What's your vert?

[QUOTE=MannyO]I can dunk off an alley oop I did it a few times, but yea the problem I'm having is I don't know how to take off on a run with the ball. Does anyone know how to fix this.[/QUOTE]
U need to work on palmin the ball i pretty sure im the same height as u and i have the wingspan my vert i think is around 29 or 30 and i can nip the rim 2 hand on the vert. I consider myself a two footed jumper but i can only dunk of one foot i think its easier dunkin with one hand off one foot so work on that and on palmin i cant find the video right now but the drills called squeezed the banana u lock ur elbows and squeeze the ball so hard it come out so the ball should be goin back and forth between ur hands

[QUOTE=HighFlyer23]How tall are you?[/QUOTE]
I would be impress to see a 5 foot 3 person on anyone with less than 6-10 standing reach dunk on 10 foot with a regulation basketball. Now that would require mad hops and I don't think Muggys Bogues could do that!

i don't even want to know it.

embarrisingly low i'm sure. i'm decently athletic but i don't have any ups anymore

[QUOTE=Spec5ial5k5]U need to work on palmin the ball i pretty sure im the same height as u and i have the wingspan my vert i think is around 29 or 30 and i can nip the rim 2 hand on the vert. I consider myself a two footed jumper but i can only dunk of one foot i think its easier dunkin with one hand off one foot so work on that and on palmin i cant find the video right now but the drills called squeezed the banana u lock ur elbows and squeeze the ball so hard it come out so the ball should be goin back and forth between ur hands[/QUOTE]


yea I need to see that. Also do you know how I can become more of a 1 footed jumper?
Because I don't get anywhere off 1 foot I can barely touch rim with 1.

[QUOTE=JG000]i don't even want to know it.

embarrisingly low i'm sure. i'm decently athletic but i don't have any ups anymore[/QUOTE]
If you have less than 2 ft of vertical than you don't have any hops.

[QUOTE=MannyO]yea I need to see that. Also do you know how I can become more of a 1 footed jumper?
Because I don't get anywhere off 1 foot I can barely touch rim with 1.[/QUOTE]
Repitition. I fell into the hole of being strictly a two-foot dunker and the only way I was able to climb out was through constant attempts at taking off of one foot. I would suggest working on rising to the rim without a ball at first. I would practice sprinting at full speed then elevating off of one foot toward the rim. In certain circumstances, you have to re-train your body to understand how to take off of just one foot.

Obviously, work up toward taking a ball in the air with you. You do not need to be able to palm a basketball to dunk. Perhaps it'd make it easier, but it's definitely not necessary.

Also, someone created a thread in here just a few days ago linking to a youtube video providing key tips of how to raise one's vert off of both one and two feet. The most important key I picked up was being sure to stride toward the basket. A long stride leading into your take-off step will ensure you are lower to the ground when you begin to jump, thus allowing for maximum spring. If we find ourselves approaching the rim upright with a high dribble, that may be something to look at.

Edit: Here is a link to the thread on instant vertical help, created by NotYetGreat. [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143610[/url]

Up until 2004 my height was 177 cm or 5'10" when measured. Then I started doing some Hot Yoga and got a little more flexible. I was always more flexible man the average guys (like I can put my palm on the floor and head to my knee) but not flexible compare to girls. Anyway I seem to have slowly stretched my spine long longer. In my last couple of measurements I broke 180 cm now. 180.5 and 180.3 on (solid 5'11" now) my last two measurements recently. :-) And I'm about to turn 36.

At about 2001 or 2002 I was able to be about 5" above the rim (I was in late 20's then). So I figure that's about 30" running vertical. Just slightly above average I think. Last year I was lazy and getting chubby and bellied up to 190 lbs. I went from being 5" above the rim at my best to my worst early this year which is about a good 5-6" below the rim. The feeling was SO NASTY. I felt slow and un-cordinated. My basketball IQ is pretty good so it's sad when the body is out of shape and can't do what I used to able to do with ease.

I started to play ball almost everyday in Feb 2009. Combined that with getting back to Yoga in the last two months, I've slowly but surely got back in shape. Now I'm back down to 162 lbs and I've got my agility back (85-90% back I think). And now I can touch the rim (barely) again. Hopefully with more steady training I can gain it all back if not more. I think my running vert is about 25" right now. Decent for a soon to be 36 yo guy I guess. :-)

My dream/goal is to have 35-40" of vertical so I can dunk (at least once in my life hahaha)...

[QUOTE=Rake2204]Repitition. I fell into the hole of being strictly a two-foot dunker and the only way I was able to climb out was through constant attempts at taking off of one foot. I would suggest working on rising to the rim without a ball at first. I would practice sprinting at full speed then elevating off of one foot toward the rim. In certain circumstances, you have to re-train your body to understand how to take off of just one foot.

Obviously, work up toward taking a ball in the air with you. You do not need to be able to palm a basketball to dunk. Perhaps it'd make it easier, but it's definitely not necessary.

Also, someone created a thread in here just a few days ago linking to a youtube video providing key tips of how to raise one's vert off of both one and two feet. The most important key I picked up was being sure to stride toward the basket. A long stride leading into your take-off step will ensure you are lower to the ground when you begin to jump, thus allowing for maximum spring. If we find ourselves approaching the rim upright with a high dribble, that may be something to look at.

Edit: Here is a link to the thread on instant vertical help, created by NotYetGreat. [url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143610[/url][/QUOTE]


wow:eek: that helped a lot. I think I am not a 1 foot jumper because I have a lack of hip strength that I need to hyperextend. Anybody know how to improve that strength?

30 standing and 34 running

[QUOTE=supersmashbros]I would be impress to see a 5 foot 3 person on anyone with less than 6-10 standing reach dunk on 10 foot with a regulation basketball. Now that would require mad hops and I don't think Muggys Bogues could do that![/QUOTE]
Kelly Baggett (author of the [URL="http://www.skyhighvertical.com/vertical-jump-bible-review.php"]Vertical Jump Bible[/URL]) is 5'9 and can do some serious dunks. 6 inches is a big difference but Baggett doesn't have the longest arms, I bet it's doable.

It would be crazy though.

ITT: NBA level athletes with 35"+ verticals

that said, I don't know my exact number. I'm 6'6 and I can graze the top of my head against the backboard off a running start.

This is the worst time of the year for me, the winter doldrums. Right when a lot of indoor basketball is winding down and it's still too cold to get in a good game outside. I can't wait to get those summer legs. I seem to gain a couple of inches on my vertical come summer time, and that is why I like summer.

I've been noticing my Vertical increasing to the point where i can just about dunk a size 6 ball now where as i was previously only just grabbing rim. I'm pretty sure i know why it's increased, funnily enough i've been playing with my nephew a lot lately on a lowered ring (8ft?) and anything he misses i'll putback so i'm thinking the continuous repetitions have actually increased my vert about an inch. I've never properly measured my vert but i think it's something around 27-28' and i'm 5'11.5:cheers:

Just measured my standing reach(7'8") and i can just about grab a 10ft ring so i figure i can reach 10'3" with a run up which would make my running vert about 31inch?:cheers:

I tested it a couple of months ago.

I had a 26 inch vertical with a 3-5 steps gather, jumping off two feet. I'm a one legged jumper so my max vertical would've been higher. Not really high but I wasn't surprised.

at age 19 it was officially measured @ 32 inches from a stand still. Running start vert is higher but never measured it. I am guessing about 35-36.

56 inches
[COLOR="White"]Hell No, I'm 14 lol[/COLOR]

I'm 16, 6"1 and 145, white. Not 100% on what my standing reach is, but I'd say it's a little under 8"

I can just touch the ring off a 2 leg jump, and can grab it (1 hand) off a 1leg jump (Probs about 4-5" over the ring).

So somewhere around 24" standing, 28" running I'd say.

Gonna try get into the gym next few weeks, see if I can get those numbers up a bit, so eager to start dunking.

30 standing, 34 running. My best dunk is a self oop off the backboard. Im 18, 6'0 and two foot jumper

36"

(5'11", 19 Years Old)

I'm 22 and I'm 5'7 and I can touch (sometimes grab the rim on a 10 ft rim) the rim. My reach is bout 86 inches. Is that good?

14 years old. 6'1. Standing vert - 22-24 inches. Running - 28 inches. I can run jump and grab a 10ft rim with the tip of my middle finger on a good day.

I tried dunking a golf ball...dunked it. Tennis ball? Dunk. Volleyball? Smashed that shit. Regular ball? Smashed that against the rim and busted my ass.:oldlol:

I've lost weight so mine improved a little since last time.

I don't know my vert. I'm 6'1 1/2 with shoes on. Starting from the FT line running up for a 2 legged power jump, I can almost get high enough to grab rim and hang. Although doing a running 1 legged jump, I can barely touch rim. I'm 23

can anyone tell me what my vert is? lol

im 14 ,5'6" with a 7' standing reach

i can touch glass on a regulation hoop

just gimme a bare estimate

[QUOTE=No Name]can anyone tell me what my vert is? lol

im 14 ,5'6" with a 7' standing reach

i can touch glass on a regulation hoop

just gimme a bare estimate[/QUOTE]
Well, you say you have an 84'' standing reach (7 feet). I'd surmise that the backboard may be about eight inches below the rim (112'' total inches off the ground - 9'4''). Therefore, your rough max vertical would be 112 - 84 = [i]28 inches[/i].

Of course, backboard being eight inches below the rim is just a rough estimate. We'd also have to account for whether you're touching glass, slapping glass, hitting the backboard pad, etc. There's also a lot of amateur backboards out there that are much lower than NBA boards. All that stuff might need to be taken into account.

In this case, I used the following picture as a reference:

[img]http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2009/03/09/alg_carter-dunk.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=J21]ITT: NBA level athletes with 35"+ verticals

that said, I don't know my exact number. I'm 6'6 and I can graze the top of my head against the backboard off a running start.[/QUOTE]

Even 30+ is pretty standard for an NBA player. It's not surprising, though, based on past threads I've discovered that ISH is filled with athletic freaks of nature with 5% body fat who can jump higher than Monta Ellis (31 inch max vert), bench press double their body weight, and someway somehow all have wing spans that would be in the 90th percentile. Props to the people who actually tell the truth, but I'm assuming that just about everyone is tacking on an extra 6 inches either on purpose or by accident.

Personally, I'm 6 feet even, average length arms, and can just barely touch the rim, so I'm guessing something like 24 inches. By the way, I'm dead average among the people I've played with at a gym NW DC that caters to both white people who moved from the burbs for work and inner city types who went because it was the only indoor court in the area that was available to the general public (well, who were willing to pay 75 dollars a month for a gym membership), all in their 20s or early 30s. A handful of people can dunk pretty comfortably, but the VAST majority - 95% or so - are also about 6 feet tall (an average height for Americans) and can touch the rim or do baby dunks which is what I'd be willing to bet is the case with ISH.

33 inches

[QUOTE=Rake2204]Well, you say you have an 84'' standing reach (7 feet). I'd surmise that the backboard may be about eight inches below the rim (112'' total inches off the ground - 9'4''). Therefore, your rough max vertical would be 112 - 84 = [i]28 inches[/i].

Of course, backboard being eight inches below the rim is just a rough estimate. We'd also have to account for whether you're touching glass, slapping glass, hitting the backboard pad, etc. There's also a lot of amateur backboards out there that are much lower than NBA boards. All that stuff might need to be taken into account.

In this case, I used the following picture as a reference:

[img]http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2009/03/09/alg_carter-dunk.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

well here is the indoor hoop [img]http://www.porterathletic.com/images/catalog/image.php/b1657_F.jpg[/img]

and the outdoor hoop [img]http://www.porterathletic.com/images/catalog/image.php/RecSteelBackboard.jpg[/img]

they are both the same dimensions as nba and i can just barely touch the the part that is perpendicular to the ground(without the pads) same on the outdoor hoop.

[QUOTE=GiveItToBurrito]Even 30+ is pretty standard for an NBA player. It's not surprising, though, based on past threads I've discovered that ISH is filled with athletic freaks of nature with 5% body fat who can jump higher than Monta Ellis (31 inch max vert), bench press double their body weight, and someway somehow all have wing spans that would be in the 90th percentile. Props to the people who actually tell the truth, but I'm assuming that just about everyone is tacking on an extra 6 inches either on purpose or by accident.

Personally, I'm 6 feet even, average length arms, and can just barely touch the rim, so I'm guessing something like 24 inches. By the way, I'm dead average among the people I've played with at a gym NW DC that caters to both white people who moved from the burbs for work and inner city types who went because it was the only indoor court in the area that was available to the general public (well, who were willing to pay 75 dollars a month for a gym membership), all in their 20s or early 30s. A handful of people can dunk pretty comfortably, but the VAST majority - 95% or so - are also about 6 feet tall (an average height for Americans) and can touch the rim or do baby dunks which is what I'd be willing to bet is the case with ISH.[/QUOTE]
I understand your overarching point and while I stand by my numbers, it's not a stretch to believe many others are adding to them.

However, I had a very hard time believing Monta Ellis' max vertical was just 31''. I am also 6'3'' and house a maximum vertical higher than 31''. And while I acknowledge Ellis almost certainly has longer arms than me, there's no way he'd be dunking like he does with a lower max vert than me. In short, I'm not doing what he's doing.

After doing a small amount of research, it is my belief that 31'' is Monta Ellis' one-step vertical (which would eclipse my one-step vert). I could not find 2005 Draft Combine official results like I can with current combines, but this site ([url]http://www.topendsports.com/sport/basketball/testing-draft-results-2005.htm[/url]) did provide a rundown with the matching number for Ellis. As Gerald Green is listed as having a 39'' one-step vert and is then listed in the form at the bottom as well (again with a 39'' inch vert) I feel it can be deduced that Ellis' number is likely his one-step, which makes a huge difference, considering he does the majority of his high flying off of speedy run-ups. His max vert likely far eclipses 31''.

It's just a small detail, but I just wanted to straighten that out. If guys in here have a max vert of 31'', it doesn't mean they'll be dunking like Monta.

[QUOTE=Rake2204]I understand your overarching point and while I stand by my numbers, it's not a stretch to believe many others are adding to them.

However, I had a very hard time believing Monta Ellis' max vertical was just 31''. I am also 6'3'' and house a maximum vertical higher than 31''. And while I acknowledge Ellis almost certainly has longer arms than me, there's no way he'd be dunking like he does with a lower max vert than me. In short, I'm not doing what he's doing.

After doing a small amount of research, it is my belief that 31'' is Monta Ellis' one-step vertical (which would eclipse my one-step vert). I could not find 2005 Draft Combine official results like I can with current combines, but this site ([url]http://www.topendsports.com/sport/basketball/testing-draft-results-2005.htm[/url]) did provide a rundown with the matching number for Ellis. As Gerald Green is listed as having a 39'' one-step vert and is then listed in the form at the bottom as well (again with a 39'' inch vert) I feel it can be deduced that Ellis' number is likely his one-step, which makes a huge difference, considering he does the majority of his high flying off of speedy run-ups. His max vert likely far eclipses 31''.

It's just a small detail, but I just wanted to straighten that out. If guys in here have a max vert of 31'', it doesn't mean they'll be dunking like Monta.[/QUOTE]

It's here, 31.5 max vert [url]http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/[/url]

[QUOTE=GiveItToBurrito]Even 30+ is pretty standard for an NBA player. It's not surprising, though, based on past threads I've discovered that ISH is filled with athletic freaks of nature with 5% body fat who can jump higher than Monta Ellis (31 inch max vert), bench press double their body weight, and someway somehow all have wing spans that would be in the 90th percentile. Props to the people who actually tell the truth, but I'm assuming that just about everyone is tacking on an extra 6 inches either on purpose or by accident.

Personally, I'm 6 feet even, average length arms, and can just barely touch the rim, so I'm guessing something like 24 inches. By the way, I'm dead average among the people I've played with at a gym NW DC that caters to both white people who moved from the burbs for work and inner city types who went because it was the only indoor court in the area that was available to the general public (well, who were willing to pay 75 dollars a month for a gym membership), all in their 20s or early 30s. A handful of people can dunk pretty comfortably, but the VAST majority - 95% or so - are also about 6 feet tall (an average height for Americans) and can touch the rim or do baby dunks which is what I'd be willing to bet is the case with ISH.[/QUOTE]

75 a month is pretty steep. What gym is that? Lifetime? You ever play anywhere in Nova?

Anyways, yeah a ton of people on here lie, and I don't get what they have to gain from it. I'm 6'1 barefoot I believe and can easily grab rim, but I've never been able to dunk a regulation ball. I'm annoyingly close, but haven't been able to. No idea what my wingspan/standing reach is but I'd say it's a little above average just based on the fact that a lot of people have told me that I have long arms.

[QUOTE=IlliniFan]75 a month is pretty steep. What gym is that? Lifetime? You ever play anywhere in Nova?

Anyways, yeah a ton of people on here lie, and I don't get what they have to gain from it. I'm 6'1 barefoot I believe and can easily grab rim, but I've never been able to dunk a regulation ball. I'm annoyingly close, but haven't been able to. No idea what my wingspan/standing reach is but I'd say it's a little above average just based on the fact that a lot of people have told me that I have long arms.[/QUOTE]

Depends. People have said my friend has long arms when he is 6'2 barefoot with a max 7'11 reach... which is like about as average as it gets and shorter than almost any NBA player his height (for example Deron Williams, Luther Head, and Monte Ellis are all 6'2 and have reaches of 8'2 or higher). You could have a long wingspan, but that's not going to matter much when it comes to dunking except that if you could dunk maybe you could dunk from a little further out. My friend has a 6'2 wingspan BTW so it's not like he has long arms or a high reach. Then there are those guys who really do have long arms/high reach or both. So yea it depends. At 6'1 I wouldn't be surprised if you just a decent vertical of about 31-32 or so with a 7'10 standing reach (which would be an average reach)... but I wouldn't be surprised if you had a longer reach and less vert either.

[quote]It's here, 31.5 max vert [url]http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/[/url][/quote]

A couple things. Monte's vert although measured at only 31.5 inches... he obviously can jump higher than that now. He can't throw down any sick dunks tho just normal ones... so I'm thinking in games his vert is around around 35 or so giving him a max height of about 11'+ (since with a 31.5" vert he was reaching a max height of 10'9.5.

Blake Griffen only measured out with a 35" vertical, but he obviously jumps a higher than that in games too. Some guys don't test as well because they aren't as warm as they are in games and the adrenaline isn't there. I'd say for most guys it's like that. You could probably add a couple inches to almost everyone's vert in games.

In response to your earlier post. I'm sure some people do just lie, but I'm sure some people don't really know and just say a number that's higher than it really is, and then there are those who played basketball competitively or still do and really do have higher verts... Or even just streetballers who play a lot. Most people if they play basketball consistently and do nothing else, they will have 30+ max verts easy. If they pair that with stretching routines and weight lifting/plyos... it would be even higher. So you just can't know where everyone is coming from... But Monte Ellis is a poor example because 31.5 inch max vert for a guard in the NBA is shitty... and most average people are the size of guards so that's who you would compare them too. The average Max vert of NBA guards is 35". That's from draftexpress. Obv. the average joe's aren't going to have athe same vert on average as NBA players, but it's realistic to think that a person who plays basketball on a regular basis would have a vert over 30".

[QUOTE=GiveItToBurrito]It's here, 31.5 max vert [url]http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/[/url][/QUOTE]
Whoa, thanks for that link, I've never seen such a comprehensive list. It seems I stand corrected, though something still doesn't seem to be adding up. I remember taking a look at the 2010 Draft Combine and seeing my max vert fall right in the middle of the pack. However, my max reach was the second from lowest (among the fifty listed). 5'10'' Sherron Collins was the only guy with a lower max reach than me and I think most everyone else could at least touch 11' (maybe not Willie Warren). So to think Monta's max reach was 10'9.5'' after watching him do what he's done out there in the NBA. . .something is awry.

I'm not saying you're off point or anything though. Everything you've said has been true. It's just like, I wonder if (like Swaggin' said) Monta was just [i]very[/i] cold or somehow uninspired? I would find it hard to believe that a guy could not go his hardest during the combine. Or maybe he's just got a better mix of jumping ability. Because with a very, very similar max reach, I've never been catching in-game alley-oops as frequently like he's done numerous times.

A slightly off-topic question, does anyone know how the "bench" portion of the draft combine works? As in, do you know how much weight they must lift?

Edit: I have read a few sites who claim it is a test of how many times a player can bench 185lbs. Does that sound right? I know basketball is not just about strength, but it [i]is[/i] kind of interesting when I read that players like Kevin Durant could not push 185 once (and Kawhi Leonard just three times). It makes me feel jacked (even though I'm not).

I am 14 years old 5'2" tall and I can touch the 9'6" and I have a running vert of 40inches approximatively(I have short arms) and I don't know my standing vert because I'm not good at 2 feet jumps so it is like only 24 inches

[QUOTE=pierre2324]I am 14 years old 5'2" tall and I can touch the 9'6" and I have a running vert of 40inches approximatively(I have short arms) and I don't know my standing vert because I'm not good at 2 feet jumps so it is like only 24 inches[/QUOTE]

40 inch vert at 14? What is your standing reach?

[QUOTE=pierre2324]I am 14 years old 5'2" tall and I can touch the 9'6" and I have a running vert of 40inches approximatively(I have short arms) and I don't know my standing vert because I'm not good at 2 feet jumps so it is like only 24 inches[/QUOTE]
To help you out a little bit here, 9'6'' is 114'' off the ground. If your vertical was truly 40 inches, that would mean your standing reach would be 74'', the equivalent of 6'2''. That'd then mean your arms extend just 12 inches above your head, which seems relatively unlikely. For instance, as a short-armed 6'3'', my arms extend 18 inches above my head, resulting in a standing reach of 7'9''.

With respect, I'd say chances are you do not have a 40 inch vertical.

[QUOTE=No Name]can anyone tell me what my vert is? lol

im 14 ,5'6" with a 7' standing reach

i can touch glass on a regulation hoop

just gimme a bare estimate[/QUOTE]

lol its been like 8 months

im 5'8" now but still 7' standing reach :coleman:

but now i can touch rim :rockon:

[QUOTE=No Name]lol its been like 8 months

im 5'8" now but still 7' standing reach :coleman:

but now i can touch rim :rockon:[/QUOTE]

Only your neck and your head grew? But seriously, good stuff. I love it when hard work pays off and in return I see progress and results.