Mark Cuban yells at K-Mart's Mom...

[QUOTE=John Smith]He is humble and uses the english language properly. His body language/disposition is 100% the opposite of Kenyon Martin's. This has nothing to do with race even though you seem fixated on it. That would make you the real racist. You hate white people, say it! :lol[/QUOTE]

You are a joke. Derek Rose doesn't even have a degree. You don't know him... Kenyon Martin for all his speech impediments is more eloquent than Derek Rose is when interviewed. And who is to say Derek Rose speaks like that all the time. He is from Chi-town right? Bet you he can use the old ebonics with the best of them...

You are racist. Every racist has his black "friends" or black people who are ok with him. The house negro if you will. I am done. Keep whatever broke mentality you have. I only hope one day you have a change of heart.

So sad, you are stuck in a rut. You had potential More Fire. You had spunk and a curious nature. But your closed mind is holding you back. It's been real. One.

[QUOTE=John Smith]Chris Andersen is a thug because that is the image he has taken on, yet the people love him because of his swag. Do the people love Kenyon Martin? Did Mark Cuban talk ish to Andersen's mother?[/QUOTE]

Well at least you believe a White player(Chris Andersen) on the Team of millionaires you support is a thug also. :rolleyes:

You are indirectly supporting/approving of their behavior, & the 'tons' of other NBA thugs ,by supporting the Nuggets(Jr Smith/Andersen/Martin,etc...) & the League.

No it's people like you who curiosly don't pre judge or have preconceived ideas stereotypes about other Whites like the once expelled/tattooed/ drug addict Anderson as oppossed to the College educated Martin who has never been in trouble.

David Stern & I have heard all this before:sleeping

Now go back to supporting your 'thugs' both financially & morally.

[QUOTE=Mor'Fiyah]What proportion of people who live at or below the poverty line are in prison whether they be black, white, hispanic, asian etc.?
[/QUOTE]

And in such a strongly driven capitalistic society like America, those that are placed in unequal or inequitable positions in society, will likely stay there since our political and social structure is created to keep those that are down at the bottom in there place.

[QUOTE=Mor'Fiyah]Once you answer that you will see that people aren't in prison because of their race but because they are poor. Rich people generally don't commit crimes because they don't think they have to. They are already rich.[/QUOTE]

Rich people create crimes, for example, the act of stealing, which is taking something that is not yours.... here is how it plays out race/wealth wise...

Poor people(both black and white, but your local news station will only show you the black thieves) - they steal by robbing, mugging, or blatently taking money from someone.

Rich people (generally white) - they creatively acquire someone elses money, then after they leave with the money, the other rich and greedy person who was had, now wants to scream theft, robber, or whatever after their greedy ignorant self fell for it.

Rich people just go through a longer process to steal money and wealth, poor people just do it as quick as they can.

And rich people comprise of the largest amount of theft FINANCIALLY speaking... Bernie Madoff committed a larger crime in monetary value as oppossed to all of the thefts by petty criminals combined in Ohio.

Oh how we view things differently.

[B]and to John Smith you are a perfect example of the word ignorance[/B].

[QUOTE=John Smith]I do and they bring up the N word. They say that's why they moved away from their neighborhoods. In fact, that is another problem. People of a certain group abandon their communities once they become wealthy and educated. They should stay and re-invest in their neighborhoods to give others, like them, a better opportunity. So maybe there would be more businesses instead of just strip clubs, liquor stores, and fast food chains. Although theft would be a concern...by both customers and employees.[/QUOTE]

omg your such a hypocrite, your dancing around the questions

Why do you have locks on your doors in your good neighborhood, ITs because [B]crime is everywhere regradless of people's races[/B], you know nothing of the black commuinty yet your talking like you actually help people from poor backgrounds. your an embrassment :banghead:

Cavs2007...This guy isn't dealing with reality. In Atlanta, for example, the local news stations NEVER mention the race of suspects in the stories that they air. Also, when rich people involve themselves in white collar crimes when they steal, they don't shoot people to do it! see the difference?

[QUOTE=Sammobile]omg your such a hypocrite, your dancing around the questions

Why do you have locks on your doors in your good neighborhood, ITs because [B]crime is everywhere regradless of people's races[/B], you know nothing of the black commuinty yet your talking like you actually help people from poor backgrounds. your an embrassment :banghead:[/QUOTE]

At least I know how to use your and you're properly. Now who is the embarASSment? :cheers:

[QUOTE=John Smith]At least I know how to use your and you're properly. Now who is the embarASSment? :cheers:[/QUOTE]
again :hammertime: around the statement, sorry Ms. Wallace for the grammar didn't know you had a account on insidehoops :confusedshrug:

[QUOTE=John Smith]What does the truth hurt or something? Do you know prison population statistics? Do you deny the criminal problems that plague certain group's neighborhoods? it's the facts. it is 2009. a half black man is the president. if we can't talk about it now, then we never will be able to.[/QUOTE]

I don't mind the truth, I love giving people the truth. I believe America and everyone would be better off if they faced the truth and reality, but your truth is very skewed and ignorant. Your truth is based off of that of a Middle Class Ignorant Naive Prejudice(Not Racist, I believe people throw the word racist around to much) White Male, which is going to be a different truth than mine. I am also a middle class white male, but my education and understanding of TRUTH is different than yours, and that's the biggest determining factor in how truth is viewed between you and I and others.

Let's talk about those statistics and proportion...

Take a look at any "negatively viewed" statistic and you will see that everyone is unproportionally represented, Whites don't do as many crimes, and Blacks do all of the crimes, or that is what we are led to believe by the media and stats. How many more white people who commit petty crimes compared to black people are put onto house arrest? Or get community service? The punishments are handled differently which shows a prejudice judicial system.

Another example... Which is more publicized White people on welfare or Black people on welfare?

Look at the way laws are constructed, crack and cocaine are the same drug just different form, and someone who possesses a crack rock while being apprehended by the cops is given a lengthier jail sentence than someone with the same amount of cocaine, see how that works out?

I understand you think certain ideas are truth, but there are different ways of going about it, calling anyone with a tattoo and a walk different than yours a thug is complete ignorance.

You should read an excerpt by Michel de Montaigne, "Of Cannibals" was the name of the passage or book, I am not sure which one, it's a reading in my World Literature class. Read that and then see how you yourself, and many Americans, especially White people, and upper class folks view anyone else other than themselves differently, and always in a negative light.

[QUOTE=Cavs2007Champs]I don't mind the truth, I love giving people the truth. I believe America and everyone would be better off if they faced the truth and reality, but your truth is very skewed and ignorant. Your truth is based off of that of a Middle Class Ignorant Naive Prejudice White Male, which is going to be a different truth than mine. I am also a middle class white male, but my education and understanding of TRUTH is different than yours, and that's the biggest determining factor in how truth is viewed between you and I.

Let's talk about those statistics...

Take a look at any "negatively viewed" statistic and you will see that everyone is unproportionally represented, Whites don't do as may crimes, and Blacks do all of the crimes. Which is more publicized White people on welfare or Black people on welfare?

Look at the way laws are constructed, crack and cocaine are the same drug just different form, and someone who possesses a crack rock while being apprehended by the cops is given a lengthier jail sentence than someone with the same amount of cocaine, see how that works out?

I understand you think certain ideas are truth, but there are different ways of going about it, calling anyone with a tattoo and a walk different than yours a thug is complete ignorance.

You should read an excerpt by Michel de Montaigne, "Of Cannibals" was the passage or book, I am not sure, it's a part of my World Literature class. Read that and then see how you yourself, and many Americans, especially White people, and upper class folks view anyone else other than themselves differently, and always in a negative light.[/QUOTE]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: Thank you bro.

ill go back to another thread...what makes someone a thug? couldnt get an answer then, lets see if i get one now.

[QUOTE=NugzFan]ill go back to another thread...what makes someone a thug? couldnt get an answer then, lets see if i get one now.[/QUOTE]

well according to John Smith anyone that is [I]black[/I], [I]have tatoos[/I], and [B]doesn't talk like he wants them[/B] to is a thug

[QUOTE=Mor'Fiyah]You are racist. Every racist has his black "friends" or black people who are ok with him. The house negro if you will. I am done. Keep whatever broke mentality you have. I only hope one day you have a change of heart.[/QUOTE]

You can't go around calling people racist if you don't truly know em Fiyah.

He may show a lot of prejudices but until he goes around calling out names, and truly discriminating against other races through his actions, then you can call him a racist, until then use prejudice as the word, since he obviously has a few of his own.

I'll just say that John Smith uses to much of the media to draw his conclusions about the Black race, and not enough of positive examples.

Mo'Fiyah, it's not his fault that only the "negative" Black celebrities or public figures are made to be the posterboard figures of the Black community.

American's love to debate the negatives, but rarely do we argue about the positive role models.

We will start a debate over who is a bigger thug, but not who is the bigger saint, see where I am going.

Message... as Damon Wayans would say in Don't be a Menace... Think about it.

[QUOTE=Sammobile]well according to John Smith anyone that is [I]black[/I], [I]have tatoos[/I], and [B]doesn't talk like he wants them[/B] to is a thug[/QUOTE]

You forgot uneducated. And it does not mean they are a thug it means their probability of being one increases based off of the stats that anyone can find on google.

[QUOTE=Cavs2007Champs] I don't mind the truth, I love giving people the truth. I believe America and everyone would be better off if they faced the truth and reality, but your truth is very skewed and ignorant. Your truth is based off of that of a Middle Class Ignorant Naive Prejudice(Not Racist, I believe people throw the word racist around to much) White Male, which is going to be a different truth than mine. I am also a middle class white male, but my education and understanding of TRUTH is different than yours, and that's the biggest determining factor in how truth is viewed between you and I and others. [/QUOTE]

The difference? Your holier than thou attitude won't get you laid by the same kinds of broads that I am nailing. Plus, I have real world experience growing up on the south side of chicago. I'd like to drop you off in the wild 100's and see how far your ability to read a book will get you. There are two kinds of smarts in this world, book smarts and street smarts. You lack the latter. You represent an ignorant youth who is both naive and impressionable. You probably still live with your parents and think you have it all figured out...


[QUOTE=Cavs2007Champs]Let's talk about those statistics and proportion...

Take a look at any "negatively viewed" statistic and you will see that everyone is unproportionally represented, Whites don't do as many crimes, and Blacks do all of the crimes, or that is what we are led to believe by the media and stats. How many more white people who commit petty crimes compared to black people are put onto house arrest? Or get community service? The punishments are handled differently which shows a prejudice judicial system.

Another example... Which is more publicized White people on welfare or Black people on welfare?

Look at the way laws are constructed, crack and cocaine are the same drug just different form, and someone who possesses a crack rock while being apprehended by the cops is given a lengthier jail sentence than someone with the same amount of cocaine, see how that works out?[/QUOTE]

Rich people, such as judges and politicians, do cocaine more than they do rock. Obviously, they will have lighter sentences for things that involve them and their friends/families. Is it right? No, but it is reality.

Per capita, everyone knows which group has the most people on welfare. The most gets publicized.

[QUOTE=Cavs2007Champs]I understand you think certain ideas are truth, but there are different ways of going about it, calling anyone with a tattoo and a walk different than yours a thug is complete ignorance.

You should read an excerpt by Michel de Montaigne, "Of Cannibals" was the name of the passage or book, I am not sure which one, it's a reading in my World Literature class. Read that and then see how you yourself, and many Americans, especially White people, and upper class folks view anyone else other than themselves differently, and always in a negative light.[/QUOTE]

I don't need to read your books written by some sissy frenchman. I am too busy reading my own, thank you ver much. And they include books such as the Tibetan Book of the Dead and other books regarding eastern philosophy.

[QUOTE=Cavs2007Champs]You can't go around calling people racist if you don't truly know em Fiyah.

He may show a lot of prejudices but until he goes around calling out names, and truly discriminating against other races, then call him one, until them use prejudice as the word.

I'll just say that John Smith uses to much of the media to draw his conclusions about the Black race, and not enough of positive examples.

Mo'Fiyah, it's not his fault that only the "negative" Black celebrities or public figures are made to be the posterboard figures of the Black community.

American's love to debate the negatives, but rarely do we argue about the positive role models.

We will start a debate over who is a bigger thug, but not who is the bigger saint, see where I am going.

Message... as Damon Wayans would say in Don't be a Menace... Think about it.[/QUOTE]

Funny how you think I use too much media. I appreciate your input as you are clearly educated. However, you have no idea the despise that I hold for today's media. It is nothing like the media that once informed the nation like it was in the Edward Murrow days...today's media is filled with tools for the CEO's of these large media corporations. Media today is meant to entertain instead of inform. I don't bother with the media...it is not serious.

And what about Chicago's very own Barack Obama? Isn't he a positive role model?

[QUOTE=Sammobile]well according to John Smith anyone that is [I]black[/I], [I]have tatoos[/I], and [B]doesn't talk like he wants them[/B] to is a thug[/QUOTE]

oh ok. :oldlol:

[QUOTE=John Smith]You forgot uneducated. And it does not mean they are a thug it means their probability of being one increases based off of the stats that anyone can find on google.[/quote]

ok so black, uneducated and has tattoos = thug? just want to be sure.

if it increases their chances, then what DOES make them a thug? what makes one black, uneducated tattooed player a thug while another black, uneducated tattooed player not a thug?

[QUOTE=John Smith]The difference? Your holier than thou attitude won't get you laid by the same kinds of broads that I am nailing [/QUOTE]

:lol: internet player

[QUOTE=NugzFan]ok so black, uneducated and has tattoos = thug? just want to be sure.

if it increases their chances, then what DOES make them a thug? what makes one black, uneducated tattooed player a thug while another black, uneducated tattooed player not a thug?[/QUOTE]

Wow, can people read? The probablity increases if one is all of those things. Heck, sadly the probablity increases based upon race alone!

[QUOTE=John Smith][B]You forgot uneducated.[/B] And it does not mean they are a thug it means their probability of being one increases based off of the stats that anyone can find on google.[/QUOTE]

how is Kenyon Martin a thug when he is educated?

[QUOTE=Sammobile]how is Kenyon Martin a thug when he is educated?[/QUOTE]

Do you really believe schools don't give special treatment to elite athletes like Kenyon Martin?

Dude, I'm white. Really white. I have Asian friends, Hispanic friends, Iranian, Israeli.... but no black friends. There're like no black people in San Diego or Littleton where I grew up.

I can't stand 50 Cent. That whole culture. The 'Thug' culture.

I see it as something that keeps black people down.

I am in no way racist, but I am prejudice I suppose in that I probably group people into that 'thug culture' that I have no right doing.

But seriously, I hate 50 Cent.

And K-Mart is a badass. And Cuban should get his face beat in.

That's all.

[QUOTE=John Smith]The difference? Your holier than thou attitude won't get you laid by the same kinds of broads that I am nailing. Plus, I have real world experience growing up on the south side of chicago. I'd like to drop you off in the wild 100's and see how far your ability to read a book will get you. There are two kinds of smarts in this world, book smarts and street smarts. You lack the latter. You represent an ignorant youth who is both naive and impressionable. You probably still live with your parents and think you have it all figured out....[/QUOTE]

Why are you bringing up females that you are "nailing", and what a stupid word I might add, what does that have to do with anything we are talking about. What holier than thou attitude do I have? I am just trying to debate/argue with you in a more grown manner, not the way other ISH posters argue with the trolls here.

And speaking of street smarts and book smarts, how in the world do you know what I do and don't have? I'm not gonna question what you do or don't have based on 1 thread on an internet forum. Why would you claim I lack street smarts, when you know nothing of what I do, we are on the Web, so I guess we are talking about "Web smarts". Until you see and speak with me in the "streets" that is when you see "street smarts". I am trying to blend my "street and book smarts" together to talk with you and the other posters.

And why are you claiming I am an ignorant youth who lives with my mother? You know nothing about my education, intelligence, personal life, street or book smarts. This post shows your true ignorance when you resort to name calling on no basis, what in my previous posts leads you to believe that I am still at home with my parents and have this holier than thou attitude and am an impressionable youth? Where do you get those opinions? Because I sound more intelligent than you, so you go to weak personal attacks.

I called you ignorant after reading your first few posts, but I realized after a reading a few more that you started to change the way you were talking/discussing which gave me a different impression of you, a more favorable one I would add.

After this post I'm up in the air I guess. Some of the stuff you have been posing is the truth and reality but again there are other ways to go about discussing what you think the truth is.


[QUOTE=John Smith]I don't need to read your books written by some sissy frenchman. I am too busy reading my own, thank you ver much. And they include books such as the Tibetan Book of the Dead and other books regarding eastern philosophy.[/QUOTE]

Well great, I just wanted to recommend a book which could help you with the way you look at society. Maybe you would see it from another view as oppossed to the narrow view that you have of society now.

It's not 50 cent's fault that the non-black CEO's in the music and entertainment industry choose to make him into a star. The real question is why do they choose to do so? They control the air waves and mtv so whatever they put out will be listened to and sold. But why do they choose to support 50 cent and soulja boy? Even Nas realizes what kind of "artists" these people are.

Cavs, I made those conclusions about you based on your post. You clearly were talking down to me. Even if it is deservedly so, you see why I made those conclusions about you. No need to get upset about it. that is not the ISH way.

[QUOTE=John Smith]Do you really believe schools don't give special treatment to elite athletes like Kenyon Martin?[/QUOTE]

:( my goodness you so prejudice you'd turn anything around, you don't know Martin or what happened in while he was in school(grades)
your so worried about other people you don't even see the problems in your own community

[QUOTE=Cavs2007Champs]You can't go around calling people racist if you don't truly know em Fiyah.

He may show a lot of prejudices but until he goes around calling out names, and truly discriminating against other races through his actions, then you can call him a racist, until then use prejudice as the word, since he obviously has a few of his own.

I'll just say that John Smith uses to much of the media to draw his conclusions about the Black race, and not enough of positive examples.

Mo'Fiyah, it's not his fault that only the "negative" Black celebrities or public figures are made to be the posterboard figures of the Black community.

American's love to debate the negatives, but rarely do we argue about the positive role models.

We will start a debate over who is a bigger thug, but not who is the bigger saint, see where I am going.

Message... as Damon Wayans would say in Don't be a Menace... Think about it.[/QUOTE]

At first I made sure to call him prejudiced instead of racist... but the more we discussed the situation the more I thought maybe he is a racist. Sure I don't know him but he has made some extremely racist comments on here. It may be that we have different definitions of a racist... to me once you begin to consciously use skin color as a large factor into pre-judging someone then you become a racist. I certainly think, based on his comments, that John Smith is a being racist in doing so. Racists aren't just white supremacists after all...

Cuban released his [URL="http://www.nba.com/2009/playoffs2009/05/12/cuban.apology.ap/index.html?cid=playoff1"]apology [/URL]today on his personal blog. Never heard of a situation like this before.

[QUOTE=Sammobile]:( my goodness you so prejudice you'd turn anything around, you don't know Martin or what happened in while he was in school(grades)
your so worried about other people you don't even see the problems in your own community[/QUOTE]

come on now, just check out USC and Ohio State. Google:

"Maurice Clarett ohio state"

or

"OJ Mayo USC"

It's just the facts...sadly.

[QUOTE=Mor'Fiyah]At first I made sure to call him prejudiced instead of racist... but the more we discussed the situation the more I thought maybe he is a racist. Sure I don't know him but he has made some extremely racist comments on here. It may be that we have different definitions of a racist... to me once you begin to consciously use skin color as a large factor into pre-judging someone then you become a racist. I certainly think, based on his comments, that John Smith is a being racist in doing so. Racists aren't just white supremacists after all...[/QUOTE]

Did it ever occur to you that I am at work and engage in controversial conversation to help my day go by faster? It's working! :applause:

[QUOTE=John Smith]come on now, just check out USC and Ohio State. Google:

"Maurice Clarett ohio state"

It's just the facts...sadly.[/QUOTE]


what does that have to do with K-Mart? they have nothing in common

[QUOTE=Sammobile]what does that have to do with K-Mart? they have nothing in common[/QUOTE]

They kind of do though. If you are a star, universities will do whatever it takes to keep you happy. Even give you A's if you don't deserve it. That's just the tip of the iceberg. He's just one that got caught. Imagine all of the others that are not getting caught...

[QUOTE=John Smith]Funny how you think I use too much media. I appreciate your input as you are clearly educated. However, you have no idea the despise that I hold for today's media. It is nothing like the media that once informed the nation like it was in the Edward Murrow days...today's media is filled with tools for the CEO's of these large media corporations. Media today is meant to entertain instead of inform. I don't bother with the media...it is not serious.

And what about Chicago's very own Barack Obama? Isn't he a positive role model?[/QUOTE]

Ok we can agree on how the media is not doing anything that it could truly do, on a positive side that is.

I said it in a post already, I read your first few posts and you sounded very naive, ignorant, and young, then you changed the way you debated/argued, and I see a different person, but the same views. I just disliked the way you initially voiced your opinion, that's where I believed you came off ignorant, but then again what's the point of the internet if you can't speak how you truly feel?

I guess it's a backwards game.

On the behalf of Barack Obama, you are going with the American trend, assuming he should be the poster child for the positive Black man role model, [B]BUT DAMNIT THE MAN IS BI-RACIAL, WHITE AND BLACK[/B]. America made him choose one, solely based on his skin color. The man was raised like a typical/ideal "white kid". Lived with his white family during his youth, worked hard to get him to where he needed to be in life, ivy league school and the list goes on.

So many people label him the "FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT" the man is bi-racial, what's the point of having an "OTHER" box or "BI-RACIAL" if it doesn't matter to America. People look at Barack and see brown skin, so if you are brown you're black.


Whatever I guess, America is crazy and F'd up.

Sorry for the rant, that's not directed solely at you, just the society in general.

But for every Barack Obama we have a lot of bad apples that are portrayed. America in general doesn't portray a lot of positive role models, think about it.

Like Chamillionaire said, "Controversy Sells"

Again, every post I make on this board is to help my work day go by faster. Thanks for humoring me people. :cheers:

[QUOTE=John Smith]Wow, can people read? The probablity increases if one is all of those things. Heck, sadly the probablity increases based upon race alone![/QUOTE]

Based on the defintion of "racism" and its associated adjective...

[I]rac

Is it discrimination, More Fire, though if it is based off of facts and reality? I don't see it as such but maybe I am wrong.

[QUOTE=John Smith]Cavs, I made those conclusions about you based on your post. You clearly were talking down to me. Even if it is deservedly so, you see why I made those conclusions about you. No need to get upset about it. that is not the ISH way.[/QUOTE]

Ehh I still think you had some useless comments/conclusions based on my post, but whatever, we have different agendas.

Your view isn't a minority, but others aren't seeing everything that you are saying, a lot is true, but now you have the "racist" and "prejudice" label so others are going 2 take everything you say and overblow it.

I've seen Chicago, and it isn't pretty, I know that. I've been in Columbus, Cleveland, and Cincinnati, all have their bad areas, just not as large as Chicago. I was hoping to move to Chicago to teach in the Southside, but my wife hates the winter months there, she says they are horrible and brutal. We're looking at somewhere in the south now.

Now that we have met a middle ground, I see what you are saying. Enjoy work.

[QUOTE=John Smith]Did it ever occur to you that I am at work and engage in controversial conversation to help my day go by faster? It's working! :applause:[/QUOTE]

And? Aren't most of us doing the same? I certainly am... but even so... what does that have to do with your incessant racial posts?

[QUOTE=Mor'Fiyah]And? Aren't most of us doing the same? I certainly am... but even so... what does that have to do with your incessant racial posts?[/QUOTE]

Just in this thread about thugs and keyon martin. I said those things to spark a debate and I think I got more than what I was looking for. I know better now. :hammerhead: It turned into a wildfire before you could count to three.

[QUOTE=Cavs2007Champs]Ok we can agree on how the media is not doing anything that it could truly do, on a positive side that is.

I said it in a post already, I read your first few posts and you sounded very naive, ignorant, and young, then you changed the way you debated/argued, and I see a different person, but the same views. I just disliked the way you initially voiced your opinion, that's where I believed you came off ignorant, but then again what's the point of the internet if you can't speak how you truly feel?

I guess it's a backwards game.

On the behalf of Barack Obama, you are going with the American trend, assuming he should be the poster child for the positive Black man role model, [B]BUT DAMNIT THE MAN IS BI-RACIAL, WHITE AND BLACK[/B]. America made him choose one, solely based on his skin color. The man was raised like a typical/ideal "white kid". Lived with his white family during his youth, worked hard to get him to where he needed to be in life, ivy league school and the list goes on.

So many people label him the "FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT" the man is bi-racial, what's the point of having an "OTHER" box or "BI-RACIAL" if it doesn't matter to America. People look at Barack and see brown skin, so if you are brown you're black.


Whatever I guess, America is crazy and F'd up.

Sorry for the rant, that's not directed solely at you, just the society in general.

But for every Barack Obama we have a lot of bad apples that are portrayed. America in general doesn't portray a lot of positive role models, think about it.

Like Chamillionaire said, "Controversy Sells"[/QUOTE]

While I agree that society did indeed label Barack black it should also be noted that he also identifies as being black and married a black woman and has black kids. So I think its safe to say Barack is both percieved as a black man and identifies as a black man.

[QUOTE=Sammobile]what does that have to do with K-Mart? they have nothing in common[/QUOTE]

Absolutely nothing, but considering this idot has claimed or admitted to trolling for a response instead of a reasonable exchange of ideas says a lot about him.

Either he is an idiot who has obvious touched upon a subject upon which he knows little & is ill equipped to seriously debate or he his trolling.

He has never answered any reasonable questions with reasonable responses so to continue with this guy is futile.

[QUOTE=John Smith]Is it discrimination, More Fire, though if it is based off of facts and reality? I don't see it as such but maybe I am wrong.[/QUOTE]


There is no scientific or social proof that links skin colour to immoral or criminal behaviour. So yes, it is dicrimination. And discrimination based on skin colour is called racial discrimination. And people who racially discriminate are called racists.