy to see why you're such a "respect" poster.
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WOW ur so smart. I miss spelled a few words.
Your a tool.
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[QUOTE=AKADS]WOW [B]ur [/B]so smart. I [B]miss spelled[/B] a few words.
[B]Your[/B] a tool.[/QUOTE]
:stupid:
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Didnt Lakers have a top 10 record last yr???
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[QUOTE=hotsizzle]Didnt Lakers have a top 10 record last yr???[/QUOTE]
Yes, but I think people wonder how they're going to maintain that without improving much except for adding Radmanovic, compared to say, the Rockets who add Battier and Tracy McGrady, or a team like the Jazz who will hopefully get Boozer and Kirilenko for all of the season.
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[QUOTE=hotsizzle]Didnt Lakers have a top 10 record last yr???[/QUOTE]
Exactly. But I'm a homer for believing the Lakers can do it again, and it's common sense and not homerism to think the Cavs will make the finals, go figure.
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Power Ranking are not the same as record. Second other teams have improved more then a 24th pick and a 3 point shooter.
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[QUOTE]Yes, but I think people wonder how they're going to maintain that without improving much except for adding Radmanovic, compared to say, the Rockets who add Battier and Tracy McGrady, or a team like the Jazz who will hopefully get Boozer and Kirilenko for all of the season.[/QUOTE]
I dont see why people are counting the lakers out already. Lakers were one of the best second half season teams. they improved drastically over the course of the season. if they play the way they played at the end of the season w/ lamar and kwame stepping up like they did, they will be a really good team. radman is not the main thing that will improve us. its not always about who they added. look at cleveland, they didnt add anyone that significant but theres no reason to believe they wont be better. lakers are building on what they had last yr...now we have teams like houston that got better...but memphis left so that cancels out. teams like the jazz,hornets got better but I dont see how they are better than lakers. I mean you got kobe/odom and they're better than any combo that jazz or hornets have. plus, we got a GOAT coach.
a dominating player in kobe, a GOAT coach, and an improved supporting cast. and despite major slumps throughout the season and nights where your 2nd option scored 5 points...still were top 10 recordwise. and what about them taking suns to 7 games..was that a fluke?
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Yes it was a fluke because they blew a 3-1 lead. :rolleyes:
I've been saying this all the time, some teams have improved, others haven't.
Gasol is probably out for half the season so that pretty much takes the Grizzlies out of playoff contention, a team that had a better record than the Lakers last year.
Clippers haven't done anything significant other than replacing Radman with Tim Thomas.
Kings will have a full season with Artest but lost Bonzi Wells who was the only reason they challenged the Spurs.
New Orleans added a shooter but still lack experience.
There's no guarantee that T-Mac will be his old self, back injuries don't just go away. They added Battier which is HUGE but are still one of the worst Teams in the league in the depth department.
Boozer and Kirilenko playing a whole season would make Utah contend for the NW division title, but again, how is this duo even close to Odom/Kobe?
Their backcourt is among the worst in the NBA, decent at PG but don't have a true SG.