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[QUOTE=~primetime~][B]WHAT DID YOU EXPECT DUDE!!![/B]
THIS:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Xp1r5-4EQ&feature=related[/url]
ridiculous...:banghead:[/QUOTE]
I am not expecting to see the hard foul but Wright wasn't doing his right job. He's confused & he knew it, he messed up. He hasn't been in that situation in the playoff experience.
I agreed with Barkley, Kenny Smith talked about they rather to see refs didn't call it when comes to a close game with few secs left and it's not refs game, it's player games...i want to see the playesr made the smart choice, smart play, etc instead complaining & b*itching at refs If refs call the foul....it's not fun to me and big let down.
If Melo didnt make it the shot and that was supposed to be a fou butl...I still rather refs not to call that.
Refs were doing right thing when camae to a close game. ITS A ****ING PLAYOFFF@
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Dude...Rick Carlisla really shouldve known better to put an Aggie in charge of a vital moment in the game.
Seriously...Aggies have never been good at anything in the past 10 years in anything sports related.
Except DeAndre Jordan. And Martellus Bennet.
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[QUOTE=OneMoreSucka]A simple wrap up around his arms would do...[/QUOTE]
No kidding. Why are people suddenly acting like they forgot what a good intentional foul was?
[I]"WELL HE COULDNT TACKLE HIM!"[/I]
Uh....what?
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Who cares? :oldlol:
I wanted the Nuggets to win anyways.
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Ive been watching the video over and over...not ONLY did he commit a lame soft foul, but when Carmelo passed him, he threw his hands up as if there was no contact, and then when the shot was made, he THEN contested the call, or no call?
Dude ****ed up, period.
When they say foul, you FOUL.
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It would be funny if this shifts the karma/pisses off the Mavs so much that they somehow come back from down 0-3, whereas if the foul had been called and they won game 3, they probably still would've lost the series in 5 or 6 games.
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[QUOTE=~primetime~]look dude...the NBA came forward and admitted they made a mistake...
EVEN THEY ARE SAYING I AM RIGHT!!!
and it isn't 3-0
[B]it is 3-0*[/B][/QUOTE]
no, it's 3-0
look it up, the NBA says I'm right!!!
:cry:
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[QUOTE=Soundwave]It would be funny if this shifts the karma/pisses off the Mavs so much that they somehow come back from down 0-3, whereas if the foul had been called and they won game 3, they probably still would've lost the series in 5 or 6 games.[/QUOTE]
Mavs dont have big enough balls for that one to happen, but it would be insane.
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[QUOTE=Soundwave]It would be funny if this shifts the karma/pisses off the Mavs so much that they somehow come back from down 0-3, whereas if the foul had been called and they won game 3, they probably still would've lost the series in 5 or 6 games.[/QUOTE]
They're not called THE HULKS, it doesn't matter how pissed off they get. Series over. Where's all those cocky Mavs fans that started the thread "We Own the Nuggets" or whatever, hahahaha, lookin' GOOD fellas'. Perhaps a little humility next time.
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[QUOTE=asu77golf] Where's all those cocky Mavs fans that started the thread "We Own the Nuggets" or whatever, hahahaha, lookin' GOOD fellas'. Perhaps a little humility next time.[/QUOTE]
Lesson learned on that one eh?
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mavs fans need to realize that they can take something positive away from this game. here is a quick checklist
1. you are down 0-3
2. your team sucks
3. you would have lost anyway
now once you accept these 3 main facts of life, we can move on to the more important things, like whether or not bennet salvatore really takes money from the mafia
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This is how I saw it Dallas fans...
1. You had a young in experienced guy playing on Melo, and he made a young inexperienced play. That I'm sure he won't do next time. He went for the ball only on the foul and should have made it more clumsy, and wrapped up with the other hand
2. He then proceeded to not guard Melo after the initial foul attempt, inexperienced mistake
3. You lost the game because you didn't put Josh Howard on Melo on this play
EDIT: Just realised Howard had 5 fouls, so probably a result of that rather than bad coaching on that play, because your really weak at the swing positions and kidd is needed for Mr Bigshot
4. Lets not neglect the two bad shots by Dirk
5. This single play didn't cost you the game or the series, they still had the ball, you still had 2 chances to win the game and Dirk didn't take them
6. If Melo had have travelled and then hit the shot you could say the refs cost you the game, because you would have gotten the ball back, and the call would have cost you possesion, but it didn't, the nuggets would have just run a catch and shoot play
7. Cuban and Howard grossly overreacted after the game, mostly because they realised the series is basicly over and this was a must win, and its really poor sportsmanship to act like this when it was a really bad play by Wright
8. Dallas lost this game tonight because of bad coaching and bad shot selection at the end of the game, don't try and push the blame completely on the refs
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[QUOTE=spree43]This is how I saw it Dallas fans...
1. You had a young in experienced guy playing on Melo, and he made a young inexperienced play. That I'm sure he won't do next time. He went for the ball only on the foul and should have made it more clumsy, and wrapped up with the other hand
2. He then proceeded to not guard Melo after the initial foul attempt, inexperienced mistake
3. You lost the game because you didn't put Josh Howard on Melo on this play
4. Lets not neglect the two bad shots by Dirk
5. This single play didn't cost you the game or the series, they still had the ball, you still had 2 chances to win the game and Dirk didn't take them
6. If Melo had have travelled and then hit the shot you could say the refs cost you the game, because you would have gotten the ball back, and the call would have cost you possesion, but it didn't, the nuggets would have just run a catch and shoot play
7. Cuban and Howard grossly overreacted after the game, mostly because they realised the series is basicly over and this was a must win, and its really poor sportsmanship to act like this when it was a really bad play by Wright
8. Dallas lost this game tonight because of bad coaching and bad shot selection at the end of the game, don't try and push the blame completely on the refs[/QUOTE]
Great post, true dat on all counts.
Teams tell ref's they are going to foul, so you can be chapped at the refs a bit if need be, but freeking FOUL if it is the game on the line and do not have wet behind the ears sparky in the game assigned to do it.
Ref's = 1% blame here, Mavs get the other 98%. Rest is kobe's fault.
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[CENTER][I]"Carmelo fumbled the ball and I hit him," Wright said.
Wright stepped back, waiting for a call that never came.
"Antoine was so sure that he fouled that he stopped (playing)," Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle said.
[/I][B]Said Nuggets coach George Karl: "I didn't see a foul." [/B]
[/CENTER]
[url]http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_12332295[/url]
i cant wait to see game 4!!
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Refs were absolutely right in not calling a foul. A foul should only be called if the fouled player was put at a disadvantage. Melo proceeded to hit the shot. Refs made everything right, the blame should be solely on the Mavs. Wright didn't defend well enough/foul hard enough to force the refs to make a call.
And I'm a Mavs fan saying this.
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I was kinda of routing for the mavs, but:
First, it's not the first time that type of contact doesn't get a call, second if the ball didn't went in it would be the Nuggets fans that would be cursing the ref
So props for Melo and wright could have done more.
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It was a good shot but put an asterix on that game
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The Mavs just don't match up well with this year's Nuggets.
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WEAK "foul" by Wright... there is NO reason not to just hold him there if he wants to foul him. Why does he back off immediately after the bump like he was trying not to foul. If anything he confused the refs with that... it looked like he was just hoping he delayed Melo's progress enough that time would have run out.
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[QUOTE=Phenith]WEAK "foul" by Wright... there is NO reason not to just hold him there if he wants to foul him. Why does he back off immediately after the bump like he was trying not to foul. If anything he confused the refs with that... it looked like he was just hoping he delayed Melo's progress enough that time would have run out.[/QUOTE]
I think he didn't want Melo to get a shot attempt off and then get 3 shots
But an experienced player would have been able to do the second foul correctly, let alone the first
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My instant reaction was also that Wright was motioning "I didn't foul him". But logically it makes no sense. Why would Wright stop if he thought he DIDN'T foul him. He stopped playing for a reason.
Wright clearly should have continued playing and not take anything for granted, so he is wrong. But he thought foul was so obvious, that who could possibly miss it?
Woops.
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[QUOTE=oh the horror]Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, because Dallas winning this game would have been the tide turner eh? Dallas had no chance from day one dude.
It has nothing to do with the league being rigged.[/QUOTE]
agreed.
They can't blame it on one possession like J-Kidd said. It's a mistake. But refs always make mistakes. Maybe there's a mistake in the middle of the game against the Nuggets.
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Wow not GK is even more of a lil b1tch then he was before..."I didn't see a foul"
what a coward you already stole the game from them might as well admit the mistake you little chump...that's why your son ain't playing....and yo ass gonna get butt raped by the lakers...this is the year for denver...they gonna be ****ty next year compared to now cause billy ain't getting younger...lol another failure year for melo boy..
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[QUOTE=The_Yearning]Wow not GK is even more of a lil b1tch then he was before..."I didn't see a foul"
what a coward you already stole the game from them might as well admit the mistake you little chump...that's why your son ain't playing....and yo ass gonna get butt raped by the lakers...this is the year for denver...they gonna be ****ty next year compared to now cause billy ain't getting younger...lol another failure year for melo boy..[/QUOTE]
:lol Yea, because George Karl was the one who "stole" the game from them. It's Karl's fault the refs were trying to hand the Mavericks the game last night.
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What's so difficult to understand? It was a situation in which everybody in the building knew what the MAVS wanted to do.....take a situational foul.
No different than when the defensive team wants to foul and the offensive player throws the ball at the basket knowing he's trying to take the foul. Does the official make this a 3pt attempt? And give him 3 shots? No.
well...only if they choose to.
So much room for interpretation in the rule book for the officials they can do whatever they want. The teams didnt matter, it was a good day in the desert.
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[QUOTE=Mile High Crew]To all of you who don't understand why we Nuggets fans believe that it wasn't a foul please click and read the following link:
[url]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3001461#post3001461[/url][/QUOTE]
nugget fans vs the NBA and the rest of the reasonable fans plus the press equals you won don't be a sore winner admit the refs ****ed it up and move on.
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[QUOTE=OneMoreSucka]Nuggets > Mavs[/QUOTE]
agreed so there is no reason for the NBA to give the game to the Nuggets. So you want the corrected call to count so you can go ahead and prove how much better they are than the Mavs? I think they should. The NBA has an agenda and they work towards that. So far this year only the Magic have screwed up the NBA's plans by beating the 76'ers with Howard gone in the last game of the series. The NBA its fixedtastic.
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[QUOTE=icemanfan]nugget fans vs the NBA and the rest of the reasonable fans plus the press equals you won don't be a sore winner admit the refs ****ed it up and move on.[/QUOTE]
There's a whole load of people in this thread who don't measure up with your description of a 'reasonable fan'. Maybe take another vote, your last one sucks.
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well theres nothing you can now to change the outcome. :rolleyes:
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[QUOTE=OneMoreSucka]Can't we all just agree that Antoine Wright is a dumbass so we can all get along?[/QUOTE]
/end thread
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[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]dallas should go out there with an intent to injure carmelo anthony. what do they have to lose?[/QUOTE]
Dignity?
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[QUOTE=Doranku]Dignity?[/QUOTE]
after you get fcked year after year, you just lose it. dirk will go postal in game 4.
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[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]dallas should go out there with an intent to injure carmelo anthony. what do they have to lose?[/QUOTE]
thats just fcked up man. every basketball player knows its extremely classless to try to injure another player. If dirk heard you saying this he would smack you upside the head.
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[QUOTE=KeylessEntry]thats just fcked up man. every basketball player knows its extremely classless to try to injure another player. If dirk heard you saying this he would smack you upside the head.[/QUOTE]
in the heat of the battle, anything goes. nah, but i am not talking about bringing metal bars and machine guns on the court, just a nice hard foul to end melo's play-offs. anyways im pretty sure i am joking, i like melo. maybe go for nene.
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[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]in the heat of the battle, anything goes. nah, but i am not talking about bringing metal bars and machine guns on the court, just a nice hard foul to end melo's play-offs. anyways im pretty sure i am joking, i like melo. maybe go for nene.[/QUOTE]
thats messed up regardless of whether you are "pretty sure you are joking". its flat out classless to wish injuries on any NBA player.
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damn they even reviewed the play after that, how the hell does three referees missed it.
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Someone needs to injure Kobe and end his playoffs.
[COLOR="White"]Retarded Lakers fans.[/COLOR]
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[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]in the heat of the battle, anything goes. nah, but i am not talking about bringing metal bars and machine guns on the court, just a nice hard foul to end melo's play-offs. anyways im pretty sure i am joking, i like melo. maybe go for nene.[/QUOTE]
The Nuggs are a much more physical team, I'm not sure the Mavies want to pick any fights.
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[QUOTE=NoGunzJustSkillz]in the heat of the battle, anything goes. nah, but i am not talking about bringing metal bars and machine guns on the court, just a nice hard foul to end melo's play-offs. anyways im pretty sure i am joking, i like melo. maybe go for nene.[/QUOTE]
Wow. What a dumbass. If anything happens to anyone on the Nuggets YOU will be the one injured.