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Re: Kobe Bryant scores 61 points against Knicks in Madison Square Garden
[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B]243354[/B]
Kobes the Oldest player to score 60 points. Only player over 30 to score 60.[/QUOTE]
No, actually Wilt has the record, since he scored 60+ twice at an older age than Kobe. Also, Tom Chambers was a few months older when he went for 60.
Having said that, Bynum's injury, the level of some of the following opponents and the fact that Kobe usually is at his hottest during January-February will surely provide him with some chances to have additional huge scoring nights, so stay tuned.
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Re: Kobe Freaking Bryant!
[QUOTE=kidachi]what? you've never heard the 99 point night of Jordan? he did it in 15mins.[/QUOTE]
NBA Live 2020?
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Re: Kobe Freaking Bryant!
[QUOTE=243354]kobe> jordan
kobe=G.O.A.T
kobe has 5 60+ games.:eek:
:bowdown:[/QUOTE]
Kobe 27/5.5/5
Wade 28.5/5/7
Lebron 28/7.5/7.5
Now I'm no Kobe hater, but given the stats above...is there a RATIONAL explanation why Kobe is so much better than the other guys to you? I think Kobe's production would be better with a worse team, 30/6/5 sound realistic to me. But that doesn't put him above Wade and James in terms of production and impact on a game.
So for a guy like me who doesn't support a winning team or a top 3 player, why should I believe that Kobe is miles above Wade and Lebron?
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[QUOTE=243354]Kobes the Oldest player to score 60 points. Only player over 30 to score 60.
has the most 60 point games for 1 player since 1968 (40 years).
kobe - 5
jordan - 4
rest of the players that scored 60+ since 1968 tied with 1.
the G.O.A.T :applause:[/QUOTE]
Tale of the tape.
[B][U]Michael Jordan[/U][/B]
April 20, 1986
63 vs Boston
Also had 5 rebs and 6 asts
Boston won 67 games in 86
Went on to become NBA Champions
[I]** Happened in the playoffs[/I]
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198703040DET.html"]March 4, 1987[/URL]
61 vs Detroit
He also had 7 rebs, 3 asts, 3 stls and 3 blks
Detroit won 52 games in 87
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198704160CHI.html"]April 16, 1987[/URL]
61 vs Atlanta
Also had 10 rebs, 1 ast, 4 stls and 1 blk
Atlanta won 57 games in 87
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199003280CLE.html"]March 28, 1990[/URL]
69 vs Cleveland
Also had 18 rebs, 6 asts, 4 stls and 1 blk
Cleveland won 42 games in 90
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199301160CHI.html"]January 16, 1993[/URL]
64 vs Orlando
Also had 6 rebs, 1 ast and 5 stls
Orlando won 41 games in 1993
[U][B]Kobe Bryant[/B][/U]
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200601220LAL.html"]January 22, 2006[/URL]
81 vs Toronto
Also had 6 rebs, 2 asts, 3 stls and 1 blk
Toronto won 27 games in 2006
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200703160LAL.html"]March 16, 2007[/URL]
65 vs Portland
Also had 7 rebs, 3 asts and 3 stls
Portland won 32 games in 2007
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200512200LAL.html"]December 20, 2005[/URL]
62 vs Dallas
Also had 8 rebs, 0 asts, 3 stls
Dallas won 60 games in 2006
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200703220MEM.html"]March 22, 2007[/URL]
60 vs Memphis
Also had 5 rebs and 4 asts
Memphis won 22 games in 2007
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200902020NYK.html"]February 2, 2009[/URL]
61 vs New York
Also had 0 rebs, 3 asts and 1 blk
New York is 21-26 so far this season
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Re: Kobe Freaking Bryant!
[QUOTE=Da_Realist]Tale of the tape.
[B][U]Michael Jordan[/U][/B]
April 20, 1986
63 vs Boston
Also had 5 rebs and 6 asts
[B]Boston won 59 games in 86[/B]
Defending champions
[I]** Happened in the playoffs[/I]
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198703040DET.html"]March 4, 1987[/URL]
61 vs Detroit
He also had 7 rebs, 3 asts, 3 stls and 3 blks
Detroit won 52 games in 87
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198704160CHI.html"]April 16, 1987[/URL]
61 vs Atlanta
Also had 10 rebs, 1 ast, 4 stls and 1 blk
Atlanta won 57 games in 87
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199003280CLE.html"]March 28, 1990[/URL]
69 vs Cleveland
Also had 18 rebs, 6 asts, 4 stls and 1 blk
Cleveland won 42 games in 90
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199301160CHI.html"]January 16, 1993[/URL]
64 vs Orlando
Also had 6 rebs, 1 ast and 5 stls
Orlando won 41 games in 1993
[U][B]Kobe Bryant[/B][/U]
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200601220LAL.html"]January 22, 2006[/URL]
81 vs Toronto
Also had 6 rebs, 2 asts, 3 stls and 1 blk
Toronto won 27 games in 2006
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200703160LAL.html"]March 16, 2007[/URL]
65 vs Portland
Also had 7 rebs, 3 asts and 3 stls
Portland won 32 games in 2007
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200512200LAL.html"]December 20, 2005[/URL]
62 vs Dallas
Also had 8 rebs, 0 asts, 3 stls
Dallas won 60 games in 2006
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200703220MEM.html"]March 22, 2007[/URL]
60 vs Memphis
Also had 5 rebs and 4 asts
Memphis won 22 games in 2007
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200902020NYK.html"]February 2, 2009[/URL]
61 vs New York
Also had 0 rebs, 3 asts and 1 blk
New York is 21-26 so far this season[/QUOTE]
the celtics team that MJ scored 63 points on actually won 67 games in that season and they were not the defending champs, but rather won the championship in that same playoffs. the '86 celtics, which MJ abused, is considered by some to be the GOAT.
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Re: Kobe Freaking Bryant!
[QUOTE=gotbacon23]the celtics team that MJ scored 63 points on actually won 67 games in that season and they were not the defending champs, but rather won the championship in that same playoffs.[/QUOTE]
You're right. Repped for correcting me.
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Re: Kobe Freaking Bryant!
[QUOTE=Da_Realist]Tale of the tape.
[B][U]Michael Jordan[/U][/B]
April 20, 1986
63 vs Boston
Also had 5 rebs and 6 asts
Boston won 59 games in 86
Defending champions
[I]** Happened in the playoffs[/I]
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198703040DET.html"]March 4, 1987[/URL]
61 vs Detroit
He also had 7 rebs, 3 asts, 3 stls and 3 blks
Detroit won 52 games in 87
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198704160CHI.html"]April 16, 1987[/URL]
61 vs Atlanta
Also had 10 rebs, 1 ast, 4 stls and 1 blk
Atlanta won 57 games in 87
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199003280CLE.html"]March 28, 1990[/URL]
69 vs Cleveland
Also had 18 rebs, 6 asts, 4 stls and 1 blk
Cleveland won 42 games in 90
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199301160CHI.html"]January 16, 1993[/URL]
64 vs Orlando
Also had 6 rebs, 1 ast and 5 stls
Orlando won 41 games in 1993
[U][B]Kobe Bryant[/B][/U]
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200601220LAL.html"]January 22, 2006[/URL]
81 vs Toronto
Also had 6 rebs, 2 asts, 3 stls and 1 blk
Toronto won 27 games in 2006
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200703160LAL.html"]March 16, 2007[/URL]
65 vs Portland
Also had 7 rebs, 3 asts and 3 stls
Portland won 32 games in 2007
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200512200LAL.html"]December 20, 2005[/URL]
62 vs Dallas
Also had 8 rebs, 0 asts, 3 stls
Dallas won 60 games in 2006
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200703220MEM.html"]March 22, 2007[/URL]
60 vs Memphis
Also had 5 rebs and 4 asts
Memphis won 22 games in 2007
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200902020NYK.html"]February 2, 2009[/URL]
61 vs New York
Also had 0 rebs, 3 asts and 1 blk
New York is 21-26 so far this season[/QUOTE]
You've completely made Kobe's games irrelevant. They shouldn't even count. Nothing compares to Jordan's games!!! He's the greatest at everything basketball-related of all time!!! Da Realist FTW! I hope this spreads across the sports world and makes Kobe rethink why he's even touched a ball. :hammertime:
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[QUOTE=KenneBell]You've completely made Kobe's games irrelevant. They shouldn't even count. Nothing compares to Jordan's games!!! He's the greatest at everything basketball-related of all time!!! Da Realist FTW! I hope this spreads across the sports world and makes Kobe rethink why he's even touched a ball. :hammertime:[/QUOTE]
No. That's not true. He did have [I]one[/I] great 60 point game against a playoff team. Can't forget that :no:
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Re: Kobe Freaking Bryant!
[QUOTE=Allstar24]Please delete this thread before Kobe goes cold in the second half.[/QUOTE]
61 doesn't sound so cold to me
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Re: Kobe Bryant scores 61 points against Knicks in Madison Square Garden
[QUOTE=243354]kobe-5 60+ games in 4 1/2 seasons as the no.1
mj-5 in his whole career.:roll:[/QUOTE]
thats pretty stupid considering kobe has been taking more shots then shaq since 2001.
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Re: Kobe Bryant scores 61 points against Knicks in Madison Square Garden
[QUOTE=243354]kobe-5 60+ games in 4 1/2 seasons as the no.1
mj-5 in his whole career.:roll:[/QUOTE]
i hope you realize--i know you don't, you a blind homer, but i can only dream--that 61 vs D'Antoni's Knicks is not better than 50+ vs Riley's Knicks.
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Re: Kobe Bryant scores 61 points against Knicks in Madison Square Garden
lmao @ all the haters.
Integrity of the game? HAHA, get the eff outta here.
Fact: Kobe Bryant holds the record for the most points scored in the Garden.
Deal with it. No one is saying he's this or that, just that he had a great game.
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Re: Kobe Bryant scores 61 points against Knicks in Madison Square Garden
Man, I can't imagine the type of crazy statlines Lebron, Kobe, or Wade would be putting up if they decide to sign with the Knicks. I don't think +60 to +80 point games 4 or 5 times a year would really be far-fetched.
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Re: Kobe Bryant scores 61 points against Knicks in Madison Square Garden
[QUOTE=dajadeed]lmao @ all the haters.
Integrity of the game? HAHA, get the eff outta here.
Fact: Kobe Bryant holds the record for the most points scored in the Garden.
Deal with it. No one is saying he's this or that, just that he had a great game.[/QUOTE]
yep, it's Kobe haters/Jordan fans that brought the whole MJ vs Kobe into the discussion
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Re: Kobe Bryant scores 61 points against Knicks in Madison Square Garden
BTW, for all the numbnut retards here bashing Kobe, there was a game on ESPN Classic a while back, Larry Legend in the 80s going against some team. Less than a minute left, Celtics up big, and the Celtics WERE FOULING the other team so Larry could hit the 60 point mark.
Some of you guys need to take your medication and realize that this is only a game. If Kobe is good enough to score at will against a team, then he better do that ****. If he's shooting 50% or better, KEEP SHOOTING THE DAMN BALL.
Appreciate this. Other players can do great things, no need to **** on a Kobe thread.
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Re: Kobe Freaking Bryant!
[QUOTE=Da_Realist]Tale of the tape.
[B][U]Michael Jordan[/U][/B]
April 20, 1986
63 vs Boston
Also had 5 rebs and 6 asts
Boston won 67 games in 86
Went on to become NBA Champions
[I]** Happened in the playoffs[/I]
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198703040DET.html"]March 4, 1987[/URL]
61 vs Detroit
He also had 7 rebs, 3 asts, 3 stls and 3 blks
Detroit won 52 games in 87
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198704160CHI.html"]April 16, 1987[/URL]
61 vs Atlanta
Also had 10 rebs, 1 ast, 4 stls and 1 blk
Atlanta won 57 games in 87
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199003280CLE.html"]March 28, 1990[/URL]
69 vs Cleveland
Also had 18 rebs, 6 asts, 4 stls and 1 blk
Cleveland won 42 games in 90
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199301160CHI.html"]January 16, 1993[/URL]
64 vs Orlando
Also had 6 rebs, 1 ast and 5 stls
Orlando won 41 games in 1993
[/QUOTE]
I think both of these factions are playing a meaningless game of back and forth... Both of these players have put forward a number of great efforts. Instead of comparing their games and downplaying the accomplishments of one player or another, we should simply marvel at what they have been able to accomplish and leave it at that.
Da_Realist, those were some excellent games on Jordan's part, and you made a good point concerning the level of competition Jordan was facing when he played those games, but if we're going to downplay accomplishments, one could easily point out that Jordan lost 3 of those 5 games in which he scored 60+ and that he was less efficient in those 5 60+ point games than Bryant has been in his 5 60+ point games, while averaging fewer points...
Understand that there is always a response... always a come back. This foolishness needs to stop. There are a few Bryant groupies here who have knowingly made provocative statements looking to bait other posters. Those posters should be ignored. After awhile, don't you guys get tired of the same arguments?
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Re: Kobe Bryant scores 61 points against Knicks in Madison Square Garden
[QUOTE=Brunch@Five]yep, it's Kobe haters/Jordan fans that brought the whole MJ vs Kobe into the discussion[/QUOTE]
There have been Bryant groupies in here looking to provoke others though. Let's not overlook that as well.
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[QUOTE=MaxFly]I think both of these factions are playing a meaningless game of back and forth... Both of these players have put forward a number of great efforts. Instead of comparing their games and downplaying the accomplishments of one player or another, we should simply marvel at what they have been able to accomplish and leave it at that.
Understand that there is always a response... always a come back. This foolishness needs to stop. There are a few Bryant groupies here who have knowingly made provocative statements looking to bait other posters. Those posters should be ignored. After awhile, don't you guys get tired of the same arguments?[/QUOTE] this is why Max is on top of the food chain.. nice post
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[QUOTE=MaxFly] one could easily point out that Jordan lost 3 of those 5 games in which he scored 60+ and that he was less efficient in those 5 60+ point games than Bryant has been in his 5 60+ point games, while averaging fewer points...
[/QUOTE]
Wait a second. Are you trying to tell me that MJ lost games? And he didn't hit 100% of his shots? That goes against everything I've heard on here. :roll:
I'm sorry, I'll stop.
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[QUOTE=MaxFly]Da_Realist, those were some excellent games on Jordan's part, and you made a good point concerning the level of competition Jordan was facing when he played those games, but if we're going to downplay accomplishments, one could easily point out that Jordan [B]lost 3 of those 5 games[/B] in which he scored 60+ and that [B]he was less efficient in those 5 60+ point games than Bryant has been in his 5 60+ point games, while averaging fewer points[/B]...[/QUOTE]
Sure. That happens when you play opponents that are capable of beating you... i.e. quality opponents.
He played his best against tougher teams when it mattered the most. I don't think that downgrades his performances. :confusedshrug:
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Re: Kobe Bryant scores 61 points against Knicks in Madison Square Garden
[QUOTE=243354]kobe-5 60+ games in 4 1/2 seasons as the no.1
mj-5 in his whole career.:roll:[/QUOTE]
The obvious response is:
Jordan - 6 Rings at the no. 1 option
Kobe - 0 Rings at the no. 1 option
But I don't really like to get in these things. I actually really like Kobe and hope he does well.
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[QUOTE=KenneBell]Wait a second. Are you trying to tell me that MJ lost games? And he didn't hit 100% of his shots? That goes against everything I've heard on here. :roll:
I'm sorry, I'll stop.[/QUOTE]
Lol, I don't want people to focus on that aspect of my post. My goal was to point out that if people [B]want[/B] to nitpick, they [B]will[/B] nitpick, regardless of how trivial, regardless of how inconsequential the issue they've chosen to focus on. We create never ending arguments that really aren't all that important and only serve to distract from some of the great basketball we have been privileged to see.
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Re: Kobe Bryant scores 61 points against Knicks in Madison Square Garden
[QUOTE=rox fa sho]60+ pts is no joke. when kobe starts doing 60 every game then its a joke.[/QUOTE]
Best quote of this thread period
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[QUOTE=MaxFly]I think both of these factions are playing a meaningless game of back and forth... Both of these players have put forward a number of great efforts. Instead of comparing their games and downplaying the accomplishments of one player or another, we should simply marvel at what they have been able to accomplish and leave it at that.
Da_Realist, those were some excellent games on Jordan's part, and you made a good point concerning the level of competition Jordan was facing when he played those games, but if we're going to downplay accomplishments, one could easily point out that Jordan lost 3 of those 5 games in which he scored 60+ and that he was less efficient in those 5 60+ point games than Bryant has been in his 5 60+ point games, while averaging fewer points...
Understand that there is always a response... always a come back. This foolishness needs to stop. There are a few Bryant groupies here who have knowingly made provocative statements looking to bait other posters. Those posters should be ignored. After awhile, don't you guys get tired of the same arguments?[/QUOTE]
The Bulls won 3 of those 5 not lose them. But I agree with you. I think Jordan's was more impressive then Kobe's cause of the teams he played, but whatever. I don't see why Jordan supporters really still feel the need to come and defend Jordan over Kobe. Jordan vs. Kobe should've never been an argument in the first place, and it definitely should not be after what happened last year.
Fellow Jordan fans, I don't know why any of you feel the need to get into these arguments when Jordan's combination of accomplishments/skills/intangibles pretty much trumps Kobe's, and Kobe would really need a miracle at this point of his career to surpass him. One more 60+ point game isn't going to change that. Just appreciate Kobe for what he is, and that is an amazing player.
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Re: Kobe Bryant scores 61 points against Knicks in Madison Square Garden
if anyone other than Kobe dropped that 61, there would not be any such fuss. It would just be high praise...and deservedly so.
Instead, we get all this, "well MJ blah blah blah"
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One of my work mates went to this game, his first ever basketball game
LUCKY BASTARD!! :oldlol:
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[QUOTE=guy]The Bulls won 3 of those 5 not lose them.[/QUOTE]
Of the five, the Bulls lost to the Hawks, Celtics and Magic... two of which were in overtime, with the Celtics game having a second overtime... so they were very close...
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Re: Kobe Bryant scores 61 points against Knicks in Madison Square Garden
[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]if anyone other than Kobe dropped that 61, there would not be any such fuss. It would just be high praise...and deservedly so.
Instead, we get all this, "well MJ blah blah blah"[/QUOTE]
Some of you guys help bring that on yourselves though... real talk. :confusedshrug:
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[QUOTE=MaxFly]Of the five, the Bulls lost to the Hawks, Celtics and Magic... two of which were in overtime, with the Celtics game having a second overtime... so they were very close...[/QUOTE]
Oh you're right. My bad. I didn't realize they lost to the Magic, I could've sworn they won that game. Oh well.
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Re: Kobe Bryant scores 61 points against Knicks in Madison Square Garden
[QUOTE=bleedinpurpleTwo]if anyone other than Kobe dropped that 61, there would not be any such fuss. It would just be high praise...and deservedly so.
Instead, we get all this, "well MJ blah blah blah"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MaxFly]Some of you guys help bring that on yourselves though... real talk. :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Right. Look at who the "MJ>Kobe" posts are replying to. It's not what GTS wrote (which I agree with) -- about how it's an entertaining performance that we should all just enjoy. It's the posts that say, "[I]Kobe scored 61. Oldest to score 60. Kobe > MJ. Kobe is GOAT[/I] :pimp: " that generate all the responses.
When you call out the dogs, don't get upset when you get bit. And for those that complain about the responses...why? Why do you care? Go to the Lakers forum where they are sure to appreciate it. Or don't click on the obvious "Kobe > MJ" or "MJ > Kobe" links. It's that simple.
I guarantee that if Arenas or Lebron or Ginobli scored 78 points and their fans said so-and-so > MJ, there would be some discussions. It's not just Kobe. Kobe fans just call out the dogs more than other fans.
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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AJodNs2p74[/url]
I wonder what the dumbasses in this thread would say about Larry shooting until the buzzer to get 60.
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[QUOTE=dajadeed][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AJodNs2p74[/url]
I wonder what the dumbasses in this thread would say about Larry shooting until the buzzer to get 60.[/QUOTE]
reposted.
[quote=Da_Realist]
I guarantee that if Arenas or Lebron or Ginobli scored 78 points and their fans said so-and-so > MJ, there would be some discussions. It's not just Kobe. Kobe fans just call out the dogs more than other fans.[/QUOTE]
Start a thread that says, "Bird > MJ", I guarantee there will be 300 responses by the end of the week. Look up any thread that does a comparison and you will have a ton of responses. Look up "Kobe > Bird" for instance.
The only reason Kobe generates more responses when he plays well is because his fans want to compare him more often than most other fans.
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[QUOTE=243354]kobe-5 60+ games in 4 1/2 seasons as the no.1
mj-5 in his whole career.:roll:[/QUOTE]
Uhh, Jordan had 4 of his 5 games of 60+ in a 4 year span also. What's your point?
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[QUOTE=Da_Realist]Tale of the tape.
[B][U]Michael Jordan[/U][/B]
April 20, 1986
63 vs Boston
Also had 5 rebs and 6 asts
Boston won 67 games in 86
Went on to become NBA Champions
[I]** Happened in the playoffs[/I]
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198703040DET.html"]March 4, 1987[/URL]
61 vs Detroit
He also had 7 rebs, 3 asts, 3 stls and 3 blks
Detroit won 52 games in 87
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198704160CHI.html"]April 16, 1987[/URL]
61 vs Atlanta
Also had 10 rebs, 1 ast, 4 stls and 1 blk
Atlanta won 57 games in 87
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199003280CLE.html"]March 28, 1990[/URL]
69 vs Cleveland
Also had 18 rebs, 6 asts, 4 stls and 1 blk
Cleveland won 42 games in 90
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199301160CHI.html"]January 16, 1993[/URL]
64 vs Orlando
Also had 6 rebs, 1 ast and 5 stls
Orlando won 41 games in 1993
[U][B]Kobe Bryant[/B][/U]
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200601220LAL.html"]January 22, 2006[/URL]
81 vs Toronto
Also had 6 rebs, 2 asts, 3 stls and 1 blk
Toronto won 27 games in 2006
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200703160LAL.html"]March 16, 2007[/URL]
65 vs Portland
Also had 7 rebs, 3 asts and 3 stls
Portland won 32 games in 2007
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200512200LAL.html"]December 20, 2005[/URL]
62 vs Dallas
Also had 8 rebs, 0 asts, 3 stls
Dallas won 60 games in 2006
Playoff team
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200703220MEM.html"]March 22, 2007[/URL]
60 vs Memphis
Also had 5 rebs and 4 asts
Memphis won 22 games in 2007
[URL="http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200902020NYK.html"]February 2, 2009[/URL]
61 vs New York
Also had 0 rebs, 3 asts and 1 blk
New York is 21-26 so far this season[/QUOTE]
You convinently failed to mention that the Mavericks weren't just a mere Playoff team, but competed for the NBA Finals that season, and were top ranked in team defense I believe that year. But that is without a doubt his best scoring game as a pro.
Everything else is dead on accurate.
The only other context you could bring into the conversation to make the playing field some what more leveled is by asking how many of those 60 point games came in overtime?
Kobe's only had one that came with an extra period, that being the Portland game. MJ, his Celtics performance, Magic performance, Cleveland performance all came with extra periods. So while yes, MJ is more impressive in that he did it in meaningful games, against stiff and/or great competition he also did it with extra time on the clock. Kobe, most of his performances coming against weak competition, still put up huge numbers in regulation, sometimes even sitting out huge chunks of time in said games. Kobe deserves some praise for that, does he not?
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[QUOTE=MaxFly] but if we're going to downplay accomplishments, one could easily point out that Jordan lost 3 of those 5 games in which he scored 60+ [/QUOTE]
Playing better teams will do that to you. The average record of teams which Kobe has scored 50+ on is something like 39-43. The average record of teams he's scored 40+ on in the last 4 seasons is even worse (like 37-45).
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Every time I think Kobe lost his outside shooting touch he goes off. Hope he goes for 100 one time.