[QUOTE=zay_24]So a troll is someone who thinks kobe is better than lebron?[/QUOTE]
Once again, how old are you?
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[QUOTE=zay_24]So a troll is someone who thinks kobe is better than lebron?[/QUOTE]
Once again, how old are you?
[QUOTE=2LeTTeRS]You do realize that just because you claim I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong right? If Eric Snow, Damon Jones, Luke Jackson, and Ira Newble are still in the league, what teams they play for? And then you have Donyell Marshall and Devin Brown who get less than 15 mins a game, and Drew Gooden and Larry Hughes who both have already been traded again in the season since leaving Cleveland.
I don't even know why I'm going back and forth with a known troll. Have you found that month where Bynum put up 22 and 13 yet?[/QUOTE]
I don't even know why I'm discussing someone who said Oden has a better footwork and post game than Bynum and I called you out on it and you denied it while I provided the link. Liar and a troll.
[QUOTE=Kobe24]I don't even know why I'm discussing someone who said Oden has a better footwork and post game than Bynum and I called you out on it and you denied it while I provided the link. Liar and a troll.[/QUOTE]
Ok lets let the board decide.....who thinks I'ma troll and who thinks Kobe24 is? Responses will be appreciated, and repped no matter who you chose.
[quote=2LeTTeRS]Ok lets let the board decide.....who thinks I'ma troll and who thinks Kobe24 is? Responses will be appreciated, and repped no matter who you chose.[/quote]
Kobe24 is a known troll...
He has even been banned on numerous occasions.
[QUOTE=2LeTTeRS]Ok lets let the board decide.....who thinks I'ma troll and who thinks Kobe24 is? Responses will be appreciated, and repped no matter who you chose.[/QUOTE]
Board hates me. I don't really care. You're a troll. Anybody with half a brain knows you lack any real basketball intelligence. It's not your fault, you're from Carolina. Look at you saying you'll rep for responses. Ultimate troll. Jeff needs to ban you to further improve this board.
[QUOTE=Kobe24]Board hates me. I don't really care. You're a troll. Anybody with half a brain knows you lack any real basketball intelligence. It's not your fault, you're from Carolina. Look at you saying you'll rep for responses. Ultimate troll. Jeff needs to ban you to further improve this board.[/QUOTE]
Forget it then, you already know what the board thinks of you so you're searching for an excuse. Get the f[SIZE="2"]uc[/SIZE]k outta here. I'm done with you, I'm going to go enjoy the end of the Bobcats game in peace.
[quote=Kobe24]Board hates me. I don't really care. You're a troll. Anybody with half a brain knows you lack any real basketball intelligence. It's not your fault, you're from Carolina. Look at you saying you'll rep for responses. Ultimate troll. [SIZE=6][B]Jeff needs to ban you to further improve this board[/B][/SIZE].[/quote]
Well seeing as how he has banned you several times :oldlol:
[QUOTE=Kobe24]Seriously one of the worst posts that I've ever seen. Guess what? All those players on the Cavs rosters are STILL in the league. 5 players on the Lakers 05-06 rosters aren't even on any squad. Bynum was a rookie. Didn't play. Brian Cook is still in the league getting..0 mins a game. Mihm? Got traded for a f*cking pick. Walton? Vujacic? Odom?Yet you're gonna sit here and act like the Cavs roster is equal. Seriously... you've been wrong so MANY times discussing sh!t with me that you should probably take a step back and take the L.[/QUOTE]
Ira Newble : Out of the league.
Eric Snow : Has already played his last game.
Larry Hughes : Even D'Antoni can't make him look good. Even got several DNP-CDs in Chicago.
Damon Jones : Can't even get PT on a horrible Bucks team.
Donyell Marshall : Barely gets any PT on a mediocre 76ers team.
Drew Gooden : The Cavs weren't even interested in signing him once he got bought out by the Kings.
Devin Brown : Barely plays in New Orleans, and his numbers are atrocious.
Yeah, LeBron has been playing with a f*cking All-Star team all those years :hammerhead:
And yet he still carried them to the Finals while being younger than most rookies in the league.
i hate him cause hes from philly but to stuck up to like this blue collar town.
[QUOTE=Styles p]i hate him cause hes from philly but to stuck up to like this blue collar town.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Kobe is a huge Eagles fan, and loves to talk to reporters about them.
:rolleyes:
[url]http://www.nbclosangeles.com/sports/football/Kobe-Bryant-One-Happy-Eagles-Fan.html[/url]
[QUOTE=rox fa sho]no you silly aholes, people hate kobe cuz he's bigger than them, at the same time faster than them, at the same time better than them, at the same time richer than them, [B]and he's black[/B].[/QUOTE]
I think you nailed it! Everyone who doesnt eat Kobes baby batter pancakes must be racist. I grew up around and became friends with pretty much every race imaginable in my youth and am still friends to this day with many of them...Glad you pointed out my closet hatred for black people before I slipped and mentioned to them that I dont like Kobe, then they might have pinned me as a racist before I even knew. Actually I work with a black dude who hates Kobe...He must be an Uncle Tom right?
[QUOTE=andgar923]I hate Kobe's selfishness
I hate his immaturity
I hate that he feels privileged/entitled
I hate that he's a *****
I hate that he's very fake
I hate that he tries to hard
The rape accusation doesn't affect me whatsoever.
The Lakers breaking up is multi faceted and many people can get blamed, but I do believe that Kobe is the biggest culprit.
He being a bad teammate wouldn't bother me. But he throws his teammates under the bus way to often, he puts the blame on others and makes a bunch of excuses, not only for his failures but for future possible failures.
As far as his fans are concerned.....
I try to separate them from him, but somehow I think they're an extension of him. It may be a wrong assumption, but oh well.
But anyway.... there are no words that can explain how I HATE his "stans" (fans are different than stans).
I don't hate Kobe the "person" as much as I hate the player. There are traits of Kobe the "person" that I dislike, and while he might be a good guy, he's what we call a *****. You can be cool with him, but you can't really trust him.
I think he brings alot of this hate onto himself.
And for those that say.... "Well Mj was like this... or like that"
MJ EARNED the right to have the double standards bestowed upon him.... PERIOD![/QUOTE]
Jordan was selfish like Kobe early in his career. Both players grew out of it.
Immaturity? Jordan asked for his stats at the end of quarters in the first part of his career.
Privleged/entitled? Jordan waved off as many screens as Kobe did. He tried to be a one man show.
Hate that he's fake? Can someone explain to me how Jordan is not fake compared to Kobe? What did he do in particular that made him less fake?
He tries to hard? All I can say is :rolleyes:
I don't hate Jordan, or like Kobe better then Jordan, but I don't get how you can apply one logic to Kobe but not Jordan.
[QUOTE=Mikaiel]Ira Newble : Out of the league.
Eric Snow : Has already played his last game.
Larry Hughes : Even D'Antoni can't make him look good. Even got several DNP-CDs in Chicago.
Damon Jones : Can't even get PT on a horrible Bucks team.
Donyell Marshall : Barely gets any PT on a mediocre 76ers team.
Drew Gooden : The Cavs weren't even interested in signing him once he got bought out by the Kings.
Devin Brown : Barely plays in New Orleans, and his numbers are atrocious.
Yeah, LeBron has been playing with a f*cking All-Star team all those years :hammerhead:
[B]And yet he still carried them to the Finals while being younger than most rookies in the league[/B].[/QUOTE]
He didn't carry anything. It was a team effort.
He had the best rebounding team in the league. He had Big Z drawing out players from the paint and opening it up. He also had good spot up shooters.
You're just another Lebron fan who claims to be a Cavs supporter. Whenever I am reading the game threads its always this supporting cast player made a mistake, etc. Though when Bron makes a mistake, its "the Cavs were bad on that play".
Hughes averaged 15, 4 and 4. Since when is that horrible?
Gooden averaged 11 and 9. That's better then a guy like Haslem.
Pavlovic shot 41% from downtown and averaged 9 ppg. That is a top shooter in the league.
Andy is one of the best defensive fowards out there.
Damon Jones was still able to shoot 39% from 3 point land despite being horrible according to you.
[QUOTE=plowking]Jordan was selfish like Kobe early in his career. Both players grew out of it.
[B][COLOR="Red"]Please explain how MJ was as selfish as Kobe? Please compare and contrast?[/COLOR][/B]
Immaturity? Jordan asked for his stats at the end of quarters in the first part of his career.
[B][COLOR="Red"]How is that "immature?"[/COLOR][/B]
Privleged/entitled? Jordan waved off as many screens as Kobe did. He tried to be a one man show.
[B][COLOR="Red"]Funny.... I've seen many Mj games and I don't believe I've seen him wave off a screen let alone one as a 2nd year player, let alone one from one of the greatest power forwards of all time.[/COLOR][/B]
Hate that he's fake? Can someone explain to me how Jordan is not fake compared to Kobe? What did he do in particular that made him less fake?
[B][COLOR="Red"]LOOOLLL you can't be serious. I know MJ had a public persona that was different than his private life, but that's not what I mean. I also understand that they have to say the right things for the sake of the league, team and sponsors. But do you remember the Shaq feud? the Phil feud? him throwing his teammates under the bus?[/COLOR][/B]
He tries to hard? All I can say is :rolleyes:
[B][COLOR="Red"]
What's so hard to understand? He tries to hard, its that simple. He forces shots, he tries hard to fit in, tries hard to do the spectacular.[/COLOR][/B]
I don't hate Jordan, or like Kobe better then Jordan, but I don't get how you can apply one logic to Kobe but not Jordan.[/QUOTE]
And like I mentioned.... MJ gets a pass because well.........
HE'S EARNED IT!!!!
Its like if Ariza shows up late for practice, he'll get fined but Kobe won't.
Why? because Kobe has earned that right.
If Sasha takes a bad shot he gets benched, but Kobe can take that same shot 3 times in a row and won't.
Why? because Kobe has earned that right.
There are double standards and those double standards exist for a reason.
And MJ has earned the right to have double standards, its that simple.
[QUOTE=plowking]He didn't carry anything. It was a team effort.
He had the best rebounding team in the league. He had Big Z drawing out players from the paint and opening it up. He also had good spot up shooters. [/quote]
He didn't carry them? Seriously? Wow man that Cavs team was the least talented bunch to make the Finals since the AI-led Sixers. I'll take the cast Wade his this year over any one that LeBron has had before this year.
[QUOTE=plowking]You're just another Lebron fan who claims to be a Cavs supporter. Whenever I am reading the game threads its always this supporting cast player made a mistake, etc. Though when Bron makes a mistake, its "the Cavs were bad on that play".[/quote]
I haven't seen anybody consistenly speak poorly of Mo Williams, Z or Delonte, and Bron is regularly criticized for settling for jumpers or not posting up smaller defenders. When I see you in game threads all I ever see you do is ***** about foul calls just like Kobe24.
[QUOTE=plowking]Hughes averaged 15, 4 and 4. Since when is that horrible?[/quote]
Hughes averaged 15 points shooting 40% from the field. Do you really want to argue that thats decent for a 2nd option who got as many open shots as he did?
[QUOTE=plowking]Gooden averaged 11 and 9. That's better then a guy like Haslem.[/quote]
Gooden is not better than Haslem. He's talented but he's a knucklehead who makes more mental mistakes than any player in the league. Why do you think he is now on his 6th team in 7 seasons?
[QUOTE=plowking]Pavlovic shot 41% from downtown and averaged 9 ppg. That is a top shooter in the league.[/quote]
Pavlovic is a 1 dimensional player who does nothing well but shoot and can't even create his own shot, as well as being streaky as hell. He is nowhere near a top shooter in the leauge
[QUOTE=plowking]Andy is one of the best defensive fowards out there.[/quote]
Yes, but what else does he bring to the court?
[QUOTE=plowking]Damon Jones was still able to shoot 39% from 3 point land despite being horrible according to you.[/QUOTE]
See Pavlovic
[QUOTE=plowking]He didn't carry anything. It was a team effort.[/QUOTE]
Yeah of course, but who was the best player on that squad ? LeBron. Was it close ? No.
[QUOTE]
Hughes averaged 15, 4 and 4. Since when is that horrible?[/QUOTE]
You forgot to mention his horrible FG%, his stupid shot selection and his inability to stay healthy. His stupid contract also made things a lot worse.
[QUOTE]Gooden averaged 11 and 9. That's better then a guy like Haslem.[/QUOTE]
Gooden is one of the stupidest players in the league. I'd take Haslem over Gooden any day of the week. At least Haslem can be on the floor during crunch time, you know he's reliable and he's not gonna f*ck things up. You can't say the same about Gooden.
[QUOTE]Pavlovic shot 41% from downtown and averaged 9 ppg. That is a top shooter in the league.[/QUOTE]
And his defense was good, sometimes great too. But he shouldn't be the starting SG for a Finals team. Just look at the other SGs who went to the Finals the last few years : Kobe, Ray Allen, Pavlovic, Ginobili, Wade, Stackhouse, Rip Hamilton. Please don't tell me Pavlovic is on the same level as those guys ... He can't even create his own shot (well he can, but he's such a horrible finisher it's really not a good idea). He's a great guy to have off the bench. But he's no starter material, especially on a team with big goals.
[QUOTE]Andy is one of the best defensive fowards out there.[/QUOTE]
True
[QUOTE]Damon Jones was still able to shoot 39% from 3 point land despite being horrible according to you.[/QUOTE]
That's basically all he did. He just stood behind the 3 point line waiting for a pass because that's all he's capable of. He can't create for himself or for his teammates. He got abused on D on a regular basis. If it wasn't for his shooting ability he would have never made the league. And now less than 2 years later he can't get PT on a mediocre Bucks team.
And I'm not always on LeBron's nuts, sorry. When he does something stupid I say it. I've already complained about his sometimes stupid shot selection or his lack of agressiveness.
[QUOTE=Manute for Ever!]
[URL="http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/green_room/2008/06/i_hate_kobe_so.html"]http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/green_room/2008/06/i_hate_kobe_so.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
This is the greatest basketball article ever written. The guy should win a Nobel prize.
[QUOTE=godofgods]This is the greatest basketball article ever written. The guy should win a Nobel prize.[/QUOTE]
agree
[QUOTE=Stringer Bell]My guess is that she willingly gave it up, but then she started getting mad when he was getting too rough and wanted to bust on her face, and told him to stop. He claims he stopped right away when she told him to stop, but I think he kept banging her. The question is for how long. A long time, or just a few seconds?
[b]He didn't even know about pre-ejaculatory semen[/b]. :oldlol:
[url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0924041kobea14.html[/url][/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0924041kobea14.gif[/img]
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Did he mean are you kidding me like are you seriously asking me this question, do you think I'm stupid... or did he mean are you kidding me i didn't know..
[QUOTE=LA_Showtime]Did he mean are you kidding me like are you seriously asking me this question, do you think I'm stupid... [b]or did he mean are you kidding me i didn't know[/b]..[/QUOTE]
The latter:lol
I never read/payed attention to any of the stuff in that case but after reading some of that transcript, it makes it even easier to hate on KObe:oldlol:
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[QUOTE=Diesel J]The latter:lol
I never read/payed attention to any of the stuff in that case but after reading some of that transcript, it makes it even easier to hate on KObe:oldlol:
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I don't know why that makes you dislike Kobe even more. Any professional athlete, especially one who was as popular as Kobe would want it to remain on the downlow. Especially if it was false accusations (which we have to assume, since he was not guilty). I don't know Kobe the person, so I try not to judge whether or not I like him based on his personality. All I know is he works very hard to be the best basketball player he can be and he's sacraficed a lot for the Lakers. He has a lot of flaws, but overall I appreciate what he's brought since coming to the Lakers.
Who cares why haters hate????
As Katt Williams said "we need haters, keep hatin haters"
How is a article GREAT because it explains what a "HATER" thinks???? :confusedshrug:
Haters hate because it's their job. No matter what the excuse for hating is, the bottom line is the person is still a HATER...
And sorry I don't have a lot of respect for, or for that matter care what ANY hater thinks.
Regardless of what they are hating on...
[quote=Diesel J][IMG]http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0924041kobea14.gif[/IMG]
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Dude step away from your computer and go out into the real world for awhile.
Seriously, if #1 you have this saved to your computer you need a life, and #2 if you took the time to look this up to post you REALLY need to get a life.
Try talking to some females/males whatever floats your boat, but please GET A LIFE.
As a Lakers fan, there are times when Ive disliked, and still to this day, believe he has a bad attitude about a lot of things in general. I think his maturity level is questionable, and I believe its how he has been raised. Silver spoon up his rear for most of his life...etc etc...whatever.
He has a crummy attitude, and thats it.
Do I hate him because of that? I dont know the man personally, so no. I enjoy watching him play ball. That is the jist of my feelings on Kobe. I dig watching the man play, and hes very good at his job.
Some of you need to look in the mirror and question how you could hate someone, that has no weight in your life, with so much enthusiasm.
Some of you bring up all of these silly reasons, and what not...and you get outrageous with your hatred at times. Honestly, you need therapy, or something, because deep down, do you not enjoy watching Kobe play ball?
Thats all these men are....athletes here to entertain us, with the game of basketball. Period.
So, relax, and just stop caring so much about their personality traits, and quirks. Who cares?
[QUOTE=oh the horror]
Thats all these men are....athletes here to entertain us, with the game of basketball. Period.
So, relax, and just stop caring so much about their personality traits, and quirks. Who cares?[/QUOTE]
:applause:
Agreed. Are some of the people here grown men crying about a basketball player? If so, wow.
this is my fav quote from the article:
[CENTER][I]What about what happened in Colorado? Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot we no longer are allowed to speak about that. That's tucked under the rug. [/I]
[I]Was Bryant remorseful? Sure, don't you remember he bought his wife a trillion dollar diamond ring and dragged her to the press conference?
[/I]
[I]This guy makes Bill Clinton look like Ward Cleaver in the husband department. Yet, when he was coming back from the trial to play in the games that night, announcers and members of the media acted like he was a hero! That's unforgivable. Why does nobody talk about this? Never mind. You don't have to answer that one, it probably won't make it past my editor. [/I]
[/CENTER]
people have short memories and
dont like to talk about [B]rape[/B]; this is the main reason why i hate kobe
[QUOTE=Laker4Lyfe]Dude step away from your computer and go out into the real world for awhile.
Seriously, if #1 you have this saved to your computer you need a life, and #2 if you took the time to look this up to post you REALLY need to get a life.
Try talking to some females/males whatever floats your boat, but please GET A LIFE.[/QUOTE]
You are aware someone else posted the link. Think before you open your mouth moron.
[quote=zabuza666][B]You are aware someone else posted the link.[/B] Think before you open your mouth moron.[/quote]
Actually no I didn't know that. Assuming you are asking a question, since there is no question mark. I dont have time to read 10 pages of bs.
So maybe you should think of that before you call someone names next time?
Nope, no one has a short memory.
He was not convicted of rape. Didnt she take the money, and basically dropped it?
We all went ON with our lives.
I looooooooooove how people consider this man a ******, even though he was not convicted of this crime in a court of law.
Gotta love humanity, you're basically guilty, until proven innocent.
Again, who cares how HE, and HIS WIFE handle their own business? She took him back, and thats that.
The fact that some of you bring up sh*t like that, is amazing.
[QUOTE=RainierBeachPoet]
people have short memories and
dont like to talk about [B]rape[/B]; this is the main reason why i hate kobe[/QUOTE]reason or excuse?
[quote=gts]reason or excuse?[/quote]
yes
[QUOTE=RainierBeachPoet]yes[/QUOTE]
He didn't rape her.
Your point is invalid.
[QUOTE=oh the horror]Nope, no one has a short memory.
He was not convicted of rape. Didnt she take the money, and basically dropped it?
We all went ON with our lives.
I looooooooooove how people consider this man a ******, even though he was not convicted of this crime in a court of law.
Gotta love humanity, you're basically guilty, until proven innocent.
Again, who cares how HE, and HIS WIFE handle their own business? She took him back, and thats that.
The fact that some of you bring up sh*t like that, is amazing.[/QUOTE]
I agree but people are going to think whatever they want and nobody can change that. I personally don't believe he raped her he just had incredibly bad judgment that night(to put it mildly).
[QUOTE=loot]and this:
[IMG]http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nba_experts__21/ept_sports_nba_experts-771982461-1237514784.jpg?ymg4I.ADttwv.Tpl[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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[quote=plowking]He didn't rape her.
Your point is invalid.[/quote]
and OJ didnt do it either-- yeah, i know:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Laker4Lyfe]Dude step away from your computer and go out into the real world for awhile.
[b]Seriously, if #1 you have this saved to your computer you need a life, and #2 if you took the time to look this up to post you REALLY need to get a life. [/b]
Try talking to some females/males whatever floats your boat, but please GET A LIFE.[/QUOTE]
LOL @ this Kobe stan coming to the defense of his idol. For one, I didn't save or look anything up, dude a few pages back posted the link to that. That was my first time even seeing/reading that.
[quote=Diesel J]LOL @ this [B]Kobe stan[/B] coming to the defense of [B]his[/B] idol. For one, I didn't save or look anything up, dude a few pages back posted the link to that. That was my first time even seeing/reading that.[/quote]
First off I am a LAKERS fan, not a "anybody stan" and I'm not coming to the defense of anyone. Where did I defend Kobe or anyone else for that matter???
Find a thread with a post of me praising Kobe, I DARE YOU.
This thread is praising and trying to justify as well as give validity to a "hater" and I think that's dumb plain and simple.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7z_ztMxBgk&feature=PlayList&p=2BDFF2695F3E22F8&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=25"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7z_ztMxBgk&feature=PlayList&p=2BDFF2695F3E22F8&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=25[/URL]
I'm sure it's a hard concept for you to understand, but some people like basketball and cheer for their TEAM not individuals on the team.
And someone already pointed out that someone other than you posted the link, and I acknowledged that I didn't see it so........ whatever. :confusedshrug:
And by the way that should say "her" not "his".