Hahaha, it's funny to see where Oakafor is now in his career. So many people thought Orlando was inept for passing over him for DHoward for the #1 pick. Okafor ended up with ROY but I'm glad things panned out like they did...
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Hahaha, it's funny to see where Oakafor is now in his career. So many people thought Orlando was inept for passing over him for DHoward for the #1 pick. Okafor ended up with ROY but I'm glad things panned out like they did...
[QUOTE=visirale]Hahaha, it's funny to see where Oakafor is now in his career. So many people thought Orlando was inept for passing over him for DHoward for the #1 pick. Okafor ended up with ROY but I'm glad things panned out like they did...[/QUOTE]
I remember that too. Most "experts" thought Okafor should be the #1 pick.
[QUOTE=bagelred]I remember that too. Most "experts" thought Okafor should be the #1 pick.[/QUOTE]
hindsight is always 20/20, at the time though Okafor just dominated college
I don't get it... the Bobcats have 4 Centers on the roster and they trade away the only one worthwhile one? Did someone lace the water supply in Charlotte with hallucinogenic drugs or something? What's wrong with those people?
So the bobcats aren't getting anything else? What a horrible trade. They don't know what the hell they are doing.
[QUOTE=ronnymac]Put the money issue aside, this a steal for the hornets. they get a borderline allstar for an overrated injury prone role player. emekas numbers will be 19-10 with paul[/QUOTE]
This makes him a borderline superstar? Let's be honest here, Okafor hasn't exactly lived entirely up to his expectations thus far. Sure, so much potential there, but I don't think he'll bloom into the superstar people think he will.
19/10 - you call that borderline superstar numbers?
:confusedshrug:
[QUOTE=Pain of Thought]This makes him a borderline superstar? Let's be honest here, Okafor hasn't exactly lived entirely up to his expectations thus far. Sure, so much potential there, but I don't think he'll bloom into the superstar people think he will.
19/10 - you call that borderline superstar numbers?
:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
Yes, 20-10? how many players average that? How many players average 10 rebounds regardless of pts? Thats borderline superstar IMO. WHo really cares if hes a star, all star, superstar, supernova? Its all dumb terminology that non-bball players get way too caught up in
[QUOTE=Pain of Thought]This makes him a borderline superstar? Let's be honest here, Okafor hasn't exactly lived entirely up to his expectations thus far. Sure, so much potential there, but I don't think he'll bloom into the superstar people think he will.
19/10 - you call that borderline superstar numbers?
:confusedshrug:[/QUOTE]
He said allstar, not superstar. Or are you suggesting, that all allstars are automatically superstars? There've been starters on the allstar game with much worse numbers then 19/10
[QUOTE=boozehound]just wait to see how disappointed you will be in chandler then.
for the poster who said chandler is a better rebounder/shotblocker, SAY WHAT?
Stats dont show that, game footage dont show that, nothing in reality supports that argument. I do agree that chandler may be a better man-on defender.[/QUOTE]
we agree. shocking. people must not see chandler play aside from highlights of sensational weakside blocks since we already know nobody watches the cats and okafor. so who wants kaman's contract? anyone?
[QUOTE=boozehound]Yes, 20-10? how many players average that? How many players average 10 rebounds regardless of pts? Thats borderline superstar IMO. WHo really cares if hes a star, all star, superstar, supernova? Its all dumb terminology that non-bball players get way too caught up in[/QUOTE]
I'm glad to see CP3 get an upgrade here (and that's still debatable) but this combo doesn't automatically make New Orleans a contender this year even as great as CP3 is (by far best PG in today's league). I understand your point about "tags" being placed on players and whatnot, but when people say superstar or even borderline superstar at that position, you're comparing them to D.Howard, and ya boy O is nothing close.
Charlotte gets worse. They trade away their franchise player for an often injured center in Chandler. I don't like it one bit but I'm loving the big three of Paul, West, and Okafor for the Hornets.
The Charlotte residents in this thread know what's up. Don't look for Emeka to be converting many of those alley oops a healthy Tyson made highlight reels with.
I like this trade for the Hornets, don't really understand it for the Bobcats. The Hornets get to dump Chandler which they have been trying to do and get a good young player with tons of upside IMO. Stojakavic needs to go next in my opinion. I heard that the Hornets were already planning to start Julian Wright this year in his place.
Good job, Mike. And I can't people still spell it "Okafur".
Mike Jordan is a retard.
Charlotte just got quite a bit worse.
How the **** was Houston not ALL OVER Okafor??????!?!!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he was born in the H.
[QUOTE=dr. bob's bunch]The Charlotte residents in this thread know what's up. Don't look for Emeka to be converting many of those alley oops a healthy Tyson made highlight reels with.[/QUOTE]
:D
As long as chandler is healthy and can actually play, this trade will be good. I'm starting to see the brighter side... okafor's main perk was his defense. Chandler is arguably as good or better. We didn't rely on okafor's offense at all, so there's no change there -- except maybe more points, because chandler will convert more of those under the basket touches imo. Oh, and less possessions wasted on getting his shot packed into the stands.
I like Okafor though, wish him the best in NO :cheers:
[QUOTE=wang4three]Good job, Mike. And I can't people still spell it "Okafur".[/QUOTE]
I "can't people" still either.
[QUOTE=Huey Freeman]I "can't people" still either.[/QUOTE]
tou che.
Does anyone find it odd that two players, probably roughly the same age, who play the exact same position, with similar dollar amounts per year on contract, with somewhat similar skillsets, end up being traded for each other in basically a straight up trade? Weird.....
It's like trading Chris Paul for Deron Williams....Wha????
[quote=bagelred]Does anyone find it odd that two players, probably roughly the same age, who play the exact same position, with similar dollar amounts per year on contract, with somewhat similar skillsets, end up being traded for each other in basically a straight up trade? Weird.....
It's like trading Chris Paul for Deron Williams....Wha????[/quote]
Chris Paul for Deron Williams is a great comparison.
Emeka is listed as a significantly better player statistically (Paul), yet people are deluded into believing Emeka (Paul) and Chandler (Deron) are on par players.
This will give more scoring opurtunities to the Bobcat's wing players since they aren't forcefeeding Okafor shots. Chandler will probably get all his buckets on putbacks and fastbreaks.
New Orleans actually has gotten worse. They lost size. Okafor will be exposed nightly against the gargantuan centers of the Western conference. He also is not the open court player that Tyson is, and does not play above the rim to make up for his lack of size.
[QUOTE=Dasher]New Orleans actually has gotten worse. They lost size. Okafor will be exposed nightly against the gargantuan centers of the Western conference. He also is not the open court player that Tyson is, and does not play above the rim to make up for his lack of size.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this (for the most part). I dont think his D will suffer significantly, but he is clearly not as good in the open court and doesnt finish above the rim. chandler looked so good because paul set him up with those types of opportunities. Okafor wont finish those as well IMO
NOH - lottery bound?
[QUOTE=Dasher]New Orleans actually has gotten worse. They lost size. Okafor will be exposed nightly against the gargantuan centers of the Western conference. He also is not the open court player that Tyson is, and does not play above the rim to make up for his lack of size.[/QUOTE]
Chandler was awful this season. He averaged 8/8 and was always the bench with an injury.
I've got no doubt Paul will find a way to make use of Okafor. He did tons of damage in college when there were teammates who hung around the post.
[QUOTE=Dasher]New Orleans actually has gotten worse. They lost size. Okafor will be exposed nightly against the gargantuan centers of the Western conference. He also is not the open court player that Tyson is, and does not play above the rim to make up for his lack of size.[/QUOTE]
What gargantuan centers? Kaman and Dampier? Outside of Bynum, there aren't that many big athletic centers out west.
[quote=yobore]Chandler was awful this season. He averaged 8/8 and was always the bench with an injury.
There is no doubt Paul will definitely find a way to make use of Okafor. He did tons of damage in college when there were teammates who hung around the post.[/quote]Yeah he was hurt last season. He has had ample time to recover from his toe injury. Emeka dominating during college does not mean as much because his dominance occured at the height of the one and done era. He did not really go up against the best young talent. They were for the most part, already in the NBA. As a person that watched a lot of Bobcats games, I can tell you that Okafor is fool's gold.
[QUOTE=wang4three]What gargantuan centers? Kaman and Dampier? Outside of Bynum, there aren't that many big athletic centers out west.[/QUOTE]
I wouldnt consider Bynum athletic
Mike Jordan, might be having a thing pulled up his sleeve. Maybe he is trying to open up room for 2010???
I think it is a fair deal, they both are good at blocks, have zero post game and chandler is more athlete and the Bobcats get cap space for FA
[quote=wang4three]What gargantuan centers? Kaman and Dampier? Outside of Bynum, there aren't that many big athletic centers out west.[/quote]Amare, Duncan, Dirk, Al Jefferson, Pau, Andrew Bynum, Nene etc. He lucked up with the Yao injury, but he will face a lot of bigs 4 times next year that are generally too much for him to handle.
[QUOTE=Dasher] I can tell you that Okafor is fool's gold.[/QUOTE]
In that case Tyson is fool's bronze. Okafor is a definite upgrade over Tyson.
[QUOTE=Dasher]Amare, Duncan, Dirk, Al Jefferson, Pau, Andrew Bynum, Nene etc. He lucked up with the Yao injury, but he will face a lot of bigs 4 times next year that are generally too much for him to handle.[/QUOTE]
Amare, Duncan, Jefferson, Nene aren't bigger than Okafor. They're each 6-10, 6-11ish and Okafor is as strong as any of them if not more so. I don't think he'll be exposed. He's a good defender, with good timing on blocks, and he's fairly athletic. He may not run the floor as well as Chandler, but he certainly makes it up with a decent post game and a fairly consistent 10 foot jump shot.
[quote=yobore]In that case Tyson is fool's bronze. Okafor is a definite upgrade over Tyson.[/quote]No he isn't. He MAY be the healthier out of the two, but they both have huge red flags. Back injuries are no joke, and they generally don't get better, and flare up at random times.
[quote=wang4three]Amare, Duncan, Jefferson, Nene aren't bigger than Okafor. They're each 6-10, 6-11ish and Okafor is as strong as any of them if not more so. I don't think he'll be exposed. He's a good defender, with good timing on blocks, and he's fairly athletic. He may not run the floor as well as Chandler, but he certainly makes it up with a decent post game and a fairly consistent 10 foot jump shot.[/quote]He's not stronger than those guys. His post game is also not decent. Okafor is a shot blocking Al Horford w/o the intagibles.
[QUOTE=Dasher]He's not stronger than those guys. His post game is also not decent. Okafor is a shot blocking Al Horford w/o the intagibles.[/QUOTE]
SMDH. Okafor is not stronger than Amare, Dirk, Gasol, and Al Jefferson. :oldlol:
[quote=Mr_Basketball#1]SMDH. Okafor is not stronger than Amare, Dirk, Gasol, and Al Jefferson. :oldlol:[/quote]Al Jefferson put 40 on Okafor without breaking a sweat. Amar'e's and Pau have underrated strength. The only cat I would say he is stronger than is Dirk, but we both know that he has absolutely no chance of stopping Dirk.
[QUOTE=Dasher]He's not stronger than those guys. His post game is also not decent. Okafor is a shot blocking Al Horford w/o the intagibles.[/QUOTE]
Okafor tested out the strongest of his draft class that included other guys like Kris Humphries (****ty player, but strong guy), Dwight Howard, and Al Jefferson. Granted Al and Dwight were high school kids, but he out performed them overwhelmingly. I doubt in the last 5 or so years Dwight and Jefferson were getting stronger while Okafor was not. So I would say that he's as strong as anybody in his range.
Okafor's post game is decent enough in my opinion. His footwork timing is off, but in comparison to Tyson Chandler, he looks like Hakeem out there. Not to mention he has like a 7-5 wing span and a 9-4 reach. I can't believe that it is a question that he won't be better out there than Tyson Chandler. The only thing I would worry about is his pick and roll game. I have not seen much of it since college, but he's a smart kid and I think he'll be able to pick it up.
A 21 year old man in UCONN's strength and conditioning program should test better than a couple of high school kid's, but when matched up against Dwight and Al now the strength advantage that the two of them have over him is obvious.
[QUOTE=Dasher]A 21 year old man in UCONN's strength and conditioning program should test better than a couple of high school kid's, but when matched up against Dwight and Al now the strength advantage that the two of them have over him is obvious.[/QUOTE]
That's under the assumption that Emeka didn't continually work on his strength.