NBA has suspended Gilbert Arenas indefinitely until investigation ends

Enough with people talking about the NBA "taking his money."

If his contract gets voided it's because he wasn't holding up his end of the bargain. He hasn't earned that money yet. He was going to get paid that money IF he did the things the contract laid out. It's NOT his!

some recent arenas twitter posts


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I am going green.no more fun for awhile. So here we go.. I landed in cleveland and its colder then the press heart.. [/QUOTE]
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I wanna say sorry if I pissed any body off by us havin fun...I'm sorry for anything u need to blame for for right now.. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]I know everybody seen the pre game pics..my teammate thought to break the tention we should do that..but this is gettn way to much[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=bdreason]If he had just said, "no comment", he'd still be playing and getting paid.

Gilberts mouth may have just cost him 80 million and his job.[/QUOTE]

Thats the bottomline. He forced Sterns hand here.

[QUOTE]You remember the phrase, [B][I]"you play too much"[/I][/B] when we were kids? That's Arenas.[/QUOTE]

Bingo!

[QUOTE=craiye]The difference between Isiah and Gilbert is pretty big. I agree that they should have suspended Isiah without pay for 30 days, but on the other hand he didn't rub Stern's face in it. Isiah didn't get on Twitter and ***** about how everyone was picking on him.

I mean, I'm sure if Isiah would have dry humped that broad during a televised game than they would have taken some more disciplinary action. That's pretty comparable to the reaction Arenas put on last night.[/QUOTE]

People think bringing an unloaded gun into the arena is worse than sexual harassment? WTF?????

At what point did Michael Vick realize that he was in deep sh!t, and realize that losing it all was possible?

Arenas has not gotten there yet.

If his teammates told him to do that gun fingers crap, they're just as dumb as he is.

[QUOTE=bagelred]People think bringing an unloaded gun into the arena is worse than sexual harassment? WTF?????[/QUOTE]
the NBA is already fighting a "gangsta" image problem, i don't see them having a sexual harassment image problem...

[QUOTE=bagelred]
How DARE you Gilbert....How DARE you......finger wagging.........give me a break. Punish the guy....make sure punishment fits the crime....let's be done with it....But a whole rest of season or more would be outrageous.[/QUOTE]

My sources tell me that David Stern and Gilbert Arenas had a meeting in Cleveland at "the Q". Many confirmed that Stern could be heard screaming in his office to Gilbert:

"Gilbert SCREWED Gilbert"

More to follow...

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[QUOTE=kkling]If his teammates told him to do that gun fingers crap, they're just as dumb as he is.[/QUOTE]
Or they just didn't care. I could be wrong, but I just couldn't see all this **** happening to a guy like Antwan Jamison.

[QUOTE=bagelred]People think bringing an unloaded gun into the arena is worse than sexual harassment? WTF?????[/QUOTE]
Did I say that? No. I wish Stern would have had some kind of disciplinary action for Isiah. Fact is, Arenas is much more of a rep for the NBA than IT was as the GM of the Knicks.

Stern is going to be more concerned about how someone like Arenas is affecting the NBAs image than how IT was simply because the NBA already has a perceived player image problem.

If Arenas would have just shut his mouth he'd still be playing and getting paid. He had to go and rub the commishes nose in it. Any idiot should know you don't mock the boss.

[quote=kkling]If his teammates told him to do that gun fingers crap, they're just as dumb as he is.[/quote]Or maybe they are just evil geniuses that realize they can get out from under his contract and be a better team. Mwahahah!!

Amen....I mocked my boss and got sent home. True ****ing story.

[QUOTE=vert48]Or maybe they are just evil geniuses that realize they can get out from under his contract and be a better team. Mwahahah!![/QUOTE]

Yeah, thought of that, I guess that's a possibility, I would hope that's not the case though.

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how the mighty fall. can't say he's as big of my favorite player as he was before.

could this potentially be a career ending incident for arenas?

And this is a reflection of the mentality of younger people in this country. As if "THE MAN" had it out for Arenas. Boo hoo hoo. They're just out to get him, and take HIS money. We're the victims of circumstance. These things are all out of Gil's hands, and everyone should just lighten up. Woeeee is him.



Are you guys serious?

I sometimes wonder if this board is all 15 year olds or people with no jobs. You cannot act this way in representation of a company. ANY of us would be fired if we brought a gun to work. Arenas brought FOUR guns to work. Then, when we all knew he was going to get hammered, he made fun of his boss (Stern) and mocked the fact he was not yet punished. When i was 5 and took cookies from the cookie jar i knew better than to make fun when caught.

To make this even work, he did this in a state with harsh gun laws, with a contract that personally forbids guns and a labor agreement that specifically says no guns.

I hate when people start with the "SEXUAL HARRASMENT IS WORSE, therefor he should be punished less, etc." First of all i don't think sexual harrasment is worse because as bad as it is it doesn't lead to a situation possibly with people dying. And secondly, if it is worse, THEN that situation should be punished more, not Arenas punished less. That logic is so backwards. People automatically want to change the topic.

He's a ****ing idiot. He not only commited a crime, but doesn't appear to understand his trouble increases every time he speaks.

Didn't Washington offer him 127 million, but he said no and took less. I'm not sure if that was a rumour or not..

[QUOTE=Kobe Jnr]Didn't Washington offer him 127 million, but he said no and took less. I'm not sure if that was a rumour or not..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]WASHINGTON -- Gilbert Arenas is accepting less money from the Washington Wizards, invoking an attitude far, far removed from the world of his working-class fans.

[B]"What can I do for my family with $127 million that I can't do with $111 million?" [/B]he told The Washington Post.

The unpredictable three-time All-Star point guard, in vintage Agent Zero fashion, told the Post and the Washington Times on Thursday that he has [B]agreed to re-sign for $111 million over six years, considerably less than the maximum deal he said the Wizards offered him when the free agency period began on Tuesday.[/B][/QUOTE]

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3473164[/url]

well at least some charity gets half of his salary for every game he misses

[QUOTE=niko]I sometimes wonder if this board is all 15 year olds or people with no jobs. [/QUOTE]



Yes. They are. Havent you seen the thread where people are saying their ages?

Sexual harassment is worse than bring unloaded pistols to work IMO. Taunt me with an unloaded pistol and you will get a laugh from me. What are you gonna do? Harass my sister in a sexual manner and you will get an ass beating. Two different situations.

Who could have possibly died when nobody had any bullets?

[QUOTE=thejumpa]Sexual harassment is worse than bring unloaded pistols to work IMO. Taunt me with an unloaded pistol and you will get a laugh from me. What are you gonna do? Harass my sister in a sexual manner and you will get an ass beating. Two different situations.

Who could have possibly died when nobody had any bullets?[/QUOTE]

Unless you're best friends with the boss, you're getting fired for bringing guns to any job.

Let alone pointing them at another co-worker.

And then making jokes about it to the media on top of all that.

It's all Gil's fault. Even his actions after wards twittering and the gun gestures. This whole story is so sad, we were expecting a renaissance from him this year.

He's probably going to serve some jail time then come back and sign with a team for minimum, similar to Vick.

[QUOTE=oh the horror]And this is a reflection of the mentality of younger people in this country. As if "THE MAN" had it out for Arenas. Boo hoo hoo. They're just out to get him, and take HIS money. We're the victims of circumstance. These things are all out of Gil's hands, and everyone should just lighten up. Woeeee is him.



Are you guys serious?[/QUOTE]
Sadly, yes they are.

[QUOTE=thejumpa]Sexual harassment is worse than bring unloaded pistols to work IMO. Taunt me with an unloaded pistol and you will get a laugh from me. What are you gonna do? Harass my sister in a sexual manner and you will get an ass beating. Two different situations.

Who could have possibly died when nobody had any bullets?[/QUOTE]

1) Someone could have taken the gun from his locker. Or stole it. It's guns lying in a locker.
2) Gilbert, who is insane, could have decided to go get bullets when one of his teammates pissed him off.
3) Teammate pissed at other person could have threated with gun.
4) Teammate could have brought his own gun in loaded when Arenas threatened him with a gun.

People have to get off this unloaded ****. It's easier to get bullets than guns. Are you all suburbanites or something? I can count at least 6-7 times in my life i've seen shots fired in anger, it's a bad idea just for anyone to have a gun concealed in public. Plus Arenas is at best a ****ing idiot and at worst insane. This man has 4 guns?

And for those of you who want to judge one wores than another, your opinion is irrelevent, one can get you fired and one can get you in jail so society has already deemed one worse than another.

[QUOTE=Soundwave]Unless you're best friends with the boss, you're getting fired for bringing guns to any job.

Let alone pointing them at another co-worker.

And then making jokes about it to the media on top of all that.[/QUOTE]

No ****. Where I used to work, sexual harassment was a good enough reason for getting fired, too. What's your point?

Do you know he pointed pistols at anyone? Or are you just going to believe everything the media says before the whole story is unveiled?

BTW....a couple people carried pistols at my job. They weren't stored anywhere, but a couple people had them there. It isn't the smartest thing to do, but don't assume that you would get fired JUST for having a gun.

So how long do you guys think his suspension is going to be?

[quote=thejumpa]BTW....a couple people carried pistols at my job. They weren't stored anywhere, but a couple people had them there. It isn't the smartest thing to do, but don't assume that you would get fired JUST for having a gun.[/quote]If your place of work has a strict, well known, no gun policy, yeah, you should assume you will get fired if you bring a gun.

[QUOTE=thejumpa]No ****. Where I used to work, sexual harassment was a good enough reason for getting fired, too. What's your point?

Do you know he pointed pistols at anyone? Or are you just going to believe everything the media says before the whole story is unveiled?

BTW....a couple people carried pistols at my job. They weren't stored anywhere, but a couple people had them there. It isn't the smartest thing to do, but don't assume that you would get fired JUST for having a gun.[/QUOTE]

yes, i would. i more than likely would have charges brought against me too. my friend is in sanitation. it says IN the city contracts no weapons at work. you'd be fired for a threatening looking knife.

if i did what arenas did, not only would i be fired, 100% i would have charges brought against me. i'd probably get taken to the police by security.

you people are nuts. you can't pull out guns, and say "hey they aren't loaded, it's ok" he committed THREE felonies at work. Maybe you are under the impression he's not in trouble here, he's going to get indicted any day now on THREE felonies.

:confusedshrug: you are out of your mind if you think this isn't serious.

Note: i don't think harrasment is a little thing. my initial point was people bring that **** up to change the topic. for some reason people think men who get paid millions to bounce a basketball should not lose that right even if they commit crimes, act like idiots, etc.

[QUOTE=SAKOTXA]So how long do you guys think his suspension is going to be?[/QUOTE]
Ever

[QUOTE=bokes15]Holy ****, I just read an article which said there is a possibility for the Wiz to void Arenas contract.[/QUOTE]
I hope this happens. He has disappointed all of us.

[QUOTE=Glide2keva]Ever[/QUOTE]

So this is basically like Chris Andersen's suspension?

[QUOTE=SAKOTXA]So how long do you guys think his suspension is going to be?[/QUOTE]
PRobably the rest of the season. As bad as the meeting might have been, Stern did actually meet with Arenas, which means he's not getting kicked out of the league. If Stern was just going to take an axe to his contract, why bother meeting?

[QUOTE=vert48]At what point did Michael Vick realize that he was in deep sh!t, and realize that losing it all was possible?

Arenas has not gotten there yet.[/QUOTE]

Some people learn the hard way. remember that famous song from the band 'Queen'? Easy come easy go, little high little low.

I won't feel sorry for Arenas. Not because I think he is a sinner, but because for some reason I feel basketball is not THAT important to him and he has way more money than most people do even if he will lose some of his contract money over this. And really, besides basketball games and money... this isn't about anything else from Arenas' point of view. He was stupid and now he is going to pay the price.

So be it, Jedi as the Emperor in Star Wars told Luke Skywalker. So be it, Gilbert. Said Stern.

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[QUOTE=niko]1) Someone could have taken the gun from his locker. Or stole it. It's guns lying in a locker.
2) Gilbert, who is insane, could have decided to go get bullets when one of his teammates pissed him off.
3) Teammate pissed at other person could have threated with gun.
4) Teammate could have brought his own gun in loaded when Arenas threatened him with a gun.
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Sexual harassment can't lead to jail time?

Supposedly, the locker was locked. Everything else you said could have happened whether guns were there or not. Also, both of us have NO idea who was threatened. Hell, we don't know if it happened at all.

BTW...I'm not from the suburbs. Gun play is nothing new to me. I agree with you that concealed pistols in public is never a good idea, though. Dude is a clown. That being said, if I were him (or any famous celebrity/athlete), I'd have a gun, too. 4? IDK about that...

Wow, **** you David Stern!

This is well deserved.

If any normal person brought four unloaded guns to work, and even in a joke put one on a co-worker's desk... we'd be sitting in jail, and would be headed to the unemployment office once we got out.

From a legal site
"Depending on what facts are discovered in other interviews with possible witnesses to the Dec. 21 locker room confrontation between Arenas and previously obscure guard Javaris Crittenton, the official said one likely outcome would be the following: Arenas, 27, would be permitted to plead guilty to charges of carrying a pistol without a license, a felony that carries a maximum of five years in prison. Such a charge would require a grand jury indictment, which could be acquired quickly since five grand juries are seated at any given time in the District. Any other charges -- which could include misdemeanor counts for possession of unregistered firearms, carrying maximum jail time of six months for each count -- would be dismissed. In exchange for Arenas' cooperation and guilty plea, the prosecutor would ask for no jail time."

"Given his prior offense, however, a judge might consider jail time in this case," one of the law enforcement officials said. "It all depends on which judge he draws." Arenas pleaded guilty to charges of failing to maintain proper registration of a firearm in California in 2003 while playing for the Golden State Warriors."

So it has potential of 5 to 6 years with a hardass judge (and he already has embarassed the city, etc.) or nothing IF he gets lucky and they ignore a prior charge also related to guns.

This is serious. If some of you don't think it's a big deal, your opinion is noted, but when a situation outside your control now threatens to put you in jail, it is probably serious.

[quote=SAKOTXA]So how long do you guys think his suspension is going to be?[/quote]He is gone for the season for certain, but the real question is whether or not he stays out of prison.

Plaxico was going to prison the second the story got out. New York's laws left no doubt about that. Does anyone have any knowledge about the laws in DC, and what is going to happen?