Lakers trade Vladimir Radmanovic to Bobcats for Adam Morrison, Shannon Brown

[QUOTE=Corky McBiff]Sasha is better than Luke individually, but in the concept of the Triangle Offense.....Luke > Sasha. Also Ariza can slide over and play the 2 if needed.

Sasha just worked the Lakers (ala Vlad Rad and Luke) for a new deal. Now that he has long term security, he's gone back to SUCKING again. His basketball IQ is horrible and he can no longer hit thwe outside shot with consistency nor run the offense properly (the ball dies in his hands).

He serves NO purpose. Trade his overrated, over-paid ass away.[/QUOTE]
You want them traded away sooo bad? Ok Corky. Let's play GM.

You give me trade possiblities for Sasha, Luke, or Lamar.

Trades that both teams would do. Trades that would improve the Lakers, not only for the regular season but playoffs.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Corky McBiff]I'd only TRADE Lamar IF the right deal was in place (ie Amare). Either way, I seriously doubt that the Lakers will resign him this summer, unless Lamar accepts a huge paycut. Doc Buss is NOT going to have 4 huge contracts (Kobe, Gasol, Bynum + Odom) at once. Also keep in mind that Kobe will opt out and will demand and get a bigger deal as well.

Trade possibilities for Sasha and/or Luke? Probably NONE. Which NBA team is going to want their absurd contract for the next 4 years?

It doesn't mean that I can't pray or hope though.[/QUOTE]
Odom would take a paycut if LA won the title. The man already said he wants to be a Laker for life. If he gets a ring, why not come back to do it all over again. His FA value isn't exactly huge because there are better FAs out there and most teams will save 09 cap space for 2010.

As for Luke and Sasha, they're great roleplayers that help the team a lot. I wouldn't trade either unless it makes us a lot better. We had a bad SF contract with Radman, so at least he's gone.

[quote=Corky McBiff]IF Sasha + Luke are the "fabric" of this team, then they're in real trouble. :oldlol:[/quote]

you left out odom...

have you ever even played an organized sport before? your comments clearly demonstrate otherwise as you have no clue what makes a "team."



:pimp:

[QUOTE=konex]Why? His value is at an alltime low right now but he's better than Luke or Sasha who get a lot of PT on this team..[/QUOTE]
[B]BINGO my thoughts actually...[/B] Morris will enjoy being on the west coast especially as a laker.

eric pincus analysis of the trade:

Lakers: Another Clever Move from Mitch Kupchak

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The Los Angeles Lakers and Charlotte Bobcats made a dead weight for dead weight deal on Saturday that could serve both teams well - swapping Vladimir Radmanovic for Adam Morrison. The Lakers also receive 6'4" guard Shannon Brown who hadn't found a consistent role for Coach Larry Brown and the Bobcats.

Radmanovic had been overtaken by both Luke Walton and Trevor Ariza in the rotation. Even power forward Josh Powell had earned the backup role to Lamar Odom while center Andrew Bynum recovers from a knee injury. Despite the fact that Radmanovic shot 44.1% from three for the Lakers in 46 games, he struggled defensively and lacked any playmaking skills so valuable in the triangle.

Morrison had a high scoring rookie campaign but blew out his knee before last year, ironically in a preseason game at STAPLES Center against the Lakers. A renowned shooter in college, Morrison has struggled to adapt to the NBA game - hitting just 37.3% from the field over his career.

More irony, the Bobcats were especially desperate at small forward after Andrew Bynum's flagrant foul on Gerald Wallace led to a partially collapsed lung and broken ribs. Wallace hopes to return after the All-Star break but even with Gerald, Charlotte had been struggling for depth.

As the saying goes, one man's trash is another's treasure - Radmanovic has the potential to step in as a starter and contribute immediately for Charlotte. The Bobcats may be 13th in the Eastern Conference but they're only 3 1/2 games behind the badly injured Milwaukee Bucks.

Equally, Morrison may find the triangle offense to be similar to what he ran with Gonzaga. Anything LA gets out of Adam would be a bonus . . .

Whether or not Morrison becomes a contributor for the Lakers at all, General Manager Mitch Kupchak once again made a clever move. Radmanovic is under contract for $13.4 million over the next two seasons. Technically he has an early termination option before the 2010 season, but Kupchak couldn't count on Vlade to exercise it.

Since LA is expected to be over the luxury tax threshold for the next couple of years - from one perspective Radmanovic was costing the Lakers $12-$13.7 million a year with minimal production.

Morrison will make $5.3 million next year in the final year of his contract after which he would become a restricted free agent (unless he and the Lakers agree to an extension next summer).

Shannon Brown is an athletic guard who isn't necessarily a great shooter or passer. He has some ability defensively. Perhaps he could be a more defensive-minded Mo Evans (now with the Atlanta Hawks) although it may be difficult for Brown to earn playing time. He's earning the league minimum for a player with two-year's experience at $797,581, expiring after this season.

Kupchak saved the Lakers about $2.2 million in salary (including taxes) this year, $2.4 million for 2009/10 and potentially $13.8 million for 2010/11.

The extra expense will be worthwhile for the Bobcats if Radmanovic can help them make the playoffs for the first time in franchise history. He may not have fit with the Lakers but he's still one of the league's best shooters.

Radmanovic was one of the most charitable Lakers, regularly holding events and fundraisers to help those in need. He was crushed when Coach Phil Jackson demoted him to the bench and while a championship run may be further way for the Bobcats, the move may ultimately be a positive for his career.

While the Lakers reduce their total salary next season, there remains tremendous pressure on Kupchak to keep payroll to a reasonable number. Recently the Phoenix Suns have shopped big men Amar'e Stoudemire and Shaquille O'Neal around the league. Sources say the Lakers had some rudimentary discussions with the Suns but that there isn't much common ground between the two organizations.

Assuming star Kobe Bryant opts out of his contract after the season and re-signs for $22.3 million in the first year and that the Lakers give small forward Trevor Ariza a contract similar to guard Sasha Vujacic ($5 million a season), LA will be committed roughly $91 million in salaries.

If the team decides that retaining Lamar Odom is the right move and he is willing to sign for a starting salary of $7 million a season, the Lakers would be on hook for about $105 million. That's $5 million over the rumored budget as is - the Lakers would be reluctant at that point to spend their Mid-Level Exception (even though players like Ron Artest, Rasheed Wallace, Jason Kidd and Andre Miller may be available. Note that there are very few teams slotted to have cap room this summer).

Now picture an Odom for Shaquille O'Neal trade - that would bump LA's salary to around $133 million next season. Amar'e may be slightly cheaper, but $121 million is still more than Dr. Buss is willing to pay. Lamar Odom may have his flaws but he's a better defender at this point than both O'Neal and Stoudemire.

It might sound interesting in theory but in this economy, even the Lakers can't be expected to dole out an extra $15-30 million when they may already have the best team in the league.

Finally, LA could technically trade out Morrison should they find a taker but they can't package his salary with another Laker. Perhaps sending Morrison for an expiring contract could either make Odom more afforable or expendable. It's notable but unlikely.

Phil's unhealthy obsession with Luke Walton ended up getting Radman traded. I swear sometimes I think he's dating him or something. WTF Phil. Vlad is a better ball player in almost all facets than Walton, yet he's the one who's traded. A valentine's day present for your boyfriend, eh Phil? :mad:

Eh. I'm just mad because I like Vlad as a person. He was a terrific guy and did a lot for LA in terms of charities and such, and everyone in the locker room liked him. He wouldn't be so expendable if he wasnt such a moron in terms of ball IQ. I'd still rather keep him than Luke "useless" Walton.

What exactly was the point of this? To get Shannon Brown? Because as far as I can tell, AMMO does the same thing as Radmanovic, just not as well. Plus he's pretty skinny and immobile. I just don't get it :confusedshrug:

sorry to see vlad go and i wish him the best in charlotte. great shooter but it's not something the team is short on. he just wasn't able to do a whole lot of anything else for the amount he was being paid. he was turnover prone, never played any defense. i don't know what to make of morrison but i don't think it's the right time to throw someone head first into the scheme and chemistry of things. this was a good unload/receive though.

the last time la acquired MJ's mistake, they turned him into Gasol. Maybe Stache will be traded for Rudy Gay soon lol

I like this trade for LA. Morrison still has potential and was a pretty good scorer in college. Now all LA needs him to do is hit open shots and hustle on defense. If it didnt work, its ok since LA saves some money and he'll still be easier to trade than vlad.

Brown has the tools but just cant put it all together. he can create his own shot, good first step, strong, good wingspan. lets see if he can get some pt

From Mitch Kup...


Overall, the deal will save the Lakers more than $8 million in salary cap space over the next two seasons.

"We feel we picked up two players that could have upside," Lakers General Manager Mitch Kupchak said. "We pick up some flexibility down the road with a shorter commitment vs. Vlade's commitment."

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[QUOTE=Showtime]*cue Morrison's overrating*[/QUOTE]
Won't be the first time. After he was drafted, there were actually people on this board who swore that Morrison's career would be comparable to Allan Houston's. :eek:

they was just lonely on the bench and heard that adam morrison and shannon brown has a bunch of new jokes. also i heard shannon brown is good at giving gatoraid to stars if the water boy is slacking.

How come Lakers fans think there's gonna be another trade? :confusedshrug:

FYI: (in case you were wondering as to whether they would be available tomorrow against the Cavs).

Both Morrison and Brown have to pass physicals before playing for the Lakers, and neither will be with the team on Sunday in Cleveland. Instead, both players will fly to Los Angeles to take their physicals on Sunday and are expected to practice with the Lakers on Monday.

At his best he'll look like Reggie in his final season in the NBA. Not bad still.

[QUOTE=GiveItToBurrito]What exactly was the point of this? To get Shannon Brown? Because as far as I can tell, AMMO does the same thing as Radmanovic, just not as well. Plus he's pretty skinny and immobile. I just don't get it :confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
strictly a salary dump.. vlad rad was sitting on the bench... this way they get two guys to sit on the bench for less, and their contracts run out sooner

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]Adam has more potential than people give him credit for. I watched him drop about 30 early in his career. He wont be a superstar but I wont be suprised if hes a 15-16ppg type on poor shooting. Make some clutch plays here and there. Biger less crazy Vernon Maxwell.[/QUOTE]
Vernon Maxwell?

What an odd comparison, can't say I agree with it either.

This will be a nice trade for the Lakers if Morrison can live up to his potential.

[QUOTE=nbastatus]oh god!
i guess adam will be overrated soon.[/QUOTE]

:roll: fan of this guy's posts.

the bobcats are priceless fodder.

first they trade a lottery pick for jason richardson when they were nowhere near ready to contend, and richardson had 4 years at 11 million per left.

then joe dumars fleeces them into giving him expiring deals in exchange for nazr muhammeds contract with 4 years left and a total of 20 mill.

now they just added vladamir radmonovich and agreed to pay him for 3 more years at 6 million a pop?


honestly, teams really must love getting payback on MJ for all the times he tortured them as a player. i dont know which performance is more dominating, him as a basketball player or what other executives do to him as a GM. its unreal.

I like this move alot! Vlad was obviously on Phil's sh*t list and hasnt played much at all the last month or so. When he has, hes been crap. Hes slow and cant defend well and when hes not hitting a 3, hes of no use to anyone.

I think saying Morrison and Brown wont do much for us is quite ridiculous. First of all, we dont need them to be all stars, just role players. Second, these guys should play with MUCH more motivation on a 40-9 team poised to win a championship than a 19-30 team that has been going nowhere for years. I also like that it frees up some cap space. Win/win if you ask me.

No more Space Cadet? Boooooo!

I really admired his game, and that elegant posture he always had on the bench.

Ok Adam as a player on the court I think he is rubbish and garbage, but as a player off the court I really think he has a championship mentality, something Radmonovic didn't, Morrison could be like our Mark Madsen, goofy white guy who cares so much about winning but sucks on the court, but occassionally does something good and the crowd goes crazy, I just home Phil gets him to shave his head and stache, Sasha is embarrassment enough for us, two guys like that is shameful. Shannon Brown is good I just hope Morrison doesn't see much minutes outside of garbage time but his attitude could be good to have in the locker room and off the bench, that's the kind of guys we need

Don't sleep on Shannon Brown. Think Maurice Evans with more coordination and build. Instant energy.


Morrison Wiki

Adam John Morrison (born July 19, 1984, in Glendive, Montana) is an American professional basketball player with the Los Angeles Lakers of the National Basketball Association.

Morrison played for three years at Gonzaga University and was considered to be one of the top college basketball players in 2005

Can't wait to see Morrison and Kobe crying together when they lose a playoff round.

Can't wait to see Morrison and Kobe crying together when they lose a playoff round.

corny...:rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Meticode]This will be a nice trade for the Lakers if Morrison can live up to his potential.[/QUOTE]

If we thought that he could live up to his potential then we probably wouldn't have traded him because we need good backups for Gerald Wallace at the wing. Ammo could have/should have/would have filled that spot if he'd been able to overcome his paralysis on the court. If he couldn't flourish on our team and in our market then what will happen to him in Los Angeles? He'll be overwhelmed and run over. I left L.A. for North Carolina and he's leaving North Carolina for L.A. Sorry folks but I worry for him.

[QUOTE=gts]strictly a salary dump.. vlad rad was sitting on the bench... this way they get two guys to sit on the bench for less, and their contracts run out sooner[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you're most likely right. It's crazy to think of a championship caliber team dumping salaries, though. I mean, it's not like they got rid of Odom or something, but it's still weird to think that they would make a move that wouldn't make them better.

[QUOTE=211269]I like this move alot! Vlad was obviously on Phil's sh*t list and hasnt played much at all the last month or so. When he has, hes been crap. Hes slow and cant defend well and when hes not hitting a 3, hes of no use to anyone.

I think saying Morrison and Brown wont do much for us is quite ridiculous. First of all, we dont need them to be all stars, just role players. Second, these guys should play with MUCH more motivation on a 40-9 team poised to win a championship than a 19-30 team that has been going nowhere for years. I also like that it frees up some cap space. Win/win if you ask me.[/QUOTE]

Vlady hasn't played that poorly this season. He's still guaranteed to give you 1-2 WTF moments but he had improved defensively this season (at least from last season) and his shot was falling when he was getting consistent minutes. Luke Walton just fits the Lakers better.

I think the triangle offense limited what Vlady could do and that he would've produced more on a different team. We'll see.

Someone mentioned Morrison's hair and Sashas earlier - Morrison shaved the long hair earlier this year - still has the stache, but much more presentable.

Someone else, referring to how the Lakers should have cancelled Radmonovich's contract after the snow boarding incident asked about Jason William's contract situation with the Bulls following his motorcycle incident - fortunately for JWill, the Bulls organization recognized that his injuries were most likely career-ending and they paid him his full rookie contract.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]Adam has more potential than people give him credit for. I watched him drop about 30 early in his career. He wont be a superstar but I wont be suprised if hes a 15-16ppg type on poor shooting. Make some clutch plays here and there. Biger less crazy Vernon Maxwell.[/QUOTE]

Wayyyyyyyyyy off :oldlol:

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]Wayyyyyyyyyy off :oldlol:[/QUOTE]

he said he wont be surprised. do you even read f[B]u[/B]ckface?

[QUOTE=dgaras]he said he wont be surprised. do you even read f[B]u[/B]ckface?[/QUOTE]

Is the foul language necessary to get your point across?

Lakers won 2 rings with Brown playing well as backup guard. Radmanovic was never that good. Morrison was a risk and didnt work out. ok trade for the Lakers.

[QUOTE=L.A. Jazz]Morrison was a risk and didnt work out. [/QUOTE]

He gave us great moments:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGsDnCevjs0&hd=1&ab_channel=igicles3[/url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pMcXSixdVQ&ab_channel=HighRPMTV&hd=1[/url]

LOL

Lakers won 2 championship with Morrison on the team. Since he left, the Lakers haven't done anything